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Thread: 18' Donzi vs 20' Cig vs 22' Donzi

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattyboy View Post
    yes all are a tad different probably part of the 10% rule


    here are a few more pics of the black cig and a cig i was looking at buying guy wante da ton of cash for it and it was not worth it especially after it was washed off it's lift during Sandy and had the mahwah river running thru it
    Matty, I take it this boat is an early one?
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    An' doncha know black would be a great boat for here in the
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    George


    yes the black one is the first cig 19/20 built in late fall 71 and purchased from Don in early 72 the one that fell off the lift was several years ago and was a later boat

    the black was not all that bad in NY in Fla at totally different story the yellow seats didn't get hot
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    the before pics
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    Hard to believe it's the same boat.....

    Did the same guy own the 18 as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jl1962 View Post
    Hard to believe it's the same boat.....

    Did the same guy own the 18 as well?
    no that was from the storage rack at the marina when it was rescued the 18 wound up to be the cig's neighbor a few years later I think I have a pic of them side by side on their lifts
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    Black is Beautiful

    Quote Originally Posted by mattyboy View Post
    George


    yes the black one is the first cig 19/20 built in late fall 71 and purchased from Don in early 72 the one that fell off the lift was several years ago and was a later boat

    the black was not all that bad in NY in Fla at totally different story the yellow seats didn't get hot
    My 1989 24' Pantera was black on sides and bottom but had white decks. It also had black interior and as you can imagine was not the best during summer months. Rather than changing the interior we sold and bought our 24' Superboat.
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    Have you decided to focus on finding a Cigarette to replace your 22 ?
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    I would need to sell my boat first.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Guimond View Post
    Have you decided to focus on finding a Cigarette to replace your 22 ?
    Greg, I ran side by side with my old 75 18' Donzi during the CT River Run. That boat runs really strong with a 383 and new Volvo SX drive. I love the 18s.
    The two guys that were with me, were vary convincing that I should not go back. "You've been there and done that". Probably right...
    To answer your question, Yes, I would like a 20' Cig to be the replacement/next boat if and when my 22' Donzi sells.
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    Update on my thoughts.

    Had a few conversations with my wife over the weekend and she is vary much against going back to an 18' Donzi Classic...

    I have clearance to build a car/boat port off the side of our garage so whether the next boat is 20', 22', or is not as much of a concern...

    Changing boats is probably more about me wanting to have a different toy every few years. My last 3 boats have been named, "For Now"...

    I'm going to assume that our 22 Classic will be around for another year so I'm working my too due / too fix list...
    New cover- check
    New seat mounts- check
    New speedo and tach- check
    New trim tab switches- check
    New zincs- check
    New/recover seats- not required
    External steering- maybe spring of 2017

    Thanks for all the input Guys!
    Thank you, Patrick
    1994 18' Classic 350Mag Alpha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat McPherson View Post
    I have clearance to build a car/boat port off the side of our garage so whether the next boat is 20', 22', or is not as much of a concern...
    Good luck with the car port. Mine started out that way. I got the initial plans back from the architect on Friday to extend the garage. It looks like when it's done it will be 32' to 33' deep. Boat on one side, wife's car and 911 on the other side with an alcove off the side for the workbench/work area. Hope to break ground before the end of the year.

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    You never know...

    Quote Originally Posted by chip w View Post
    Good luck with the car port. Mine started out that way. I got the initial plans back from the architect on Friday to extend the garage. It looks like when it's done it will be 32' to 33' deep. Boat on one side, wife's car and 911 on the other side with an alcove off the side for the workbench/work area. Hope to break ground before the end of the year.
    Chip, I do plan to build an extension off the back of the garage one day but that will be for the tractor, snow blower, walk behind mower and other tools/toys to tack care of the yard. All that crap is in my side of the garage now so my car is out in the cold.
    The boat is just going under a port; not going to build another bay...Boat IMG_1417.jpg
    Thank you, Patrick
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    Pat you asked about a Superboat 21 as an alternative to the 22 Classic. I have had two 21's and they will not do as well in rough water as the Classic mostly because they are a pad bottom design. The 22 Classic with the round bottom and 24 degrees is more forgiving then the Superboat 21 with a pad and 22 degrees of deadrise. The 21's are also a little lighter. There are a lot of options out there now in the 22'-23' range but it depends on your needs.
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    Yes, I remember now

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Guimond View Post
    Pat you asked about a Superboat 21 as an alternative to the 22 Classic. I have had two 21's and they will not do as well in rough water as the Classic mostly because they are a pad bottom design. The 22 Classic with the round bottom and 24 degrees is more forgiving then the Superboat 21 with a pad and 22 degrees of deadrise. The 21's are also a little lighter. There are a lot of options out there now in the 22'-23' range but it depends on your needs.
    In my thinking behind the 21' Superboat option is to be able to add waterskiing to the list of activities. I do want to stay with an O/I though and not many 21' Superboats built that way...
    The boat I owned before my 22' Donzi was a 26' Velocity 280. That boat had the pad bottom and ran great in the rough but it is much larger boat. Not bin in a 22' Velocity but I've seen a couple of those in I/O...
    Top of my list, if/when my Donzi goes down the road is a 20' Cig, but those are like looking for a needle in a hey stack. When a nice one comes up for sale you have to be ready to jump and I tend to waiver...
    Thank you, Patrick
    1994 18' Classic 350Mag Alpha

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    1975 18' Classic, 350Chevy Volvo 280

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