critter on craigslist

[seano]

https://buffalo.craigslist.org/boa/4514604988.html

[Conquistador_del_mar]

Sweet! TRS drive?

[ted z]

OK, I have a '95 18 with a mpi motor in it and hear a lot about a SS/TRS drive.Somebody want to school me on this?

[Greg Guimond]

Was the TRS drive considered a stronger optional race upgrade?

That Critter looks to be a home run for someone although I prefer the model with the hidden front rumble seat. $15,000 seems to be very reasonable for a mint example. Should be gone in days if it ever stops raining.

[Greg Guimond]

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The ad for the archives................... $15,000

[bertsboat]

it sold last night. Guy was 83 years old. Boat was mint I was told.
someone got a good deal there.

[Conquistador_del_mar]

it sold last night. Guy was 83 years old. Boat was mint I was told.
someone got a good deal there.

Agreed - that was a real deal for the buyer!

[gcarter]

I know little about TRS drives. They are stronger, larger, heavier, and TRS uppers (or something very similar) are the basis for many of the Merc numbered drives.....and, of course, they have a transmission.

[Greg Guimond]

I know little about TRS drives. They are stronger, larger, heavier, and TRS uppers (or something very similar) are the basis for many of the Merc numbered drives.....and, of course, they have a transmission.

Interesting George that the TRS bloodline leads to things like the Merc #6. Also from the picture of the Critter (someone got a smoking deal) it looks like the gear case on the TRS has the pointy hydrodynamic cone possibly with low water inlets.

[Conquistador_del_mar]

Here are the TRS drives off my 36' Cigarette after installing the Hydromotive nose cones. I think Bob's Machine made some that are a little more pointed looking. I'm just not sure what drive the Criterion had on it, but it sure looks to be a TRS - maybe the new owner will post here.

[gcarter]

Interesting George that the TRS bloodline leads to things like the Merc #6. Also from the picture of the Critter (someone got a smoking deal) it looks like the gear case on the TRS has the pointy hydrodynamic cone possibly with low water inlets.

Greg, the TRS is a VERY simple device. Not only does it use a separate transmission, but no water flows through it and it uses a transom pickup.
No water probably means it should have a shower for cooling.

[Greg Guimond]

Greg, the TRS is a VERY simple device. Not only does it use a separate transmission, but no water flows through it and it uses a transom pickup.
No water probably means it should have a shower for cooling.

Very interesting. So if you had a TRS drive you had to have a transom, or an "in hull" water pickup? A transom pickup seems to somewhat defeat the purpose of having a nose coned gear case. Then again, I have to put into perspective the years we are talking about in general.

[Greg Guimond]

Here are the TRS drives off my 36' Cigarette after installing the Hydromotive nose cones. I think Bob's Machine made some that are a little more pointed looking. I'm just not sure what drive the Criterion had on it, but it sure looks to be a TRS - maybe the new owner will post here.

Today I tracked down a 1989 Team Warlock 23 Offshore with a TRS drive. I have NEVER seen a 23 with a TRS. The owner says that the drive was 100% installed by the factory in 1989. Original spec order. Very interesting (to just me) considering that the Alpha faded out in 1987 with the Bravo taking front place in 1988.

Why would Stolarz have installed a TRS drive (with tranny) on a 1989 23 Offshore build? Cliff Clavin ..... better get on the case

[gcarter]

Very interesting. So if you had a TRS drive you had to have a transom, or an "in hull" water pickup? A transom pickup seems to somewhat defeat the purpose of having a nose coned gear case. Then again, I have to put into perspective the years we are talking about in general.

Greg, the nose cone is only to improve hydrodynamics of the drive, not a water source.
My Bravo drive, 1987....the first year made, has an add on nose cone. Again, to improve drive performance as that first year was pretty poor. If you look at a current Bravo compared to an early one, there're huge differences.

[Greg Guimond]

Yes, I gotcha George.

My point, (no pun intended) was that you have a coned pointy TRS factory drive to add hydrodynamic benefit, but then you loose some of that benefit by mounting a transom water pickup that creates some drag. When is the new owner going to post up his barn find