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    Warlock - The "Euro" Series

    There are so many up for sale I decided to start there own thread. Team Warlock started it all with there 24 Euro and later a 25. Then, Ultimate Warlock built the 25, 28, and a 29 Euro. Then Warlock built a 32.
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    Here is a 1988 Team Warlock 24 Euro. The 24's are different bottoms and have a 25 degree dead rise straight V. This particular boat has had several price drops and now the owner is asking ........ $12,900
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    The 24 Euro's ran from 1988 when Team Warlock designed and tooled the original molds, up to 1998 when Ultimate Warlock built the last 24 Euro's using those molds. I have never seen one later than 1998. They all are very narrow 6'8" beam, 25 degree bottom wave crushers. I don't believe there are any small hi-po boats with a 25 degree dead rise V. The rounded "look" was very progressive design for the late '80s.

    Here are five examples - 1998 Ultimate Warlock Open Bow, 1998 Ultimate Warlock Closed Bow, 1990 Team Warlock (repowered - new 496HO), 1989 Team Warlock (airborne), 1989 Team Warlock (370TRS HiPo, for sale)
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    Here is a 1995 Ultimate 25' Euro open bow for sale. This one is interesting because it has an open bow but does not have any jumper seats in the middle, just a flat floor. Another dealer who has no idea what they are selling as they call it a MCOB. This tells me the open bow would have been a conversion done at a later date. These hulls are narrow 7' beams, with 24 degree bottoms. This one with a 7.4MPI 330hp is priced at ............ $20,000
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    And here are a couple of other 25' Euro's. At one point they tested a Team Warlock 25 with a 502 Magnum (415hp) and a Blackhawk drive back in late 1994 and it did 76mph on radar. I would think a 502 Magnum Bravo would just tickle 70. The 1994 for sale below for $21,500 would have been laid up by Team Warlock and Stolarz, 1995 and beyond built by Carter Reed. A lot of the 1995 boats you will see labeled as Ultimate Custom Boats or just Ultimate instead of Ultimate Warlock. After resolving a legal dispute, in 1996 Carter Read used the first "Ultimate Warlock" branding and logo.
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    Now onward to the 28 Euro.

    Here is a really clean 1996 that is for sale in Texas. I have only seen two of these 28's ever for sale. This one is a legit Ultimate Warlock and for a '96 has a very current color scheme. On the block for ..... $22,500
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Guimond View Post
    The 24's are different bottoms and have a 25 degree dead rise straight V.
    Greg, what did you mean by this? Are they different than the other Warlock styles, or different compared to the other Euros? Did any Euro ever get a stepped hull or pad?
    Why is faster never fast enough.

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    Next in line is the 29' Euro. Here's a 1996 Ultimate Warlock 29 for sale that they're calling a 27. A narrow beam 27 was never made. Dealers, you gotta love 'em. Wrong HIN too. For sale with big power for ..... $28,000
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Guimond View Post
    Next in line is the 29' Euro. Here's a 1996 Ultimate Warlock 29 for sale that they're calling a 27. A narrow beam 27 was never made. Dealers, you gotta love 'em. Wrong HIN too. For sale with big power for ..... $28,000
    A nice price drop on this mislabeled 1996 Ultimate Warlock 29 Euro with a big Pfaff 540. This hull measures 29'10" LOA. It started at $28,000 ...... now marked down to $22,800
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    A new listing for a 1989 Team Warlock 24 Euro ............ $13,000
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Guimond View Post
    A nice price drop on this mislabeled 1996 Ultimate Warlock 29 Euro with a big Pfaff 540. This hull measures 29'10" LOA. It started at $28,000 ...... now marked down to $22,800
    One month later and another price drop for this original gelcoat 1996 Ultimate Warlock 29' Euro. They might want to correctly represent it as a 29.

    Actually three price drops. $28,000 ...... $22,800 ..... $19,000
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeller View Post
    Greg, what did you mean by this? Are they different than the other Warlock styles, or different compared to the other Euros? Did any Euro ever get a stepped hull or pad?
    Well yeller, there are a few permutations here.........

    The first "Euro" was designed by Tom Stolarz, successful racer and founder of Team Warlock based in Corona, Southern Cal. He designed and then built the legendary "23 Offshore" initially in very early 1987, then in 1988 introduced the "24 Euro" model. He had been messing around with various designs from 1985 according to Jim Allen who I ran down a year or so ago. The 23 and 24 were both a part of the companies World Class model line-up of super narrow beam V hulls from Team Warlock but the 24 Euro's (contrary to many opinions) have a somewhat different bottom than the 23 Offshore, including a 25 degree dead rise. The Stolarz built 24 Euro's ended in 1995 although the molds survived and the same model was built on occasion by a different company through 1998 as requested. The word is that (8) 24 Euro's were built in 1998 with the absolute last one out of the mold actually being a full walk through open bow model with a Merc Blue 500 bulldog race motor. No steps, no pad, 25 degree V, narrow beam from 1989 through 1998. The brochure below says the beam is 7 foot, but that is not true, it is 6'8" at the widest point, but who's counting.

    Sometime during his ownership period, Tom Stolarz must have decided to tool a 25' Euro and Dan Kirby, glass legend in SoCal (also ran a 200mph Corvette) who had joined Tom to run the Team Warlock glass shop operation, laid up a few 1994 hulls which had under bow facing jumper seats and a true 7' beam.

    Then, at some point in 1995 Carter Read worked out a what I believe was a somewhat messy deal to buy Team Warlock from Stolarz. Stolarz evidently was getting more into his WPM steering systems business. Carter Read took Tom's 1994 25 Euro design and molds and built a few Ultimate 25 Euro's in 1995 only. Interestingly when you run across an Ultimate, they carry a HIN of UTC. In 1996 the name was legally changed to Ultimate Warlock and the bottom on the 25 Euro was tweaked including dropping the dead rise to 24 degrees and gaining a more useful under bow small bed as Carter Read raised the deck a little bit while maintaining the narrow beam and overall Euro look. Still no steps, no pad and a 7' beam on these Ultimate Warlock 25 Euro's from 1996 on.

    Early 1996, Read introduces the Ultimate Warlock 28 Euro (29' LOA) of which I have only seen two, same bottom as the 25 in all respects, just more running surface. Then, in late 1996 the 29 Euro which is 30' LOA. Both these boats - no step, no pad, narrow 7' beam, 24 degree V. My opinion only is that both the 28 Euro and 29 Euro were probably based on the Team Warlock 28 Offshore hull which is also a narrow beam 24 degree. Probably an identical bottom with the completely different Euro deck and transom steps. The 28 Euro that's for sale above is very rare and has a B3 drive but the puny BBC engine which is too bad. That thing is a great value at $20k if it at least had a 454Mag with the B3. Instead it has the 310hp carb 454 and tops out at 53mph

    Not until the Warlock 32 Euro was introduced yeller (the model was kind of an oddball) did they switch to use the step and pad bottom design specifically for a Euro. The 32 Euro is a very different boat though including a wide beam.

    Now the -flat deck square transom- Ultimate Warlock's (renamed simply as "World Class" models by Read) started using the step and pad bottom design in late 1996. The first boat was the 29 built to race APBA. From there the 27 in 1998 and then the 25 in 2000. All of these kicked butt on the race circuit. The 25 foot World Class' bottom was tweaked a bit by Reed based on all the race success the 29 and 27 had and with its serpentine step, pad bottom 25 degree V it has clocked 78mph on radar with a 496HO and stock Bravo drive without low water pickup. Fast, efficient boats. Unfortunately, these Carter Read "World Class" models in 25, 27, and 29 were never offered as a Euro.

    Sorry for the soap box, but in for a penny in for a pound. Both Tom Stolarz and Carter Read are still living in Southern Cal today.
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    As I mentioned, the 32 Euro's used a completely different bottom than the race proven 29 and 27 World Class narrow beam hulls. The 32's have two steps not one, and the pad is completely different.

    Here is a 2006 Warlock 32 Euro with twin 496HO's for sale .............. $100,000

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    IMO the best overall choice in the Euro series is the 25 built by Carter Read and Ultimate Warlock starting in 1995. Actually, 1996 and later would be better as the HIN matches the Ultimate Warlock brand label and holds its value better. The extra length gives the hull great symmetry, the UTC's have a little faster 24 degree bottom, and with a slightly higher deck it makes the bed and jumper seats under the bow more family useful.

    These specific boats are hard to find though and really tough to find with subdued gel coat colors. I actually think the boat would look great in all white like the 25 Euro pictured below. The transom steps just fade away with low key graphics. An understated, family friendly, 7' beam wave crusher that'll do 70 with a 454Mag.
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