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    Quote Originally Posted by Conquistador_del_mar View Post
    Here is the best picture I have which was taken before I bought the boat. I might be better off to simply move them to the outside of the transom than making extensions for them?
    I would add the extensions first. Cheap and very easy to do. Here is a picture ................
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Guimond View Post
    I would add the extensions first. Cheap and very easy to do. Here is a picture ................
    If I do add length (sounds like one of those emails I used to get), there would have to be vertical supports to the extensions or it they would certainly bend under the load. The lifting leverage would still be horrible mounted so far inboard on the transom.
    After checking, it looks like a pump or two would have to be relocated if I were to move them to the outside of the transom where they should have been mounted. If it weren't for the fact that the Warlock has the nice Bennett tab indicator system in a custom bezel on the dash, I would be tempted to get larger tabs and mount them where they should be mounted. The jury is still out on whether I will do anything about the tabs.

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    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
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    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conquistador_del_mar View Post
    I am now convinced that the relatively small ST-16 Bennett tabs are too small for the 28' Warlock... I wonder if extra length could be added to the Bennetts? Since they are dual ram, they might be able to handle an extra 6" or so, but I don't know.
    Mine were extended.
    Bill, I PM'd you about these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeller View Post
    Mine were extended.
    Bill, I PM'd you about these.
    Thanks for the offer Glen.

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    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Guimond View Post
    Bill, your comment about getting to 74mph with a full and heavy 90 gallon fuel tank (6lbs per gallon) made me go back and look at the progression of events. I'm actually surprised that the IMCO propshaft center is 5 1/4" below the 28's keel. That's deep considering the lwp it has which means it still is providing you very good hull leverage. I'm now thinking that you'll easily see 75mph on demand with the Rev4 and 700hp mill which is a testament to the hull design and the super tight IMCO steering. Also amazing that the Rev4 prop solved 90% of the left hand list problem at speed.
    Bill, have you pretty much solved your leaning problems on the 28 by using the Rev4 now that you have more seat time? It sounds like the prop is a pretty perfect match at this point.
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    Also interesting that both your 23 and 28 are 75mph boats. Tom Stolarz was after all a product of the '70s
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    I started the trim tab relocation this afternoon by removing the port side assembly and then planning on moving it outwards about 11". I will have to fill the holes before setting the tab and rams or they will be in the way of buffing out the gelcoat or paint as I proceed. We have unusually cool weather right now here in north Texas so I am taking advantage . Besides relocating the outdrive pump, the only other modification will be longer 1/4" hosing on the inside - no big deal. Onwards

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Guimond View Post
    Bill, have you pretty much solved your leaning problems on the 28 by using the Rev4 now that you have more seat time? It sounds like the prop is a pretty perfect match at this point.
    I will be keeping the Rev 4 25P on the 28 Warlock, but it did not do away with the portside lean. I am fairly confident that moving the tabs outwards by 11" will make it much easier to trim correctly with using less tab which means more speed. I hope to finish the modifications this week after locating a source for the black gelcoat yesterday.

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    The black gelcoat was not black enough so I'll touch up the areas with black Imron and blend it in at the edges before installing the tabs.

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    I moved the trim tabs 11.5" to the outside of where they were for better leverage so I hope they work perfectly next trip out It was more time consuming than installing them from scratch since the old holes had to be filled and the black repainted and blended in with Imron. I also discovered that each wire (red and green) on each side that provides the tab information to the Bennett trim tab indicator actually has 2 wires and a ground in each wire sleeve. I had cut the wires from each ram (only one ram on each tab has the wiring) since they had to be lead through new holes. Here is the old and new position of the tabs - night and day difference in leverage position. Onwards.
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    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    We made plans tonight to take out the Warlock Monday. I hope to do a relatively long cruise and video the boat from my Phantom drone along with seeing if the new tab location works like I think it will. Onwards.

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    The new trim tab location makes the tabs work like they should now - i didn't end up taking any drone videos today though -

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conquistador_del_mar View Post
    I'll be keeping the Rev 4 25P on the 28 Warlock, but it didn't do away with the portside lean. I'm fairly confident that moving the tabs outwards by 11" will make it easier to trim correctly with using less tab which means more speed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Conquistador_del_mar View Post
    I moved the trim tabs 11.5" to the outside of where they were for better leverage so I hope they work perfectly next trip out. Onwards.
    Quote Originally Posted by Conquistador_del_mar View Post
    The new trim tab location makes the tabs work like they should now. I didn't end up taking any drone videos today though.
    Bill, did it "cure" the listing problem to port and did you pick up any speed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Guimond View Post
    Bill, did it "cure" the listing problem to port and did you pick up any speed?
    The 28' still wants to lean to the port side, but the port tab can now correct the lean more easily. In fact, I can actually lean the boat to starboard now which I was not able to do before changing the tab position. The 5 of us did about 3 hours of cruising at an average of about 45mph in whitecaps without taking any water except for some occasional fine mist - the boat really handles the rough stuff! At one point, I was taking whitecaps from a 45 degree angle towards the port side so I was able to tilt the boat to the right for a much better approach to the waves and a better ride. I actually did not go for speed this time out. I took them to a spot I have not stopped at since the 1970s where we collected a few 300 million year old fossils. A fun afternoon!

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    With our flood this year, I have only taken out the 28' Warlock once this year a couple weekends ago. It ran flawlessly, but the fuel gauge was erratic. It turns out I had to replace the sending unit in the tank which is only 1.5" below the back seat towards the rear so I cut a 5" hole in the bottom of the back seat for access. Thankfully we made it back to the ramp with only about 5 gallons left in the 100 gallon tank!
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    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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