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Thread: 1989 Team Warlock 28' World Class Offshore

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    Warlock is a West Coast boat right? When looking at the side profile of a boat, why do all the West Coast boats seem to have a bow keel with a sharp angle, almost a straight line, as it drops off the bow? They just don't seem to have the curvature in the keel that the East Coast boats do. To me it makes the West Coats stuff look more like a lake boat insteat of an offshore as if the bow doesn't have enough meat to bust through waves, only bounce up. Sorry I'm not trying to be critical of this design, in a way I'm just wondering where this feature came from and why did it seem to end up out west.
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    Rick, are you referring to the area where the trailer bow stopper meets the boats eyelet?
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    Yes Greg, that's it. Just wondering if that design has origins somewhere that made it's way out west.
    RickS-E

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    I happen to know that Tom Stolarz designed the 28 boat from the ground up. He had raced a fair amount of APBA with success I believe. Even as old designs these hulls are known to be very good rough water boats and the snout serves to shear water back to the bow deadrise very effectively. The bow deadrise is super steep as compared to a Donzi 22 for example. Drop the nose and let her eat while the others try and keep up. It'll look like waves are going to wash back onto you but that never seems to happen in all but the heaviest seas. I suspect that the reverse radius in the bow is there for a reason but it would be cool to get more info once Bill actually runs the hull in open seas.
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    1974 16 OB - DMR16106017-B - "The Mule"

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    Speaking of freeboard. I saw a Mag Sport brochure that indicated the Mag has 34" of freeboard. I'm curious if this is accurate and how much freeboard you have on the Team Warlock Bill as compared to say either the Mag or your Martini. I think the best way to measure is from the floor of the respective boats to the top of the gunnel where your arm might rest to keep it simple.
    1972 16 OB - C16B-63 - "Surface Tension" Resto Project
    1974 16 OB - DMR16106017-B - "The Mule"

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    A few pictures I took today. Later, I will get some with the full sides of the boat that really show the profile. Bill
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    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    stunning

    Really stunning boat. nice pull! d

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    Wow. Beautiful boat in amazing condition. That's going to be FUN.
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    Speaking of freeboard. I saw a Mag Sport brochure that indicated the Mag has 34" of freeboard. I'm curious if this is accurate and how much freeboard you have on the Team Warlock Bill as compared to say either the Mag or your Martini. I think the best way to measure is from the floor of the respective boats to the top of the gunnel where your arm might rest to keep it simple.


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    Greg,
    I will try to remember to make the measurements tomorrow. I am also curious. Bill

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    I decided to run back out to my storage business tonight to check on a heat lamp for the Warlock since it is not winterized. Here are the slightly surprising results of the measurements. I measured from the floor to the top of the cockpit sides where the driver is located as well as to the top of the steering wheels. I will list the results in ascending order of the cockpit freeboard, but the steering wheel heights to not follow the same order.


    27' Magnum - cockpit 29" wheel top unknown since the console is not installed This is why I installed a lower standing deck pit in the Magnum floor by 8.5" making it a total of 37.5" freeboard in the cockpit which is more than even the 36' Cigarette.

    25' Martini - cockpit 34.5" wheel top 42"

    28' Warlock - cockpit 36" wheel top 38"

    36' Cigarette - cockpit 37" wheel top 41"

    As you can see, the Martini has the highest steering wheel which is why it is so easy to drive while standing. I am 6' 2" and the Martini feels great standing , but the Warlock seems a little low. Only a 4" difference, but apparently it makes a large difference in the feel. Bill

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    Bill, nice score.

    Ken

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    Bill, you got the first wild deal of this year, who will get the second??

    IMO, this WILL be the next screaming deal for someone....

    fresh 420's, unbreakable TRS's, on an alum. trailer no less, priced right..

    http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/14558
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    Bill, wow those photos tell the story. Very, very clean hull and the long deck interior looks like you might even be able to bunk out under there on the facing bench seats. Is the potti still in place? I also really like the windshield set up and dash.

    Overall, I bet it holds as the best deal of 2012. Now lets see if it runs like
    1972 16 OB - C16B-63 - "Surface Tension" Resto Project
    1974 16 OB - DMR16106017-B - "The Mule"

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    Hey guys,
    I am glad to hear you all think it is as nice as I do. I really lucked out on this one. It will not be very kind on fuel consumption with the Holley 1050 Dominator and 548CID engine, but I don't usually run over 3800RPM so maybe it won't be horrible. I will be adding a little racing fuel to the premium to make sure there is no pre ignition detonation. Can anyone tell what brand headers they are? Lightning? It has MSD ignition with a rev limiter chip which I was glad to see. I was a little surprised that it has the baffled Corsa tips, but the shipper said it sounded like a prostock car when they fired it up at the dealership to show it ran perfectly before he took off with it.
    Jim, that Formula looks like a dream machine at an unbelievable price! Greg, it has the hole for a potti, but there is not one installed. I will be checking everything out and doing an entire maintenance before taking it out, but I anticipate a great riding and relatively fast boat. Thanks again, Bill

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    Bill, interesting info on the seated/standing heights. (The smaller Cig 24 has a tilt wheel to mitigate the problem.)
    "I don't have time to get into it, but he went through a lot." -Pulp Fiction

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