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Thread: The new Sutphen 16

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    Thanks for those details on the Tuff 16. There is zero doubt that the Tuff 21 is the fastest 21 in the world at 102mph with a stock 300XS. Now the Tuff 16 with pad bottom (my pad gained 10mph on my 16 Classic versus the round bottom), a notch to allow for cleaner water earlier to raise the X, and around 500 lbs (each 100lb decrease is worth a 1.5mph gain), along with a modern 2013 CNC bottom design, I'm wondering what it would do with an ETEC 150 H.O. burning 87.

    What prop are you running again on the Tuff 16 for 90mph GPS light on fuel?
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    And as a sidebar, I just noticed that the factory 'Rude shot is using Uflex steering
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    The site shows 90 hp running 62 ... how does 60 horsepower equal 30 mph ? kinda curious cause I want in !!
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    A 150 is way way way too much motor for these boats! It was just an experiment.
    It ran a 32 lightning et prop from mother merc.
    As for the 30 mph gain over the 90, there is significantly more to it than adding 60 hp. This isn't a stern drive, running the prop shaft above the pad, prop changes that are not avaliable to the smaller motors, enough power to climb up on the pad and break the boat free. And lastly total scarafice of driveability, where the 90 does over 60 that is in a form that is friendly

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    The ETEC 150 H.O. weighs 418lb so I would think that is fine for the 16 Tuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Guimond View Post
    The ETEC 150 H.O. weighs 418lb so I would think that is fine for the 16 Tuff.
    add 16-17# for the prop...
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    Not so much the weight, it is the power. These are really small boats.

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    It looks good with the 60 EFI Formula Race 4 Stroke outboard
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    I don't think that those on this thread realize how small these boats are. That picture does a great job for perspective.
    Both the tuff and sutphen are tiny compared to a donzi 16.
    btw that black tuff 16 runs 59 mph with a 60 merc.

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    60 MPH with a 60 horsepower 4 stroke motor is very sweet. You are correct on the size differences of the Tuff and Sutphen 16's versus the Donzi 16 Baby. Different boats for different uses for sure.
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    Greg.... where did you find that 16ob RHD pic?

    is it real?
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    While it is real, it is a Canadian splash 16 Jim with the twin buckets as you can tell. You see them pop up every now and then. I did think it was a very good visual depiction of the difference in sizes of the two 16' hulls.
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    2 more 16 headed north
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    They look good. I think that they might use PPI for the interiors on the little guys but I'm not 100% sure. Where are they shipping from?
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    What do they cost?
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