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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Guimond View Post
    I can give you the Arko info Bill. When you say you tried to contact Warlock, do you mean you tried to call Team Warlock's Tom Stolarz directly in SoCal?
    I could not get a good working number for any of the ARKO dealers, and although Warlock has a phone number listed it is also kaput. I was trying to get with someone about the gray yacht cloth. Too hard to find a match online even though I tried that a month or so ago.

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    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
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    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
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    Bill, both Team Warlock (Tom Stolarz) and Ultimate Warlock (Carter Reed) which then legally became Warlock after they settled with Johnny West of Ultra are no longer in business. Carter's number was dusted in 2009 and Carter does not matter in your context as he knows nothing about the Team Warlock 23 Offshore hulls other than they beat the piss out of bigger boats. Both of these guys however, are still out and about in SoCal.

    Arko does not have any "dealers" so not following you there. They are mostly a direct to boat manufacturer high end shop. They are more on the vintage side, old codgers with 40 years of experience and connections along with a backlog, whereas Sturgis is more on the latest technology and technique side with space age stuff and a backlog. All four are living peeps and can be found It always depends on what you're after.
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    Okay, I was using my iPad at work to find the numbers and it led me wrong with none of the phone numbers working? - I just used google on my Mac. Apparently, Bill Sturgis works at ARKO Upholstery in Lake Havasu City, AZ - correct? I would like to get some of the cloth if it is still available and worry about the actual upholstery work this winter.

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    Bill Sturgis actually owns Arko and yes they now only have the one location in LHC as they are stepping back a bit. Send an email to Venna Sturgis with a couple of high quality pictures and a description.
    Ol Bill "don't do tech" and these guys are always busy btw. If Venna doesn't help with the yacht cloth let me know and I'll give you Bill's cell. Good Luck.

    From: Venna Sturgis <lakehavasugma@gmail.com>
    Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 07:50:50
    To: Greg
    Subject: Re: Open Bow Conversion

    Bill would have no problem doing this job for you. Thank you, Venna
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Guimond View Post
    Bill Sturgis actually owns Arko and yes they now only have the one location in LHC as they are stepping back a bit. Send an email to Venna Sturgis with a couple of high quality pictures and a description.
    Ol Bill "don't do tech" and these guys are always busy btw. If Venna doesn't help with the yacht cloth let me know and I'll give you Bill's cell. Good Luck.

    From: Venna Sturgis <lakehavasugma@gmail.com>
    Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 07:50:50
    To: Greg
    Subject: Re: Open Bow Conversion

    Bill would have no problem doing this job for you. Thank you, Venna
    Thanks Greg. I just sent an email and I will probably call them later.

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Guimond View Post
    Bill Sturgis actually owns Arko and yes they now only have the one location in LHC as they are stepping back a bit. Send an email to Venna Sturgis with a couple of high quality pictures and a description.
    Ol Bill "don't do tech" and these guys are always busy btw. If Venna doesn't help with the yacht cloth let me know and I'll give you Bill's cell. Good Luck.

    From: Venna Sturgis <lakehavasugma@gmail.com>
    Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 07:50:50
    To: Greg
    Subject: Re: Open Bow Conversion

    Bill would have no problem doing this job for you. Thank you, Venna
    Venna wrote me back that Bill is not computer savvy so she gave me the same phone number I ended up finding through Google. I just got off the phone with him and he is going to send me a sample of that gray yacht cloth - he knew exactly what I was talking about -

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Guimond View Post
    When I test my 23 pitch Rev4 prop again I'm going to see if it produces the same lean to the left that you experienced. I don't remember clearly.
    The weather was stellar today so I logged 225 miles on the Team Warlock. We had friends in from LA so I gave them the full tour. I had the Rev 4 23 on for 10 hours in a wide variety of conditions. It turns out I do have the same lean to the left. Not major but it is present and requires a little tab to fix. The prop is a very good all around fit but I'm going to be trying an OFX-4 next in a smaller 20" pitch, down from the 22" I slung the blade on. Should be interesting.

    Ended the day with dropping a friend from Westport at the Yankee's floating dock on the Harlem River. It was a much faster ride for him by water than I-95 South. It did however, present a small challenge, but we figured it out.
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    1974 16 OB - DMR16106017-B - "The Mule"

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    there's a Warlock for sale out there for 25g with a Duramax diesel...
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    It's a small Lake Edition 21' not an Offshore. He's a top shelf diesel guy and has done a few.
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    coulda swore it was a 25'

    99% positive
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conquistador_del_mar View Post
    Venna wrote me back that Bill is not computer savvy so she gave me the same phone number I ended up finding through Google. I just got off the phone with him and he is going to send me a sample of that gray yacht cloth - he knew exactly what I was talking about -
    They are a wealth of old school knowledge there. Glad it seems to be working out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Guimond View Post
    The weather was stellar today so I logged 225 miles on the Team Warlock. We had friends in from LA so I gave them the full tour. I had the Rev 4 23 on for 10 hours in a wide variety of conditions. It turns out I do have the same lean to the left. Not major but it is present and requires a little tab to fix. The prop is a very good all around fit but I'm going to be trying an OFX-4 next in a smaller 20" pitch, down from the 22" I slung the blade on. Should be interesting.

    Ended the day with dropping a friend from Westport at the Yankee's floating dock on the Harlem River. It was a much faster ride for him by water than I-95 South. It did however, present a small challenge, but we figured it out.
    It sounds like the Rev 4 works fairly well for you. That is an outrageously long trip you took!!
    This week I noticed how high the k planes are mounted on the transom - meaning they are set at a very high angle off the transom. Even though it seems like I am lowering the port tab quite a bit by the indicator, there is a lot of angle it has to travel before it would even contact the water. I sure wish the 28' had the same tabs mounted in the same location .

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Guimond View Post
    They are a wealth of old school knowledge there. Glad it seems to be working out.
    Bill called me today while I was on the cell phone with the guy buying my 36' Cigarette to let me know he had sent the fabric samples in today's mail. If he weren't so far away, I would let him do the upholstery job but it is not logistically logical.

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conquistador_del_mar View Post
    This week I noticed how high the k planes are mounted on the transom - meaning they are set at a very high angle off the transom. Even though it seems like I am lowering the port tab quite a bit by the indicator, there is a lot of angle it has to travel before it would even contact the water. I sure wish the 28' had the same tabs mounted in the same location
    I'm looking at your transom photo and not sure I follow. Are you saying that at dead level the trim tabs are not plum with the hulls running surface? From the picture below it almost looks like the planes are 1" or more ABOVE the hull but I can't really tell what's going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BUIZILLA View Post
    coulda swore it was a 25' 99% positive
    210 LXi .........
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