Originally Posted by
Carl C
If it was a mistake then he should come back on here and apologize because his "mistake" caused other's to attack me. He has 28 posts in 6 years and saw a need to call me a liar. You'd better get your facts straight before doing that. I expressed my true feelings of disgust after seeing the tears starting in my new seat. Now let's please not start with another one of your epic debates unless you can offer some constructive info on what might be going on with my seat. Thank you.
EXACTLY what facts don't I have straight? My whole post was to straighten out that which is known versus not known, and the difference in calling someone a 'liar' when they have said something they know to be false (an actual lie) versus when they have said something that they believe to be true but is not (a mistake).
As for a mistake causing others to attack you, the WHOLE THREAD is a set of responses to you claiming that DD and PPI did shoddy work, which REMAINS unproved. Everyone one in the pool is here because you made a claim which STILL isn't known to be true, in an accusing manner that was unfair to DD and PPI. The whole thread is a function of you not having YOUR facts straight, nor being civil and fair in addressing a MYSTERY.
I don't have a dog in the fight about your cushion's issue. I DO have an interest in the mystery. And I'm trying to lift out of the sewer parts of the discussion that are in the sewer. What's amazing is how civil and sensible so many people have actually been.
I repeat, please go back to my prior post where you claim I had "better get my facts straight" and quote it, listing the facts that I don't have straight.
EDIT: here, I'll make it easy. I'll put the quote up for you so you don't even have to go back to the prior page.
Originally Posted by
Ghost
Carl, this may sound like an affront but it is only intended an honest question asked with a reason, to try to promote tempered civility on the board. Do you understand a lie to be something a person knows is untrue but says is true anyway? Whereas, when a person believes something is true and says it, but it actually isn't true, that's a mistake but not a lie?
I ask as I don't see any firm evidence that HS did anything but make a mistake (if he even did that). It simply looks like he may have confused Greg G's statements with yours.
Now, for comparison, right off the bat you, in an outraged tone, blamed PPI and DD for delivering shoddy work when it is not known (not even yet) that they did any such thing. And a good deal of evidence suggests they did not do it, just as much as any evidence they did. You called HS a liar rather than saying he was incorrect about something (if he was even wrong, I don't claim to know but it appears likely that you can't know either). You also said posts could not be edited without a note below them appearing from the system, as proof HS is a liar. Are these lies, or mistakes on your part? By your standard for HS they are lies. Will you thus call yourself out as a serial liar, or alternatively, apologize to HS for calling him one? Seems like it should be one or the other, FWIW.
And again, I say this with friendly intent, because the distinction between being wrong and lying is important to understand or civility doesn't stand a chance in a place like this.
"I don't have time to get into it, but he went through a lot." -Pulp Fiction