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    It hasn't been mentioned in this thread, but a in previous thread, I mentioned Arnesons seem to work
    much better in stepped hulls that run flat anyway.
    That seems to be the controlling factor w/o a bunch of trick stuff.
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    I have been working with Rick at Arneson and he says that they have been used on classic 22's successfully. After he explained the engineering it makes sense to me that the system should work appropriately, have more speed, more reliability, less maintenance, and throw a big rooster tail!

    So, I picked up an arneson conversion kit! Here we go!

    I'll post photos and video as I progress.

    best,
    Matt P.

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    Sweet!
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    Nice! Make sure you post pics of the project and keep us updated. I'm very interested in the results.
    Why is faster never fast enough.

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    me too
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    Between this project and Woobs's restoration, and Yeller's new motor, it is going to be a great winter.

    Ken

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    One more project

    I have a friend that just bought a 22 for a project. He's signed up for the site and is awaiting approval and then he will post their project. They have had the boat for about two weeks and they already have it stripped down and the cap off the hull. They're moving very quickly. I've seen the pictures so far but I'll let him post them and what they are doing. This is the same guy that rebuilt my transom a while back. He does great work.

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    I wish you well Matt.
    It's not easy to make a hull handle differently
    than what it was designed for.
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    http://www.arneson-industries.com/pa...ravoConversion

    Have no idea of conversion cost, I think pricey. Kit looks awesome and appears to somewhat like an average install.

    Good luck with the install, 22 and keep us up to date.

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    There was one of these kits on eBay

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    here was a full kit, down to the power steering pump, not that long ago. I think he wanted 8K. It was a steal. If I find it I will post it.
    Quote Originally Posted by tmdog View Post
    http://www.arneson-industries.com/pa...ravoConversion

    Have no idea of conversion cost, I think pricey. Kit looks awesome and appears to somewhat like an average install.

    Good luck with the install, 22 and keep us up to date.
    I have far too many boats, just ask my Wife.
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    New the conversion runs $24,500.

    That comes with everything, including steering, lines, pumps, etc...

    Then you need to buy a prop, but they range all over in price. new used etc..

    -Matt

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    The first step was to adapt the Damper plate from a 454 to the 460 flywheel. I could have bought the 460 plate, but figured now is the time to make it easy to change plates if I want. There are high performance plates available for the 454 flywheel. So Ill keep my options open....

    I made this easy for anyone else with the schematic, maybe someone will search for it in the future.

    First step done!

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    Alright....the fun begins!
    I love it when other people spend money on projects. Makes me feel somewhat normal.

    Definitely going to follow this one.
    Why is faster never fast enough.

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    Yeller, we are the ones that are normal....(maybe).

    In all honesty, I was tired of dealing with drive issues and the wife was not having it.

    So we talked about a different boat, maybe something slow with a bathroom..... but SHE was the one that said we both like it, its the best looking boat in the field, we make it to the casino in 30 min, and at least it's different then everyone's ski boat, plus we look good in a boat with such good lines....So just fix the drive issue so we never have to fix it again, it has to be cheaper than buying a different boat or fixing it all the time.

    I have to agree with her that if you can fix it once that it is cheaper and better. I do spend a lot of time in rough water with the drive in the air and switching to an xr drive was going to run about 18ish and that doesn't include steering etc, etc... then I have been reading of lots of people still having trouble with xr's and gears breaking or clutch parts going out.

    if you think about the traditional outdrive design, the gears and clutches in the drive can only be so big, they must fit in the drive and the lower has to drag through the water. So bigger requires more power and more pressure....

    So the arneson it is!

    This might not be for everyone, but I think it should be fun and make for a more reliable, safer, faster boat.

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    First order of business is to straighten the bottom of the boat out. Grab a straight edge and tell us what you find.

    Jeff
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