There was no point. I was just adding non 1964 junk just like you had in the post before me. One reason the '64 builds have never gotten wrestled to the ground is because there are always ad hoc distractions that take focus away. Matty, I know that you have a lot of true interest in this stuff so I'm going to give you a pass on your earlier comment. Just one pass though, thank you
Now back to the matter at hand. John Crouse was actually Don Aronow's PR Guy. When Sal M died, John was chosen to guard the treasure trove of race boat pictures Sal had taken. John, I believe, contracted alzheimers and before he passed away he chose a very well regarded individual to store the photos. Yes, I know who that is, but there is no sense in disclosing it because there will be no chance to review the collection which is in the 1,000's.
The thread with Frank C in it has zero to add btw other than Frank's comment about the green 1964. What is important is that there are very, very few people still alive who can add clarity to the first boats built in 1964. Knocky House's wife passed away last month for example. Frank C though is alive, and as you know far better than me he was deeply involved in Donzi for many years. He also holds a very unique connection to Don Aronow because Aronow created all his wealth initially as a residential home builder in New Jersey. Frank Civitano's father knew Don A personally as his Dad was also a builder in New Jersey at the same time. Some folks thought that Don A's murder was in some way connected to the New Jersey mob and Don's spectacular success as a builder. That was quickly shown to be false. He left New Jersey very quickly but totally square with the mob. I hold a useless connection to Don as I bought my first 16 in Sheepshead Bay where he was raised. He also (along with Doc Magoon) consulted on the rebuild of The Mule so that is why I decided to get in on the car motor '64 builds and set the record as straight as possible. Btw Doc Magoon gave the eulogy at Aronow's funeral so there is another guy you can talk to.
Frank Civitano Jr is probably 70'ish now and evidently has been a life long resident of southern New Jersey and a life long performance boating guy. In addition to his Pop's Grumble Green 16 he probably has a BUNCH of gems hidden away in his brain on '64 Donzi stuff. One thing for sure is he'll remember what drive was on the back. For the record, I personally believe 100% that what he comments on below is totally accurate. One big reason I believe it (well there actually is two) is that the heir to the Kleenex Tissue fortune, Jim Kimberly, was a guy who was in love with the color green. He was also a great friend of Don Aronow's in addition to being a skilled womanizer like Don.
I can easily see him saying ....... "Don, make one of those little guys Green just like my Hornet" with a Remy in one hand and a stacked blonde on the other.