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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Guimond View Post
    Not until I get a measurement on how many inches your TW 23's Bravo prop shaft is below the keel
    I might get a chance to check that out today, but I don't think the drive will go down far enough on the trailer before hitting the skeg.. By the way, I got the cloth samples from Bill Sturgis to compare.

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Guimond View Post
    Here is another example to spread the discussion beyond just Donzi's. This is a 1989 Hallett 240 Closed Bow. It is 100% stock and maintained with an open checkbook to like new condition including being kept inside a climate controlled garage by the owner. Has the proven 365hp 454 Magnum and B1 drive. Hallett has an outstanding reputation for build quality and the 240 is a tried and true hull design. It's a big 24 footer with an 8'4" beam. Closed Bow 240's are also hard to find as most were open bows. In addition, the gel colors are current for a 25 year old boat and the trailer is mint. The owner wants $30,000. If someone could finance the purchase it would be gone in a week but because you have to write a check for $30,000 who knows how long it will take. If you bought this boat new it would be over $100,000 with a non-blue motor.
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    Or maybe you are more inclined to have a lake boat with an OB. This 1984 Hondo 18' OB is far better than new and a show winner. No book of the month club option so the guy has been sitting on it asking $15,000. This boat is 30 years old and has 30 hours of use. The upgrades done are pretty intense and of course expensive. It also has the rear facing jumper seats so it can seat 7. The asking price is $15,000 but what will it end up selling for?

    Judged one of twenty best boats at the 2013 Needles Custom Car Show, 1984 Hondo "T-Deck" Pantera Outboard with 1984 Mercury 200HP Black Max engine. Boat and engine have approximately 30 hours of use. Hull is a custom layup with seven gel-coat colors , and gel-coated filled seam. The hull also features a reinforced (2 1/2 inches thick) transom, drivers foot operated recessed cavitation plates, drop thru turn fin, Mercury electric/hydraulic engine trim with control switches on steering wheel, stringer mounted custom gas peddle with adjustable throttle stop, stringer mounted custom instrument console with tach and engine trim gages, ignition switch, fuel tank selection lever and forward, neutral and reverse leaver, Interior Specialties back to back bucket and rear bench seats all color coordinated, two 10 gallon polished stainless steel Russell fuel tanks, all teflon stainless braided fuel, hydraulic, and bilge lines with polished SS reusable hose ends, custom heavy duty 6061-T6 polished and anodized aluminum engine bracket, all polished stainless fasteners used through boat and trailer, all aluminum is polished and black anodized 6061-T6. Hull rides on a gunmetal metallic gray custom Ellis trailer which features chrome fenders and floater bar, custom aluminum wheels, 4 new tires as of 2/2013, and a removable trailer tongue (for short garages). Custom pin striping and lettering by Steve Stanford. Boat is located in Tarzana, Ca. and ready to go. $15,000.00 (This boat/engine/trailer could not be purchased new today for twice the asking price) MUST SEE
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    Or maybe you like a wacker on the backer like me, but want an offshore deep v hull like a 22 Classic. If so, then this 1996 Superboat 24' would be a great fit and there are not a lot of them out there. It's not a Warlock but these Superboats are true 24 degree dead rise hulls with deep freeboard and a small cabin. This boat is in mint condition and turnkey ready to go with a 2011 Mercury 300XS OB and mint trailer. The Opti XS motors get incredible gas mileage while still pushing the boat to 75mph on GPS.

    The price? Asking $24,900 but no "book of the month club" option so who knows what it will end up selling at
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    Nice rig!
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    Thumbs up This is my next rig

    Quote Originally Posted by duckhunter View Post
    Nice rig!

    I want one just like this

    Only $12.5 ? Id look good "On Golden Pond"
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    Quote Originally Posted by duckhunter View Post
    Nice rig!
    I had a 24 for a bit and liked it. A lot of eastern seabord people like the Superboat 24 because of the true cabin and wave crushing 24 degree V we all love and the narrow seven foot beam. It's also nice to be able to run for a 10 hour day with the family on $100 worth of gas with the Optimax 300. That said, the 300XS motor alone is $18,500 new, yet the owner can't get $25,000 for the whole darn rig and might accept $20k I suspect.
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    Now maybe someone wants "newer" as Bert had mentioned. You don't need to spend even close to $100,000. Here is a 2009 Sutphen 21 SSX OB with a 2009 Mercury 225 Optimax. This boat is in "as new" condition, freshwater use only, and turn key ready to go with several options. This is Richie Jr's new 21 design. The Sutphens have 40 years of boat building experience and a ton of racing wins. This particular 21' boat with the little fishin motor runs 72.8 on GPS. What would this hull do with a 300XS? Calculations say about 88mph. The exact same boat with a stock 525 Mercury blue race motor clocked 93.4mph on radar. Not bad for a round bottom, non pad hull design like a Donzi 22 Classic. Give Jeff a call and pay him $30,500 and go boating. The exact same boat is also for sale with a 377 Merc B1 package right now. That hull is a 2011.
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    How about a "new" 16 footer like our 16s? No problem.......you can buy the brand new Tuff 16 with a Mercury 60hp EFI 4 stroke and do 61mph. Huh? Yes that is correct, a 60hp 4 stroke race motor on a 16 foot hull from Canada. 60hp for 61mph. That is technology at work when I think of Buizilla's Donzi 16 doing the exact same 61mph with TWICE the horsepower. Somewhere over the rainbow .......

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjiYTz19oRY#t=27
    1972 16 OB - C16B-63 - "Surface Tension" Resto Project
    1974 16 OB - DMR16106017-B - "The Mule"

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    While we are kicking our dreams around!

    If I had the coin this would be hanging behind the house. I too have a 22c that I would like to sell but fear the scrutiny will be way overwhelming with $25k invested 6 years ago I don’t have a clue where to start for an asking price.

    http://www.campbellboatowners.org/b-her_queenship.html

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    Am I seeing the price correctly at $55,000?
    1972 16 OB - C16B-63 - "Surface Tension" Resto Project
    1974 16 OB - DMR16106017-B - "The Mule"

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    Yes!

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Guimond View Post
    Am I seeing the price correctly at $55,000?
    Yes that boat has been on the market for years and started out at $69k it was a $150k restore. That is a lot of boat and a exelent quality restoration for the money.

    Not to mention its one of 3 and only 2 are left from what I have researched. It may be the only all glass one made too.

    Here is a 28 too.

    http://www.campbellboatowners.org/b-the_plug.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXDONZI View Post
    Yes that boat has been on the market for years and started out at $69k it was a $150k restore. That is a lot of boat and a exelent quality restoration for the money.

    Not to mention its one of 3 and only 2 are left from what I have researched. It may be the only all glass one made too.

    Here is a 28 too.

    http://www.campbellboatowners.org/b-the_plug.html
    woobs needs to buy that thing lol
    1972 16 OB - C16B-63 - "Surface Tension" Resto Project
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Guimond View Post
    woobs needs to buy that thing lol
    Not exactly my "cup of tea"...
    Now, how about $6,000 for this project including it's deck?

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    Sean Conroy,
    1964 Formula Jr. (hull #2) project

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    1981 Kavalk Mistral project

    "A man can accomplish anything... as long as he doesn't care who gets the credit."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Guimond View Post
    Here is another example to spread the discussion beyond just Donzi's. This is a 1989 Hallett 240 Closed Bow. It is 100% stock and maintained with an open checkbook to like new condition including being kept inside a climate controlled garage by the owner. Has the proven 365hp 454 Magnum and B1 drive. Hallett has an outstanding reputation for build quality and the 240 is a tried and true hull design. It's a big 24 footer with an 8'4" beam. Closed Bow 240's are also hard to find as most were open bows. In addition, the gel colors are current for a 25 year old boat and the trailer is mint. The owner wants $30,000. If someone could finance the purchase it would be gone in a week but because you have to write a check for $30,000 who knows how long it will take. If you bought this boat new it would be over $100,000 with a non-blue motor.
    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Guimond View Post
    Or maybe you are more inclined to have a lake boat with an OB. This 1984 Hondo 18' OB is far better than new and a show winner. No book of the month club option so the guy has been sitting on it asking $15,000. This boat is 30 years old and has 30 hours of use. The upgrades done are pretty intense and of course expensive. It also has the rear facing jumper seats so it can seat 7. The asking price is $15,000 but what will it end up selling for?

    Judged one of twenty best boats at the 2013 Needles Custom Car Show, 1984 Hondo "T-Deck" Pantera Outboard with 1984 Mercury 200HP Black Max engine. Boat and engine have approximately 30 hours of use. Hull is a custom layup with seven gel-coat colors , and gel-coated filled seam. The hull also features a reinforced (2 1/2 inches thick) transom, drivers foot operated recessed cavitation plates, drop thru turn fin, Mercury electric/hydraulic engine trim with control switches on steering wheel, stringer mounted custom gas peddle with adjustable throttle stop, stringer mounted custom instrument console with tach and engine trim gages, ignition switch, fuel tank selection lever and forward, neutral and reverse leaver, Interior Specialties back to back bucket and rear bench seats all color coordinated, two 10 gallon polished stainless steel Russell fuel tanks, all teflon stainless braided fuel, hydraulic, and bilge lines with polished SS reusable hose ends, custom heavy duty 6061-T6 polished and anodized aluminum engine bracket, all polished stainless fasteners used through boat and trailer, all aluminum is polished and black anodized 6061-T6. Hull rides on a gunmetal metallic gray custom Ellis trailer which features chrome fenders and floater bar, custom aluminum wheels, 4 new tires as of 2/2013, and a removable trailer tongue (for short garages). Custom pin striping and lettering by Steve Stanford. Boat is located in Tarzana, Ca. and ready to go. $15,000.00 (This boat/engine/trailer could not be purchased new today for twice the asking price) MUST SEE

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Guimond View Post
    .Or maybe you like a wacker on the backer like me, but want an offshore deep v hull like a 22 Classic. If so, then this 1996 Superboat 24' OB 300XS would be a great fit and there are not a lot of them out there. It's not a Warlock but these Superboats are true 24 degree dead rise hulls with deep freeboard and a small cabin. This boat is in mint condition and turnkey ready to go with a 2011 Mercury 300XS OB and mint trailer. The Opti XS motors get incredible gas mileage while still pushing the boat to 75mph on GPS. The price? Asking $24,900 but no "book of the month club" option so who knows what it will end up selling at
    The three boats above are great used performance boat deals but sooner or later, any discussion on good performance boat values ends up at a Warlock's doorstep. This 1995 Ultimate Warlock 210 LXI Open Bow is the first small hi performance hull to be fitted with a Duramax Diesel. That must have been expensive just for the motor you say? You would be correct, but none of that "investment" really matters now as you can buy the entire mint condition rig and go 77mph for $30,000. And I'm not blowin any ............. smoke

    Just give Ken a call, he's had the boat for sale for over a year now with no takers at $30k. No monthly coupons though, only a bag full of benjamins!


    1995 Ultimate Warlock 210 LXI – 650hp 6.6L Duramax Diesel - Over $60,000 Invested

    Your viewing the first boat documented to be rigged with a modern GM Duramax diesel engine. In 2007 California base diesel performance specialists Pacific Performance Engineering “PPE” combined a pristine condition 21ft Warlock open bow hull, with a 2005 LLY Duramax modified to produce 650hp and 1300ft lbs of torque. The boat was fitted with custom fabricated 4” stainless steel thru hull exhaust, marine sea water pump, marine oil coolers, and a custom built water to air charge cooler. All electrical components like wiring harness, fuse blocks, and engine monitoring systems were specifically designed and fabricated to fit this engine setup.
    Once the engine was ready, an out-drive with proper gearing capable of handling the Duramax power was needed. They equipped this boat with a brand new Mercury Marine Bravo1 XR stern drive unit featuring a 1.26:1 gear ratio. By mid 2007 the boat was completed and used for performance testing and advertising by PPE. In November 2007 the boat was featured in Diesel Power magazine, article available online here:
    http://www.dieselpowermag.com/featur...sel_speedboat/

    I purchased this boat in late 2009 with about 50 hours on it. During the first summer of ownership an oil system restriction was discovered, the engine was removed and disassembled for inspection. At that time we decided to do a complete overhaul, updating it with the latest in Duramax performance parts. A complete list of upgrades is shown below. Since the overhaul the boat has performed flawlessly. It's been used exclusively on lakes and rivers from Florida to Canada. It's also been used for promoting Biodiesel fuel and is recognized as the worlds fastest Biodiesel powered boat. A video of this record setting run, along with several others of the boat are available here.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvd-w7lk1Eo

    The performance of this boat is unmatched by any production boats of this size. Beside running 80+ mph, the fuel mileage is incredible. Depending on chosen power settings, average mileage is between 5mpg and 7.5mpg. With an 85 gallon fuel tank, range exceeds 350 miles. Due to the sheer cost and difficulty of this boats build, today it remains one of only a few custom Duramax powered boats that I'm aware of. So it's highly unlikely you'll see another like it anywhere. To build another today would still cost over $50,000 in parts alone.
    Powerplant - 2005 6.6L Duramax Diesel 650hp / 1250lbs torque. 150 hours since complete rebuild.


    • Block - +.30 Bore, New Cam Bushings
    • Crankshaft - .20/.20 Heat Treated with Clevite H Series Bearings
    • Pistons – Mahle 16.5:1 CR Polished Bowl, Valve Reliefs, Graphite Coated Skirts
    • Rods- Polished Beam, New Wrist-pin Bushings
    • Camshaft – Keyed Stock Grind
    • High Volume Oil Pump
    • Oversized Piston Oilers
    • ARP Head Studs
    • PPE High Flow Exhaust Manifolds with Stainless Up-Pipes
    • PPE Water Cooled Stainless Steel T-4 Pedestal
    • PPE / Inconel Marine Heat Shields
    • Turbo - GT4094R Ball Bearing Water Cooled
    • 4” Turbo Velocity Stack
    • Intake - Custom 3” Y-pipe
    • CP3 – Modified Pump with Oversized Inlet and Rail Fittings
    • PPE Race Fuel Valve
    • Injectors – Extrude Honed + 50% Oversize
    • PPE 190lph Lift Pump
    • Charge Cooler – Custom Aluminum Water Over Air
    • PPE Internal Oil Cooler Delete
    • Remote Oil Cooler and HP6 Filter Mount
    • PPE Marine Billet Flywheel
    • Engine Controls – EFIlive Custom Tunes, DSP5 Driver Selectable, DT Mixture Controller
    • Engine and Turbo Powder Coated Metallic Blue



    Drive - 2007 Bravo 1 XR 1.26:1 Ratio with 240 hours


    • IMCO Prop Shaft Upgrade
    • Drive Shower
    • Custom Built Lab Finished 15” Dia by 35” Pitch 5 Blade Prop
    • Custom Built Lab Finished 15 1/4” Dia by 37” Pitch 5 Blade Prop


    Electronics


    • Autometer Marine Analog Gauges
    • 2 PPE J-Bus Engine Monitor Displays
    • Dakota Digital GPS Speed Sender
    • Hawkeye Digital Depth Gauge
    • Sony Stereo w Sirius Adapter
    • Dual Optima Marine Batteries
    • Power Hatch Lift
    • New Bilge Blower 2013
    • New Bilge Pump 2011


    Also included with this auction is a 2007 Pacific trailer with hydraulic surge brakes, original LXI sun shade, custom bow cover and a full waterproof boat cover. Besides a few marks on the rub rails from normal use, this boat is in excellent shape inside and out, much better condition than most boats it's age. We are only selling this because we just purchased a larger boat to be fitted with twin Duramax engines. I encourage anyone seriously interested to contact me with any questions. If your close come go for a ride, it was on the water earlier today. Contact Ken @ 740-603-0725 with any questions.
    1972 16 OB - C16B-63 - "Surface Tension" Resto Project
    1974 16 OB - DMR16106017-B - "The Mule"

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    Smoke 'em if you got 'em .......................1995 Ultimate Warlock 21' LXI Duramax Diesel. 77mph, $30,000 and downright cheap to run Why couldn't he have installed that Duramax in an Offshore 23.
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