I was wondering if i could get some input on how much an omc 460 king cobra hurts resale of a 22 classic versus merc 454 bravo ? thanks for any input
I was wondering if i could get some input on how much an omc 460 king cobra hurts resale of a 22 classic versus merc 454 bravo ? thanks for any input
It is true that some folks do shy away from almost any OMC outdrive~~~especially since they went under & out of business some years back !
Some of these older OMC drive parts are getting a bit hard to find locally new now !
Many marine mechanics do not know much about them
& possibly won't do any repairs on them . The OMC King Cobra was a good outdrive~~~Possibly OMC's best !
Chevy power has always been more popular in power boating ever since the late 1970s . (Basically when Hollman~Moody, & a few others, stopped building performance Ford marine V-8 engines.
Chevy has since dominated
the marine powerplant industry as base engines used by marining outfits such as Mercruiser & Indmar .
In my opinion the Ford 460 was never intended as a high performance engine.
It's basically just a big truck gasoline engine.
There are just many more great performance & marine bolt-on parts out there in the after-market for the Chevy V-8 powerplants.
Add the Ford 460 engine to an OMC King Cobra Outdrive in a Donzi 22 "Classic"and many diehard performance boaters will pass on buying such a powered Donzi 22 "Classic" .
This limits your potential pool of performance boat buyers.
Thus a lower re-sale price in my opinion .
Last edited by silverghost; 03-24-2011 at 11:24 PM.
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Hey guy , is that the boat that was purchased in Tawas Mich , and if so could you post some pics of her ~~~~~~~~?
Absolutely correct,alot of potential buyers shy away from the OMC boats for lack of available parts. But on the flip side, you might be able to get a great deal on one of the OMC boats as compared to a Chevy powered boat.But at the end of the day..You would still be buying a 22 Donzi classic. One of the most sought after little boats around..Not to mention, the classic hull design is priceless...OMC or CHEVY powered...Still a Classic ride..
the boat i am looking at is in perfect shape ,original owner,always a trailer queen. the omc does not bother me i just want a feeling for resale and were i need to be at to buy it right .
thanks again for any and all input
No matter your allegiance, most in the know will admit that the King Cobra is way superior to an Alpha and somewhat superior to a Bravo.
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1996 22' Classic
Volvo 7.4GSi/DPX (E-4 props)
bone stock 72.8 gps mph
Tony,
I have to agree with you..I have had 3 22 Classics..2 with the King cobra and 1 with a bravo..The only one that went wrong, was the one with the bravo..But It could have been just a coincidence..
I've no personal experience w/BBF's. I've read the biggest problem is high performance exhaust systems.
I know you can buy spacers that allow you to bolt on BBC exhaust to your Ford heads.
You may not be giving up anything.
One of the fastest 22's on this site is Dr. Dan's w/a KC drive.
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Central Florida
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These aren't marine engines, but they're still interesting;
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George Carter
Central Florida
gcarter763@aol.com
http://kineticocentralfl.com/
“If you have to argue your science by using fraud, your science is not valid"
Professor Ian Plimer, Adilaide and Melbourne Universities
Any part you want for a K/C is available and they are'nt expensive either.
After running next to Dr. Dan in his OMC Donzi by Chriscraft for several years now, there isn't anything on that boat that would suggest a markdown from a Bravo boat. If anything, the boat is better built in some areas than my newer vintage 2001. He has run the crap out of that KC drive behind a juiced 500EFI and the engine let go, before the drive did!
So it comes down to the condition of the boat and what both parties think it is worth. I would pause at the 460 and evaluate it for condition, but that is about it.
Nothing at all wrong with the 460 Ford/King Cobra drive. I don't really aggree with it being a 5K reduction in price. There are plenty of King Cobra's still out there with both Ford and Chevy power. Just because the Bravo is more popular does not mean it is better. Like George said the exhaust choices are not as good but there used to be stainless headers available for the 460. There are plenty of performance parts for a 460 Ford also. JMHO. Brian
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