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Thread: 1990 Team Warlock 23 Offshore - The Survivor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave911 View Post
    Congrats. Some boat. That white one in Temecula CA is about 50 miles from my house. After seeing yours, I'm really tempted to go for a look-see. I'll be needing a boat for Austin TX - where I'm heading wth the family soon. Anyway - enough about me. Congrats again. Use her in good health. Dave
    Dave, I think you will be surprised at the quality of build and ride. I hope you don't plan to boat at Lake Travis since it is so low. If you ever want, make the 4 hour drive up here to Lake Texoma and I can take you out or we can meet and boat together.

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conquistador_del_mar View Post
    I took some more pictures as I was leaving this evening. Have you ever seen a trim pump like this one? It appears to be polished or anodized aluminum, but I still can't read the name at the bottom. One of the pictures shows the ss Hardin water pump and another shows the true colors.
    I've never seen that trim pump. Maybe get a piece of etching paper and use a pencil to take an imprint like kids do on memorials to see what the lettering says. The interior is original. It should have "Team Warlock World Class Boats" stitched in. They used a very unique fabric that is almost burlap like. The foot rests were also standard issue. They used round stock so that the passenger can wedge there feet under the bar to help from getting thrown out of the boat. Team Warlock loved carpeting, it was standard to carpet the engine bay. I've always wondered where they hid the second secret HIN on these boats. If you find it as you work over the boat please let me know. It looks like you also have an optional snap down carpet over the floor carpeting as well as heavy duty Wind-Aways. The SS windshield stanchion became standard with the later build years whereas you do not have the hatch cover SS surround. There might be small tell tale holes in the deck cap that would say if it was there at one point. Keith may have deleted it when he ordered the boat if the holes aren't there.

    There were rumors that the stringers were wrapped in carbon fiber which I could never substantiate. The Divinycell core option with AME4000 resin was expensive, I believe about a $4,600 up charge back in 1990. These hulls have the deck fully glassed to the hull. The hull is stiff yet still very light. I believe that the 23 hull with the core option weighed in at 1350lbs. Compare that to a 1,000lb Donzi 16 hull! The gel colors used are definitely a special order one-off. In fact upon closer inspection it looks like there is not much fade involved? There would not have been an upcharge for this but you won't ever see another one with those colors. You also have some things that may have been incorporated into later builds. The fore to aft storage slot next to both bucket seats and then continuing forward under the deck where the white cushion is wedged in your photo is one. Perhaps they closed it by the buckets creating an open bin where things could not roll backwards into the gunnel area and get lost. That hinged upholstered hatch all the way at the bow snout is another.

    Pay attention to the gas tank. They used two fabricators back then. One very good and one not so good from what I've learned. A low pressure test might be in order for peace of mind at 80mph. The rub rail material was known to have problems over time. I'm not sure but maybe they shrank over the years which caused it create a gap crack. I'm sure if Mr. Carter sees this thread he would have a few suggestions as to what epoxy you could mix up to properly create a matching profile and then fill any gaps for a short term solution.

    Now on performance, I will be very interested to see if the drives propshaft centerline is 4 1/4" below the keel. This would be my guess. The other thing is what you'll find when you run that Bravo's sn# to see what it comes back with. Your boat may have been built early enough in 1990 that Tom Stolarz used a leftover 1989 Bravo One. The 1989's had a slightly smaller bullet than the 1990 and beyond so if you have a 1989 that will help with speed. I don't see 85mph on GPS but I do see a legit 80. These hulls are fast even with the true 24 degree pointy V. Several of them ran SBC power making about 400 ponies and were competitive with slightly larger BBC powered boats. Curious what props Keith gave you, size will be telling. Those expensive monster K planes are needed on these 23'6' hulls with there very narrow 6'6" beam. What is interesting is the size they seem to be. What model are they? How long? If I'm not mistaken you could sell those alone tomorrow for $1,500. The standard issue was Bennet dual ram shorties.

    As to the motor, I don't know chit about car motors so I'll be going to school as you and other forum members figure out what 'cha got there Bill. The mill certainly looks impressive in the pic.

    That's all for now ............
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    Greg, thank you for all the thoughts. According to the fuel gauge, the tank is a little over 1/2 full or should be 30+ gallons which I will likely burn elsewhere as per Keith's suggestion even though he added Stabil, but there is no detectable fuel leak at this point. I'll try to get a name off the trim pump which really looks trick and works, too. The trim tabs and indicators also work perfectly. My mechanic friend told me yesterday that the Bravo appeared to be a longer lower typical of a newer drive, but Keith did not tell me the drive had ever been replaced. I'm guessing it is a 1990 instead of the 1989 which would account for the difference. Yes, Warlock is stitched into the gray cloth material. I'll get around to making some drive depth measurements. By the way, I believe I measured the centerline at 23' 4".

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    Great boat Bill! A good friend of mine had a 23' years ago and its a very predictable solid boat. (with a stock 385hp merc) and fast. Can't wait to hear how yours performs.
    Congrats
    - M
    1978 Magnum Starfire "MAYHEM"
    1994 Donzi 22 Classic 540/Blackhawk - Sold
    1982 Midnight Express 32 SS

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    Thanks Marshall. This one originally had the 365Mag/Bravo package, but the original owner changed to a nicely built 525HP. I have only had one boat that could run over 85MPH - the Eliminator. It won't be long before I can take it out and report on its performance. It sure is in awesome condition especially considering it is 24 years old.

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    A few more pictures I took this afternoon while checking it out.
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    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    Wow. How about an engine shot?
    1978 Magnum Starfire "MAYHEM"
    1994 Donzi 22 Classic 540/Blackhawk - Sold
    1982 Midnight Express 32 SS

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDonziM View Post
    Wow. How about an engine shot?
    There you go Marshall. It just dawned on me that this Warlock is the newest model boat that I have and it it 24 years old -

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    I look forward to firing the engine soon. After checking it out more, it has a nice oil cooler with the thermostatically controlled valve and what appears to be an 8 qt pan. Keith told me the Bravo coupler is new when he had the new engine built and installed. Onwards.

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    The engine looks nice Bill, I wish my Donzi had valve cover breathers like those, mine push out oil at high rpm. I wonder why he ran the wire harness connector where it is? What is the cylinder looking thing mounted just above the rev limiter?

    Thanks - Marshall
    1978 Magnum Starfire "MAYHEM"
    1994 Donzi 22 Classic 540/Blackhawk - Sold
    1982 Midnight Express 32 SS

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDonziM View Post
    The engine looks nice Bill, I wish my Donzi had valve cover breathers like those, mine push out oil at high rpm. I wonder why he ran the wire harness connector where it is? What is the cylinder looking thing mounted just above the rev limiter?

    Thanks - Marshall
    The cylinder above the rev limiter is the drive fluid reservoir.

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDonziM View Post
    I wonder why he ran the wire harness connector where it is?
    I saw that too. Horrible workmanship! In that engine pic you can also see how the interior is starting to break down. That boat is junk Bill! Junk I'm tellin' ya!

    I'll help you out though. Even in its poor condition, I think I might be able to make 50 - 60 bucks profit on it up here.
    So....just out of the goodness of my heart........I'll take it off your hands.......AND give you everything you've spent on it so far!


    Wow! I can't believe how generous I am.

    Why is faster never fast enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeller View Post
    I saw that too. Horrible workmanship! In that engine pic you can also see how the interior is starting to break down. That boat is junk Bill! Junk I'm tellin' ya!

    I'll help you out though. Even in its poor condition, I think I might be able to make 50 - 60 bucks profit on it up here.
    So....just out of the goodness of my heart........I'll take it off your hands.......AND give you everything you've spent on it so far!


    Wow! I can't believe how generous I am.

    Now that is exactly what friends do to each other (I mean for each other).
    One of the riggers at Derebery Marine next door to my business saw the Warlock and commented on how nicely the engine wiring was done. He is also the one who noticed the thermostatically controlled oil cooler under the port side of the engine.

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    I left the charger on the batteries this afternoon and plan to fire the engine on the hose tomorrow to check everything out

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    I pumped about 25 gallons of fuel from the Warlock into my Chevy dually, added 2 cans of Seafoam and pumped 27 gallons of premium into the boat. It fired up and ran perfectly with no glitches! The only gauge that did not seem to work was the water pressure gauge. The exhaust has a really nice rumble due to the silencer tips. It is ready for a test run.

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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