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    The one you bought is a GM permanent magnet starter, it does not use field coils.

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    So, I ordered a high torque mini starter in addition to the one pictured in post #19.
    I now have them both, and instead of the permanent magnet starter pictured in #19,
    I now seem to have 2 high torque minis from 2 different sources.
    Below is a picture of them both, the stickers proclaiming they are each marine starters.
    I bought a shim kit from NAPA, and do my best to make this all work.
    I definately like the size and weight.



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    George,
    I think you will like having the torque of the mini starter even if it turns the motor over a little slower which I believe they do.

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    I think George is probably more pissed that he has to mix more paint and make the new one as nice as the old one. Glad it worked out...looking good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Pearson View Post
    I think George is probably more pissed that he has to mix more paint and make the new one as nice as the old one. Glad it worked out...looking good!
    George's world is rosey as in red. Paint something? That is what George dreams about..Ed

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    I actually need to paint a few things, so I'll use the black painted piece to paint and use, and the other as a spare.
    George Carter
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    George looking at the photo of the starter that you removed it to me is pretty obvious it was not grounded, notice how nice the mating surfaces on the new starter are shiny bare metal yours are painted. $50 says your old starter is just fine!
    No matter what your beliefs are "GOD BLESS AMERICA"

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOP View Post
    George looking at the photo of the starter that you removed it to me is pretty obvious it was not grounded, notice how nice the mating surfaces on the new starter are shiny bare metal yours are painted. $50 says your old starter is just fine!
    Phil, what you're saying is true as far as it goes, but it grounds through the bolt holes (which are bare metal) and bolts. Remember they are knurled to keep everything centered and have lots of contact area.
    George Carter
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    So the same fate does not befall any others that read this, it is well known the GM starters do not always ground properly through the bolts. The mating surfaces must be clean and paint free, the only proper grounding is through the starter to block contact not the bolts. All the articles below indicate that! It is such a bioch to swap a starter it pays to follow the basic rules of installation.

    https://www.motorstate.com/images/In...ni_Starter.pdf

    http://www.pozziracing.com/camaro_electrical.htm

    http://www.powermastermotorsports.co..._GMMiniSta.pdf

    http://www.onallcylinders.com/2012/0...rter-problems/
    No matter what your beliefs are "GOD BLESS AMERICA"

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