18' Donzi vs 20' Cig vs 22' Donzi

[Rob M]

A few more of Ken's 19 - what a pretty boat!

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Love this boat. Where did it end up?

[LITTLE MAX]

Here are some photos of 20' Cig. (Lil Max) that was done by Phil Lip Ship back in 2006

[Carl C]

Pics altered to show bottoms. Why do almost all Cig 20s have giant k-planes when most agree that a 22 Classic needs minimal, if any, tabs?

[undertaker]

All this talk about CIG 20's and running with CIG 20's got me thinking......There use to be a cig 20 run in Oct if memory serves me correct and they would also invite the Donzi guys....is this still an event? I also loved running with the cig guys at AOTH and would love to do this event this yr if it still happens.....


Undertaker

[Greg Guimond]

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[Pat McPherson]

Thank you for all the replies and great pictures!
I too wish that I could increase my fleet to include both a Donzi Classic and a 20' Cig...

One question I also have is why large tabs on the 20' Cig but not 22' Donzi? I have the short K-Planes and have thought of swapping to the 280s but... I did notice when I load on the trailer on Sunday that I had a lot of port tab down. I would think it would take a lot less angle if I had 280s and that would be more effective / efficient... thought?

[Pat McPherson]

Sunday boat ride with whole crew... I think that's the 3rd time this year...

[roadtrip se]

You won't see the long tabs on the typical, Classic Cig.

The Extension box Blackhawk boats do better with the longer tabs due to the surface drive handling characteristics. The tabs give more control, keep the transom of the boat from sliding around as much with the turbulence, and effectively extend the length of the hull while keeping the nose down, as well.

The Blackhawk Donzis also respond to more tab than the typical 22 Classic. You can't effectively control the BH Donzi without them. You literally turn this boat with the tabs.

As for swapping out to bigger tabs on a Bravo Donzi, I wouldn't do it. Your just more likely to hook a tab at speed, and the boat shouldn't really need a lot of tab to start with.

[mattyboy]

This Cig 20 was on Lake Oakland a couple weeks ago. He said it runs 65 with a 454. It has a sharp keel. It was a busy day on the pond so we couldn't run hard at all.

Carl,
nice Cig,good looking boat but not a 20 it has a character line on the hull sides and the 20 never had a sharp keel only rounded or pad bottom from the factory looks like a 24

in all the pics I have it is hard to compare apples to apples as each one is a tad different only 2 of them are really stock. some had pads some didn't, If you look at the brown and white one you'll see that is setup not all too much different than a stock 22trs big block stock tabs if you look at the one next to it the red and black the X dim is so high it is working it's way back up thru the alphabet

[mattyboy]

Love this boat. Where did it end up?

a few years ago was purchased by someone in Florida on her way as she left the lake she spent her whole life on

[Greg Guimond]

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[Carl C]

Carl,
nice Cig,good looking boat but not a 20 it has a character line on the hull sides and the 20 never had a sharp keel only rounded or pad bottom from the factory looks like a 24

in all the pics I have it is hard to compare apples to apples as each one is a tad different only 2 of them are really stock. some had pads some didn't, If you look at the brown and white one you'll see that is setup not all too much different than a stock 22trs big block stock tabs if you look at the one next to it the red and black the X dim is so high it is working it's way back up thru the alphabet

I have since found out that it is a 24. Never knew there was a Cig 24!

[Morgan's Cloud]

I have since found out that it is a 24. Never knew there was a Cig 24!

Ghost , amongst a few others , will not be impressed with your lack of awareness.
If you didn't know there was a Cig 24 imagine what else is out there that you've never heard of !

[Carl C]

Ghost , amongst a few others , will not be impressed with your lack of awareness.
If you didn't know there was a Cig 24 imagine what else is out there that you've never heard of !

Quite a bit I'm sure!

[Carl C]

Ghost , amongst a few others , will not be impressed with your lack of awareness.
If you didn't know there was a Cig 24 imagine what else is out there that you've never heard of !

Did you know that the Cig 24 evolved into the Banana 24? And the Cig 20 was based on a Glastron? At least that's what I was told.