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    Here we go again ...fresh rebuild on the 500 hp

    Okay

    Many remember last year mt WIP thread on my 22

    I had had bought the boat which supposedly had a fresh rebuild on a 500 HP

    WELL

    I came ho,e and showered the boat with attention and detail which the thread was about

    when spring rolled around and we started to do some in water tuning etc all seemed to be well with one exception ..... it was using oil

    I had plans to attend the DUST OFF at lake George to meet the many fine people of this forum that so graciously helped me and not knowing the extent of the oil consumption the family and I went on our first big outing and made the trip to beautiful Lake George

    well all o can say is I loved the event and the great people but alas I had no idea how bad the consumption really was till I really ran the boat that first day and realized my fears were correct and my 502 was a two stroke drinking oil at an alarming rate

    even though the trip boat wise was a complete disappointment the wonderful people and the surroundings made the trip well worth while

    upon returning I realized the many trips I had planned and outings for the season were over

    plane and simple I had gotten beaten

    the guys that sold me the boat even though on that initial fall test run the boat ran strong had taken a pig and put lipstick on it and sold me a nice hull Great trailer but a tired badly rigged BLUE MOTOR

    AFTER ALL THE YEARS OF BOATS I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER

    but i I took them for face value and why would anyone pit high end parts all over a tired motor wrought with problems ?

    I went back back and shook what money I could from them

    the son is a good kid but the father a real scammer

    my engine builder who was my tenant for many years had retired and passed away and his protege with a new job and career change did not have the time or the shop to do me any good

    this left me in quandary

    I had access to some decent street builders but I really wanted a marine engine builder

    this is where Ken C jumped in and made the kind offer to introduce me to Price Turner

    Price is in Clayton NY and Ken was kind enough to meet me the day I went up to drop off the motor and show me his great place and his beautiful boat

    thanks Ken

    i left the basket case case of a Motor there at Price's and knowing that he was busy just told him to keep me updated

    as summer ended I told Price to take his time and a long as I had it by spring I would be pleased

    over the winter we spoke and Ken and as he tore it down the many problems and mysteries were revealed

    needless to say we started all over again

    we salvaged what what we could block , heads , Demon Carb , Imco exhaust etc

    a few weeks ago Prove said he was getting close

    I have a very busy schedule so it was hard to break away to go pick up the motor but we eventually coordinated a time and I offered to bring two of my own mechanics along with another of my buddies to help finish things off

    we we made the five hour trip up and spent the day with Price finishing things up and dropped it in late last night bolted it up and ran for the barn trying to get home before the oncoming rains came

    we didn't make it half way when it started dumping on us

    well I pulled in around 4 am and just got done cleaning it up and now all that is left to do is finish rigging and get it dialed in

    so hear we we go again

    keep your our fingers crossed for me

    I have full confidence in Price's build and I really enjoyed spending the day at his shop with him

    all in all I got beat on this boat but the wonderful people that it introduced me too made it all worth while

    i don't have any outings planned this season yet but I'm going to ease into it and get it dialed in and we shall see how the season goes



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    Back in the Garage waiting

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    and chance you can adjust your links?

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    JP - Thanks for the update. Glad your boat is back in one piece. Hope you have a good, long season.

    Ken C is one of the good guys!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 22classic View Post
    and chance you can adjust your links?

    Any tips

    this is the way ive always posted pics not sure why it's not working


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    Any tips

    this is the way ive always posted pics not sure why it's not working

    C'mon Joe, ask your kids!!!!!

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    Having issues

    I've done this hundreds of times

    not sure why I can't paste like normal

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    Okay

    Many remember last year my WIP thread on my 22

    I had had bought the boat which supposedly had a fresh rebuild on a 500 HP

    WELL

    I came home and showered the boat with attention and detail which the thread was about

    when spring rolled around and we started to do some in water tuning etc all seemed to be well with one exception ..... it was using oil

    I had plans to attend the DUST OFF at lake George to meet the many fine people of this forum that so graciously helped me and not knowing the extent of the oil consumption the family and I went on our first big outing and made the trip to beautiful Lake George

    well all I can say is I loved the event and the great people but alas I had no idea how bad the consumption really was till I really ran the boat that first day and realized my fears were correct and my 502 was a two stroke drinking oil at an alarming rate

    even though the trip boat wise was a complete disappointment the wonderful people and the surroundings made the trip well worth while

    upon returning I realized the many trips I had planned and outings for the season were over

    plane and simple I had gotten beaten

    the guys that sold me the boat even though on that initial fall test run the boat ran strong had taken a pig and put lipstick on it and sold me a nice hull, great trailer but a tired badly rigged BLUE MOTOR

    AFTER ALL THE YEARS OF BOATS I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER

    but i I took them for face value and why would anyone put high end parts all over a tired motor wrought with problems ?

    I went back back and shook what money I could from them

    the son is a good kid but the father a real scammer

    my engine builder who was my tenant for many years had retired and passed away and his protege with a new job and career change did not have the time or the shop to do me any good

    this left me in quandary

    I had access to some decent street builders but I really wanted a marine engine builder

    this is where Ken C jumped in and made the kind offer to introduce me to Price Turner

    Price is in Clayton NY and Ken was kind enough to meet me the day I went up to drop off the motor and show me his great place and his beautiful boat

    thanks Ken

    i left the basket case case of a Motor there at Price's and knowing that he was busy just told him to keep me updated

    as summer ended I told Price to take his time and a long as I had it by spring I would be pleased

    over the winter we spoke and Ken and as he tore it down the many problems and mysteries were revealed

    needless to say we started all over again

    we salvaged what what we could block , heads , Demon Carb , Imco exhaust etc

    a few weeks ago Prove said he was getting close

    I have a very busy schedule so it was hard to break away to go pick up the motor but we eventually coordinated a time and I offered to bring two of my own mechanics along with another of my buddies to help finish things off

    we we made the five hour trip up and spent the day with Price finishing things up and dropped it in late last night bolted it up and ran for the barn trying to get home before the oncoming rains came

    we didn't make it half way when it started dumping on us

    well I pulled in around 4 am and just got done cleaning it up and now all that is left to do is finish rigging and get it dialed in

    so hear we we go again

    keep your our fingers crossed for me

    I have full confidence in Price's build and I really enjoyed spending the day at his shop with him

    all in all I got beat on this boat but the wonderful people that it introduced me too made it all worth while

    i don't have any outings planned this season yet but I'm going to ease into it and get it dialed in and we shall see how the season goes



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    My my friends that helped

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    Price Turner


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    Home cleaned up ready for rest of rigging

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    Hi Joe!
    Glad you finally got it home!
    Say Hi! to your family.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gcarter View Post
    Hi Joe!
    Glad you finally got it home!
    Say Hi! to your family.

    Hey buddy

    ill I'll be calling you as soon as I get it running

    give our best to your lovely wife my friend

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    Don't forget to align the motor. You can get the tool off Ebay and you don't need the $300 stainless one either.

    Sorry to hear of your troubles. The good thing is, you know what you have now.

    Regards,
    Taz
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    Quote Originally Posted by txtaz View Post
    Don't forget to align the motor. You can get the tool off Ebay and you don't need the $300 stainless one either.

    Sorry to hear of your troubles. The good thing is, you know what you have now.

    Regards,
    Taz

    We stuck the tool in before we left Price's and we were good to go

    yes it is good to know exactly what we have

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    You might want to check that shiny new shifter. Mine had issues with the indents on the shifter shaft. There was no lubrication on the shaft and had some marring.

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    Taz
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    Good Luck with the Rebuild!

    Did you stick with the original Merc/Crane HP500 cam or change?
    Any upgrades/differences from a stock HP500 other than the carb and exhaust?
    Thank you, Patrick
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    Quote Originally Posted by txtaz View Post
    You might want to check that shiny new shifter. Mine had issues with the indents on the shifter shaft. There was no lubrication on the shaft and had some marring.

    ShifterShaft.jpg

    Taz

    Will do

    thanks for the heads up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat McPherson View Post
    Did you stick with the original Merc/Crane HP500 cam or change?
    Any upgrades/differences from a stock HP500 other than the carb and exhaust?

    We changed everything

    ill get a list from Price and post it up

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