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    The new Sutphen 16

    Looks like they think the market for small affordable sport/go fast is still viable

    If I make it over to Lk Hopatcong this sunday I will take a look

    http://www.sutphenboats.com/


    pretty poetic that is where it all started for Sutphen back in the day Lk Hopatcong
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    Interesting, but they are showing it with a 40 hp engine? That doesn’t really promote the “high performance” image.
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    yeah probably their entry level model that's why I said sport/go fast . wonder what the numbers are on the 40 ?? as a kid we had an invader 10 footer with a 40 merc not sure it was high performance but it was exciting

    will try and get more info if I see it Sunday
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    Matty, nice find. It will be interesting to see what you are able to dig up. Correct me, but didn't Richie Sr start the business in Lake H, or was the business started by the great grandfather and now in it's 3rd generation. A lot of lineage there and nice to see.
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    Wow

    WOW! $67000.00 for a 21' with a 350 up to $120000.00 for fully loaded 21.
    I don't know how to comment. That the price listed in the Canadian Power Boat magazine.

    You guys think that's a good deal?
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    That magazine issue is from July of 2012 and you got to love a writer who opens an article with prices! That said, wouldn't a 22 Classic cost the same if you could buy one new? The 525 Sutphen 21 GPS'd at 93.4mph.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Guimond View Post
    Matty, nice find. It will be interesting to see what you are able to dig up. Correct me, but didn't Richie Sr start the business in Lake H, or was the business started by the great grandfather and now in it's 3rd generation. A lot of lineage there and nice to see.
    not sure who started it just know that is where they started and were big on Lk H and also my lake back in the 70's, i would imagine that this is Rich Jr .

    in that pic that Bill was nice enough to post the lines remind me of that little invader. Looks to be an entry level sport boat with the bench seats and OB power.
    so if it doesn't rain tom. I'll be at the races and will try and get more info.
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    Regulations

    If a boat has a capacity of two passengers it is exempt from Coast Guard flotation requirements and testing therefore they can make and sell them at a much lower price. Craig Cat is an example. Also, you can rent them out like they do with Craig Cats and you do not need a Coast Guard approval.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Say N20 View Post
    Interesting, but they are showing it with a 40 hp engine? That doesn’t really promote the “high performance” image.


    new numbers on the 16 with a 'rude 90 HO 64 mph
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    Needs a 150 with a jack plate ...
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    64mph from 90hp is pretty good. You'd need double that hp to hit 64 in a 16C. Yes.....I know......different hull designs....
    Why is faster never fast enough.

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    What is max rated HP?

    I wouldn't think that boat would be rated for more than a 115 or so.
    64mph with a 90HP is great! Not sure how she'd handle with big power and don't think it would be necessary to have much more than 115...

    Back in the day I had a 15' Hydro-stream with 115 Merc. She ran about 60mph and handled well with that power. That boat was rated for 120HP but I have seen quite a number of them with 150s; not every driven one with big power, but...
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeller View Post
    64mph from 90hp is pretty good. You'd need double that hp to hit 64 in a 16C. Yes.....I know......different hull designs....
    Double?? I had triple plus a few and I only got to 62 in my 16 this is the trend now entry level boats are back in vogue the bayliner element no frills just a basic all around boat back to an egg beater and red cans ski tube float for 19k or you go for 130k and get a toon with twin 300 rudes that will go 70 and you drive your home around with all of your friends and family
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeller View Post
    64mph from 90hp is pretty good.
    Agree, it is good and Richie has sold a bunch of his little 16's.

    Now the flip side is put a 10 year old Mercury 225X on the back and see what it would clock with that. The Merc makes about 245hp and weighs the exact same as the ETEC 90.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattyboy View Post
    new numbers on the 16 with a 'rude 90 HO 64 mph
    I believe I looked at that exact boat 3 or 4 times earlier this year when I wanted to buy it here in Southern Ontario (actually my first inquiry which went unanswered was fall 2015). The dealer and owner at the time were unresponsive to inquiries (not to mention the lack of response from Sutphen themselves to questions - there is ZERO information available regarding this boat on their website and they were not forthcoming in supplying any). After viewing it multiple times and thinking it over I had a few questions, I sent them off but heard nothing back, followed up, still nothing. After a few weeks I went and crawled all over the thing trying to decide if we should just gamble on buying it with no info but I walked away. I was not sold on the construction of the boat and quality of finishing. Probably for the best. While I was waiting for answers I found a Classic 22.

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