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    1990 Team Warlock 23 Offshore - The Survivor

    Ok Bill, that boat must have arrived by now. Spill the beans and post 'em when you got 'em. Remember I'm next in line when you decide to sell it.
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    Greg,
    If you ever need another prop or something else from me, it will be my treat for turning me on to this Warlock. I just finished toweling off the rain and am about to leave the house with it hooked up. Thanks again!!

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    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
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    and to think, at our age all it takes is a good boat deal for a happy ending.. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by BUIZILLA View Post
    and to think, at our age all it takes is a good boat deal for a happy ending.. LOL
    Yes, Jim. Doesn't take much now

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conquistador_del_mar View Post
    I could not be any more pleased with the boat!! Unfortunately, it started raining within 10 minutes of arriving. The driver told me it did not rain all the way here from Vegas. The pictures will probably show how immaculate the boat is if you can see past the raindrops, and the engine is unbelievable! Greg, it is a cored hull as you guessed!! I almost didn't have to crawl up front after knocking on the hull and hearing the solid sides, but I did. Some of the surprises are the new looking K-planes with trim indicators on the dash, high quality parts on the engine, new MSD system with the 6M box, Teague valve covers, trick trim pump, polished IMCO Powerflow exhaust system, new Gaffrig gauges and bezels, Gaffrig water pressure and oil temp gauges, depth sounder, very nice upholstery which does not really need work in my book. The gelcoat even looks wonderful. The only thing I am almost sure I will replace is the rubrail since the vinyl appears to have shrunk and broke in a few places. Yeller, I was going to report the negatives, but it is not possible - I'll be hooking up and taking it to storage in a few minutes.
    Now this one will be very interesting to watch unfold.......

    Although it is a bit tough to tell from the photo what colors are used, I am fairly confident that the gelcoat would have been a custom order from Stolarz back in 1990. Keith can confirm that. The pattern (5 color fade) is identical to all the other 23 Offshores I have seen, but not the actual colors as they look to be unique.. The d-cell core option (epic score) was something I suspected that HIN would have and you've now confirmed it Bill. Your new boat is a 1990 TPI build while the first 23 Offshores came out of the mold in early 1987. A gentleman by the name of Don Kirby did a lot of the high end lay-up work on these hulls although Stolarz designed the schedule from what I can tell. Kirby passed away but was "the man" when it came to SoCal glass guys.

    Very, very interesting. Geez, this deal will stand as the best deal for all of 2014. Nothing will touch it. Remember, I've got first dibs once you decide to move on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Guimond View Post
    Now this one will be very interesting to watch unfold.......

    Although it is a bit tough to tell from the photo what colors are used, I am fairly confident that the gelcoat would have been a custom order from Stolarz back in 1990. Keith can confirm that. The pattern (5 color fade) is identical to all the other 23 Offshores I have seen, but not the actual colors as they look to be unique.. The d-cell core option (epic score) was something I suspected that HIN would have and you have now confirmed it Bill. Your new boat is a 1990 TPI build while the first 23 Offshores came out of the mold in early 1987. A gentleman by the name of Don Kirby did a lot of the high end lay-up work on these hulls although Stolarz designed the schedule from what I can tell. Kirby passed away but was "the man" when it came to SoCal glass guys.

    Very, very interesting. Geez, this deal will stand as the best deal for all of 2014. Nothing will touch it. Remember, I've got first dibs once you decide to move on
    I just finished pulling all the gear out and backing the boat into the only available stall that I had saved for the Warlock. I had a chance to check everything out except for actually firing the engine (it cranks) and all the lights work and the gauges appear to work. I did not find even one flaw in the gelcoat even at the bow! No paint - all gelcoat and not faded at all! The colors are white to light gray to dark gray to maroon/burgundy to black. Absolutely awesome boat and appointments! Keith included 3 ss props, 3 covers, the old exhaust tips and steering wheel, a large packet of documents, a really nice aluminum Danforth anchor with line, ropes, fluids, life jackets, and a soccer ball - lol. There are more things in the boxes that I did not check out yet. I feel like the luckiest buyer right now. I will try to think of something for your Warlock tip! That's all the typing I can do right now on my IPad.

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    I took some more pictures as I was leaving this evening. Have you ever seen a trim pump like this one? It appears to be polished or anodized aluminum, but I still can't read the name at the bottom. One of the pictures shows the ss Hardin water pump and another shows the true colors.
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    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    So that Keith's original ad copy can be seen, I copied and pasted from his advertisement.
    23' Warlock 454cid 525hp Dart big M cast iron block, 91/2 to 1 compression, Holly 830 carb, MSD ign system w/rev limiter & MSD distributor, Crane hydraulic roller Cam w/roller lifters & gold roller rockers, Manley S/S intake valves & Inconel exhaust valves, engine was built by Morgan's Racing engines - walnut creek ca, Imco aluminum exhaust manifolds w/ S/S risers, Cyclone S/S mufflers tips, K-plane trim tabs w/indicators, Imco hydraulic ram external steering, Gaffrig gauges, MerCruiser Bravo drive w/shower, dual batteries w/switch, Halon fire sys, Hardin S/S sea pump, 3-S/S 3 blade props 23"-24"-25", 260 hrs on hull 12hrs on engine, fresh water only, V&M trailer with New- S/S disc brakes & hubs & master cylinder & aluminum rims & tires & wood rails with carpet. 85mph @ sea level 80mph @ lake mead, orig owner and excellent cond.


    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conquistador_del_mar View Post
    I took some more pictures as I was leaving this evening. Have you ever seen a trim pump like this one? It appears to be polished or anodized aluminum, but I still can't read the name at the bottom. One of the pictures shows the ss Hardin water pump and another shows the true colors.
    I've never seen that trim pump. Maybe get a piece of etching paper and use a pencil to take an imprint like kids do on memorials to see what the lettering says. The interior is original. It should have "Team Warlock World Class Boats" stitched in. They used a very unique fabric that is almost burlap like. The foot rests were also standard issue. They used round stock so that the passenger can wedge there feet under the bar to help from getting thrown out of the boat. Team Warlock loved carpeting, it was standard to carpet the engine bay. I've always wondered where they hid the second secret HIN on these boats. If you find it as you work over the boat please let me know. It looks like you also have an optional snap down carpet over the floor carpeting as well as heavy duty Wind-Aways. The SS windshield stanchion became standard with the later build years whereas you do not have the hatch cover SS surround. There might be small tell tale holes in the deck cap that would say if it was there at one point. Keith may have deleted it when he ordered the boat if the holes aren't there.

    There were rumors that the stringers were wrapped in carbon fiber which I could never substantiate. The Divinycell core option with AME4000 resin was expensive, I believe about a $4,600 up charge back in 1990. These hulls have the deck fully glassed to the hull. The hull is stiff yet still very light. I believe that the 23 hull with the core option weighed in at 1350lbs. Compare that to a 1,000lb Donzi 16 hull! The gel colors used are definitely a special order one-off. In fact upon closer inspection it looks like there is not much fade involved? There would not have been an upcharge for this but you won't ever see another one with those colors. You also have some things that may have been incorporated into later builds. The fore to aft storage slot next to both bucket seats and then continuing forward under the deck where the white cushion is wedged in your photo is one. Perhaps they closed it by the buckets creating an open bin where things could not roll backwards into the gunnel area and get lost. That hinged upholstered hatch all the way at the bow snout is another.

    Pay attention to the gas tank. They used two fabricators back then. One very good and one not so good from what I've learned. A low pressure test might be in order for peace of mind at 80mph. The rub rail material was known to have problems over time. I'm not sure but maybe they shrank over the years which caused it create a gap crack. I'm sure if Mr. Carter sees this thread he would have a few suggestions as to what epoxy you could mix up to properly create a matching profile and then fill any gaps for a short term solution.

    Now on performance, I will be very interested to see if the drives propshaft centerline is 4 1/4" below the keel. This would be my guess. The other thing is what you'll find when you run that Bravo's sn# to see what it comes back with. Your boat may have been built early enough in 1990 that Tom Stolarz used a leftover 1989 Bravo One. The 1989's had a slightly smaller bullet than the 1990 and beyond so if you have a 1989 that will help with speed. I don't see 85mph on GPS but I do see a legit 80. These hulls are fast even with the true 24 degree pointy V. Several of them ran SBC power making about 400 ponies and were competitive with slightly larger BBC powered boats. Curious what props Keith gave you, size will be telling. Those expensive monster K planes are needed on these 23'6' hulls with there very narrow 6'6" beam. What is interesting is the size they seem to be. What model are they? How long? If I'm not mistaken you could sell those alone tomorrow for $1,500. The standard issue was Bennet dual ram shorties.

    As to the motor, I don't know chit about car motors so I'll be going to school as you and other forum members figure out what 'cha got there Bill. The mill certainly looks impressive in the pic.

    That's all for now ............
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Guimond View Post
    Ok Bill, that boat must have arrived by now. Spill the beans and post 'em when you got 'em. Remember I'm next in line
    Greg,
    I forgot to mention that Keith also sent one of those 23' Warlock brochures with the packet of info.

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    Awesome buy Bill. Still can't believe the price you paid. Heck, I can't believe the price Keith listed it for, so to get it for less is unbelievable. Probably the best factory color I've seen too.
    Most definitely will be deal of the year.
    Why is faster never fast enough.

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    Congrats. Some boat. That white one in Temecula CA is about 50 miles from my house. After seeing yours, I'm really tempted to go for a look-see. I'll be needing a boat for Austin TX - where I'm heading wth the family soon. Anyway - enough about me. Congrats again. Use her in good health. Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave911 View Post
    Congrats. Some boat. That white one in Temecula CA is about 50 miles from my house. After seeing yours, I'm really tempted to go for a look-see. I'll be needing a boat for Austin TX - where I'm heading wth the family soon. Anyway - enough about me. Congrats again. Use her in good health. Dave
    Dave, I think you will be surprised at the quality of build and ride. I hope you don't plan to boat at Lake Travis since it is so low. If you ever want, make the 4 hour drive up here to Lake Texoma and I can take you out or we can meet and boat together.

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeller View Post
    Awesome buy Bill. Still can't believe the price you paid. Heck, I can't believe the price Keith listed it for, so to get it for less is unbelievable. Probably the best factory color I've seen too.
    Most definitely will be deal of the year.
    I will admit that I was shocked at the end of my conversation with Keith when he told me $10k would buy it, but I was more shocked when I saw what he sold to me. He is an outrageously honest seller! My wife asked if he was selling anything else - lol.

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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