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    question on value of 93 Donzi 22 OMC King Cobra

    so.... I'm thinking of selling my Donzi 22. It's a 93 Chris Craft built OMC version with the King Cobra. It's only a couple hull numbers away from Dr. Dan's "famous" 22 and mine lived a sheltered life garage stored for most of it's 23 years with a brief interruption where it was stored in a covered boat house. ...history is somewhere on the board here. Canada boat then Florida now Texas.

    Engine was bought new by me and is a fairly fresh 502 Marine engine from 1800 Runsnew. It's got 2 seasons or so on it but no hour meter and just a stock motor with mild cam and Holley 780 carb with edelebrock intake. It has a closed cooling system on in from Monitor ...like what George Carter and alot of others around here have been using.

    All of the obsolete OMC stuff has been removed and replaced with off the shelf parts. The spitfire ignition was replaced with a DUI Marine distributor, shift interrupt from CDI (off the shelf) The impeller/water pump that was obsolete but I think may now be back in productions is now a crank mounted pump with standard off the shelf stuff. It all works great.

    It has the Shelby Pod and Livorsi Twin shift set up with Teal accents.

    It's still running the viper 21 prop that it came with and has crazy hole shot. It accelerates better than a friends built monster but he pulls away after about 70. Best GPS has been 71 but it is an honest 68 all day long boat with the prop on it now.

    Gel Coat is all original and in good shape but the center deck stripe needs to be polished each season. if I keep it I'll either re-gel the stripe, or put a vinyl stripe on it.

    The dash needs to be cleaned up to make it really nice but it's a pretty nice little boat.

    I know the OMC part makes it a unique boat and in many ways better than Mercruiser but might also effect sales price.

    It sounds like I just wrote and ad for the boat but really just wanted to get some input on a fair number for the boat.

    ...Has an aluminum tandem axle trailer from some company in Florida but can't remember the name right now.

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    I have found over the years that a 16 is worth $10k, an 18 is worth $15k, and a 22 is worth $20k. All of these are based on fairly standard boats that are in nice "turn key" shape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Guimond View Post
    I have found over the years that a 16 is worth $10k, an 18 is worth $15k, and a 22 is worth $20k. All of these are based on fairly standard boats that are in nice "turn key" shape.
    IMHO, your 30-40% low..
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    We would all love to think our boats are worth more. Much more. Even more so as we love the brand, the history, the style, the hull design and yes, the Donzi name. But those that are not brand die-hards (i.e. most of the market) don't see them that way.

    Greg's numbers are ballpark give or take regional differences and condition modifiers.
    Around here, I regularly see 16's between $7 - 9,000 to as high as $15,000. I sold my '82 18 for $12,500 and was right on the money (although I've seen people asking "Muskoka" money for them too...). I have also watched a few 22s go between $20,000 and $24,000 over the past few years but that doesn't stop someone from listing their gold plated Donzi 22 at $35,000+.

    Just be realistic. It is a nice, well kept 23 year old boat. In the market, I think it takes a wee hit due to the OMC no matter what the die-hards say. I'm sure you have a number in mind that your "happy" with... One you are "over the moon" thrilled to get and an "I'll take" number too. Balance those with your sales ability and your buyer and you're golden. If you're wrong (too high) it just takes longer to sell and you may need to adjust your thinking...too low and you'll have a line up to buy.... but, nobody's forcing you to sell.

    Good luck!
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    I want it to be more!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gcarter View Post
    I want it to be more!
    George, I think your boat qualifies for "more"... it's top of the range
    Not your average "survivor" 22....
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    My old boat

    Still looking good!!!!

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    machinist ,bore it deeper,ream it bigger, and lap it to a fine finish



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    Quote Originally Posted by gcarter View Post
    I want it to be more!
    Mr. Carter, your boat is a one of a kind in so many ways that it is certainly worth $40,000. With your boat the issue is ...... you simply can't buy another one like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BUIZILLA View Post
    IMHO, your 30-40% low..
    I'd like to agree but I doubt it. The 22 Classic is an even tougher one to figure. It has a lot of competition at the same size unlike the 16, and 18. Below are two examples of 10 year "newer" 24 degree boats of the same size. The Progression runs 90mph & the Intimidator runs 96mph. Speeds are GPS, both boats are mint, and the prices are asking. You can also buy a 70mph Team Warlock 23 Offshore for $15k if you prefer I/O power.

    2006 22' Progression, Marine machine steering, Yamaha 300 hpdi fresh Hydrotec Phase 3 motor 13 hours on it, Fat shaft sho lower, 2006 aluminum load rite trailer, $34k

    2003 21’ Red Intimidator, Merc 300x with 15 hours (10 hours) 15” mid custom built, external steering, race hatch and full canvas, Galvanized single axle trailer, mint, $30k
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    I think there is a good bit of range, based on age and condition. Even for "turn-key" boats. Down near Greg's numbers and slightly below, and up in Jim's. Woobs's ranges reflect that.

    Also think the other brands Greg is listing are only sort-of competition for the potential Classic buyer's dollar. Some guys are looking for speed in any package, so maybe. But I think a lot of real Donzi shoppers would not be that interested in those other sorts of makes. So, comparing prices there may not mean a whole lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Guimond View Post
    I have found over the years that a 16 is worth $10k, an 18 is worth $15k, and a 22 is worth $20k. All of these are based on fairly standard boats that are in nice "turn key" shape.
    I would BUY every SWEET 16 in Excellent shape for $10K ALL DAY LONG! You can't find them.

    Speaking from experience. I SOLD a SWEET 16 2 years ago. Keep in mind they don't make these anymore and what the price was back when they did was NOT CHEAP. If it's a TRUE DONZI meaning the Hull# starts with DNA and in excellent shape based on the one I sold which you can view in my aviator.

    A Excellent SWEET 16 - I got $19,500 for mine. 1st guy that looked at it bought it with CASH that day.

    A Excellent Classic 18 - Just had this one end on EBay tonight (2/19/2016) $23,600.00 I didn't sell it I wanted $25,000.00
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/291682919376...84.m1562.l2649

    A Excellent 22 such as yours I would guess low $28,000.00 - $30,000.00

    Price out a HORNET 17 which a copy cat of a DONZI. I just priced one out last night and they want $48K. I dn't see them selling many. JMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by DONZI-DON View Post
    I would BUY every SWEET 16 in Excellent shape for $10K ALL DAY LONG! You can't find them.
    Really? There are a dozen Sweet 16's out there in different areas of the country in excellent shape right now for $10-$11k.
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    Again, I think there's range in age and condition. What's "excellent?" Is it a 1990+ boat that's been trailer kept? Very different from a 70s boat that might have lived in the water for years and might need a gas tank anytime. The latter might be polished and gorgeous, with all systems working. But a very different prospect for the buyer than a 20-year old or newer boat that's never lived off a trailer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayZ View Post
    I'm thinking of selling my Donzi 22. It's a 93 Chris Craft built OMC version with the King Cobra.
    I'm no expert when it comes to locating clean boats so maybe you list it for $30,000 as DONZI DON says on both Ebay and here .......... and see how you do. GLWS
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