18' Donzi vs 20' Cig vs 22' Donzi

[Greg Guimond]

Pat, if you are set on staying with I/O power AND want 22' or less you will be limited. Many, many options in O/B power but very few in I/O because of the room the car motor takes up. On the outboard side you can now get 5 years of warranty on both Mercury 300XS and ETEC 300 G1 motors. Perfect match for one of the boats I've assembled below to both ski with the kids and to eat up LI Sound when flying solo ..............

Nordic Crossfire 21 -1475lbs – 21’1” Long, 7’1” Beam
Bernico Extreme 21 -727lbs –21’4”Long, 6’3” Beam
Progression 22 - 948lbs –22’1”Long, 7’8” Beam
Chaudron Pro-S22 – 910lbs –22’2”Long, 6’2” Beam
Sutphen SSX21 - 1325lbs–20’9”Long, 7’2”Beam
Tuff 21 (kevlar hull) - 890lbs –20’8” Long, 7’7” Beam
Velocity V7 OB 21 (carbon hull) –682lbs – 21’5” Long, 6’11” Beam

If you REALLY are staying car motor, just find a clean Team Warlock 23 Offshore and prop it to ski and be done with it. I might know of a few out there.

[Pat McPherson]

Pat, if you are set on staying with I/O power AND want 22' or less you will be limited. Many, many options in O/B power but very few in I/O because of the room the car motor takes up. On the outboard side you can now get 5 years of warranty on both Mercury 300XS and ETEC 300 G1 motors. Perfect match for one of the boats I've assembled below to both ski with the kids and to eat up LI Sound when flying solo ..............

Nordic Crossfire 21 -1475lbs – 21’1” Long, 7’1” Beam
Bernico Extreme 21 -727lbs –21’4”Long, 6’3” Beam
Progression 22 - 948lbs –22’1”Long, 7’8” Beam
Chaudron Pro-S22 – 910lbs –22’2”Long, 6’2” Beam
Sutphen SSX21 - 1325lbs–20’9”Long, 7’2”Beam
Tuff 21 (kevlar hull) - 890lbs –20’8” Long, 7’7” Beam
Velocity V7 OB 21 (carbon hull) –682lbs – 21’5” Long, 6’11” Beam

If you REALLY are staying car motor, just find a clean Team Warlock 23 Offshore and prop it to ski and be done with it. I might know of a few out there.

Greg,
Nothing like the roar of a BBC, but you never know...
I've seen up close the Progression and Sutphen but not the others. This will make for good research during the winter months.
Thanks

[joseph m. hahnl]

This one seems dialed in pretty good. Carries the bow well. I wonder if this one has the pad that Matty mentioned

[mattyboy]

Joe yes that is the later 20 called the Son of a Gun the earlier 20s were round bottoms

[Pat McPherson]

I worked at River Landing Marina between the bridges on the CT River back in the summers of 85-87. Ocean Performance was located there and sold Cigarettes. I recall two 20ft sold during those years, 1 red, 1 yellow. I am not sure if they were the newer "son of a gun", both had small blocks and alpha drives. The owner of the red one had a supercharger installed a couple years later and it was a screamer...

[Greg Guimond]

Greg,
Nothing like the roar of a BBC, but you never know...
I've seen up close the Progression and Sutphen but not the others. This will make for good research during the winter months.
Thanks

Sure thing Pat.

I only know of one Superboat 21 East of the Mississippi with a car motor that is for sale. If you decide to run caged hamsters and can travel, a Hallett F2 V is for sale and is set up for family ski. It had a 300 on it and did high 80's. These are also 21' long and extremely well built. Prime in LA did all the rigging (I have used them before) has a reversible seat, ballast tank, all the extra stuff but .... you would need power and like yellow.

[mattyboy]

Just saw pics of the new tuff 24 nice

[Pat McPherson]

Sure thing Pat.

I only know of one Superboat 21 East of the Mississippi with a car motor that is for sale.

This boat has changed hands a lot and I almost bought it a few years back when it was for sale in Mass. I emailed with the current owner and he's put a lot of $$ in the package lately; new trailer, new interior, new short lower...

[Greg Guimond]

This boat has changed hands a lot and I almost bought it a few years back when it was for sale in Mass. I emailed with the current owner and he's put a lot of $$ in the package lately; new trailer, new interior, new short lower...

Yep......FYI, he will take $20,000 for it if the transaction is simple and quick.

[Pat McPherson]

Yep......FYI, he will take $20,000 for it if the transaction is simple and quick.

I wish I could own a fleet of more than just the 2 I've got...

[joseph m. hahnl]

There's a 20 on this group for $16K looks very nice







https://www.facebook.com/groups/2229...94347/?fref=nf





https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...36&oe=58B8E9A0

[chip w]

Pat, if you're going to do something call me or PM me about your boat.

[Pat McPherson]

Just saw pics of the new tuff 24 nice

I see on their web page 16, 21,and 28 ft but not the 24. Where are you seeing the 24?

A new boat is out of my price range but a 21 with a new LS motor would be really awesome!

[Greg Guimond]

I thought you wanted to get a smaller boat than your current 22 Classic? The Tuff 24 is under development. It's brand new with the first one just out of the mold (Matty's photo) and being set up for a 400. It'll easily be $100k. I was hoping that it would be a narrower 6' beam like some of the stuff being built in Europe, but it looks to be based on there 28, so will end up being a 7x24 I suspect like many other options. There 21 footer ran 107mph on multiple radar runs this Summer with a 300.

[Greg Guimond]

A new boat is out of my price range but a 21 with a new LS motor would be really awesome!

Nordic has been running a Merc 1150 in there 21 foot model that they would probably sell you as they are building up a new one with more power. The SR-21 does a lot of things well.