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    Volvo~Penta "E" Drive Parts ?

    Are there any New Old Stock or NEW reproduction Volvo~Penta 270/280 "E" drive lower gearcase internal parts for sale anywhere ?

    I was offered a used & abused "E" drive lower gearcase locally for $200. !
    The case itself is fine~~~
    But the internal gears are a nasty chipped mess !
    Does anyone know of any stock of New Old Stock or NEW reproduction gears & shaft internals available for these older Volvo~Penta "E" speed & racing lower gear-cases out there anywhere ?

    I saw nothing at all on the web !
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverghost View Post
    Are there any New Old Syock or NEW reproduction Volvo~Penta 270/280 "E" drive lower earcase internal parts for sale anywhere ?

    I was offered a used & abused "E" drive lower gearcase locally for $200. !
    The case itself is fine~~~
    But the internal gears are a nasty chipped mess !
    Does anyone know of a stock of New Old Stock or NEW reproduction gears available for these older Volvo~Penta "E" speed & racing lower gear-cases out there anywhere ?

    I saw nothing at all on the web !
    Sweeden from what i have been told or try french creek marine ask for will 315-686-3621
    be prepared to pay 2k for the gears tho...if i had a good set a friend said he could make them..

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    Ahhh, you have moved on to the E drive. The holy grail. And in most case worth more then gold.
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    There is a 16 in upstate ny with and e drive . The owner of the 16 had to make replacement gears and internals parts himself . factory replacement parts were not available from anywhere.

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    Brian on Lake George also had gears made for the e drive on his x-18. He had two sets done, just so he'd have an extra set for the future. He paid some big bucks to have them made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirbyvv View Post
    Brian on Lake George also had gears made for the e drive on his x-18. He had two sets done, just so he'd have an extra set for the future. He paid some big bucks to have them made.
    Do you know how much he paid to have them made? Were they hardened and work perfectly? I ask because I have 3 E-drive cases (2 with gears and prop shafts - one with nothing) and High Life on this forum has 2 with broken gears - these could be rebuilt if someone made the gear sets, prop shafts, bearings and seals. I have one near perfect E-drive without the bottom skeg plate and am running another on my 1971 Donzi 18'. Bill

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    Right now I am trying to decide on an engine & drive set-up for my benchseat 18 project before I jump into my transom & stringer recore & repair.

    I may just pass on this old damaged "E" drive since there does not seem to be a ready supply of internal repair parts . He ony has the damaged case & three prop types.
    Props to be sold at extra cost !

    I am not really looking for top screaming speed from my benchseat 18 project.
    I would rather have a tough bullet-proof drive that will put my 18 Donzi in the 55-65 mph range along with power trim !

    I had a TRS drive with a SpeedMaster II lower case for 15 years; and I just thought that the similar "E" drive might be pretty cool !
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverghost View Post
    Right now I am trying to decide on an engine & drive set-up for my benchseat 18 project before I jump into my transom & stringer recore & repair.

    I may just pass on this old damaged "E" drive since there does not seem to be a ready supply of internal repair parts . He ony has the damaged case & three prop types.
    Props to be sold at extra cost !

    I am not really looking for top screaming speed from my benchseat 18 project.
    I would rather have a tough bullet-proof drive that will put my 18 Donzi in the 55-65 mph range along with power trim !

    I had a TRS drive with a SpeedMaster II lower case for 15 years; and I just thought that the similar "E" drive might be pretty cool !
    Probably your best bet is finding a complete 280T trimmable outdrive setup from a donor boat. Craigslist or Ebay are good sources. Bill

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    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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    I had no idea that these gears & internal parts for the old "E" lower gearcase were made of "unobtainium" ! ;-)

    He plans on putting this damaged "E" gearcase on ebay or craigslist~~~He only wants a few hundred dollars for the gearcase. Great Deal~~~ I guess~~~ if you can make the gears & shafts ? !

    He also has three different props also for this Volvo "E"drive !

    Did they use a special prop drive shaft & spline, & center hub set-up that differed from the standard Volvo 270/280 lower units on the "E" drive ?

    He wants $300 each for the props~~~ 1 Stainless Steel & 2 NiBrAl !
    I do not know the prop brands, model, pitch, or diameter but all are said to be special for this "E" race drive !
    If anyone might be interested ? These too will be listed on ebay or craigslist soon this spring~~~ he says .

    As I mentioned before I know little about Volvo~Penta outdrives~~~and NOTHING at all about the old Volvo "E" race drives !
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    24' American Skier
    Super Eagle 454 HO Skiboat
    1991 454 SS Chevy Super Sport Pick-up for towing my "Toys".

    There is no such thing as going too fast ~ ~~
    OR~ Being too old~ for a new "Toy"!

    Brad Hunter
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    silverghost, I f your looking for good motors & Volvo 280T drives call : Brian ( in Ct.) 860-729-5135 . "HIGH LIFE"

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    I just got word that the damaged Volvo "E" Speed Master drive & three props were just sold to an un-named forum member, that most of you know very well here, for $ 1100.

    WOW~~~That was quick !

    He possibly got a fantastic deal here If he can have new gears & shafts made for a fairly reasonable price ?

    Perhapps the new owner will tell us all his future plans for these rare Volvo speed parts ?

    Some day if some person dares to re-make new gear-sets & shafts in a small batch run we will see all these damaged Volvo Speed Master racing "E" drives that are sitting around will finally come out of hiding !
    We can only hope ?

    From my short time researching these rare race drives~~~~
    I cannot believe some of the prices that I have seen while doing a google search on the web for the very few complete & undamaged used "E" drive units that are/were For Sale out there !

    $ 5000. ----$ 9000. !
    WOW !!!
    Last edited by silverghost; 03-16-2011 at 04:02 PM.
    "BENCHSEAT 18" ~~YellowJacket~~ project owner~
    1929 Chris~Craft 28' Tripple Cockpit Mahogany Speedboat / A-120-A 845 Cu.In. 375 H.P. Chris~Craft V-8 racing engine.
    24' American Skier
    Super Eagle 454 HO Skiboat
    1991 454 SS Chevy Super Sport Pick-up for towing my "Toys".

    There is no such thing as going too fast ~ ~~
    OR~ Being too old~ for a new "Toy"!

    Brad Hunter
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    If the water on Lake St Clair drops any lower we will be able to find all the e drives that Wally Harper Lil SMIDGEN,, & Ken Black Lil Rhino, lost out there. I have heard there were at least 10 drives lost..

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverghost View Post
    I just got word that the damaged Volvo "E" Speed Master drive & three props were just sold to an un-named forum member, that most of you know very well here, for $ 1100.

    WOW~~~That was quick !

    He possibly got a fantastic deal here If he can have new gears & shafts made for a fairly reasonable price ?

    Perhapps the new owner will tell us all his future plans for these rare Volvo speed parts ?

    Some day if some person dares to re-make new gear-sets & shafts in a small batch run we will see all these damaged Volvo Speed Master racing "E" drives that are sitting around will finally come out of hiding !
    We can only hope ?

    From my short time researching these rare race drives~~~~
    I cannot believe some of the prices that I have seen while doing a google search on the web for the very few complete & undamaged used "E" drive units that are/were For Sale out there !

    $ 5000. ----$ 9000. !
    WOW !!!
    I was surprised that no one jumped on my offers a couple years ago. Here is a little more information on them. Bill

    http://www.donzi.net/forums/showthre...vo+speedmaster

    http://www.donzi.net/forums/showthre...vo+speedmaster

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    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
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    Bill,

    as you know I was tempted, but have chosen reliability and more power and 2 280 drives . .

    If someone really wants E drives, they need to be set up with a dry sump lube system and run Redline Shockproof . . there's virtually less than a cup of fluid around the lower gears and bearings . .

    The shaft is small, and the re-entry loads are just to much for these units . .

    Has anyone ever looked into the design and build of a custom Volvo lower unit? Utilizing the pieces from other drives?

    Mario L.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mphatc View Post
    Bill,

    as you know I was tempted, but have chosen reliability and more power and 2 280 drives . .

    If someone really wants E drives, they need to be set up with a dry sump lube system and run Redline Shockproof . . there's virtually less than a cup of fluid around the lower gears and bearings . .

    The shaft is small, and the re-entry loads are just to much for these units . .

    Has anyone ever looked into the design and build of a custom Volvo lower unit? Utilizing the pieces from other drives?

    Mario L.
    I bought the E drive that is presently on my 1971 Donzi in about 1975 after abusing the original 270 lower foot (I never changed the oil - ). It has held up through many owners and abuse, but it is showing some wear. The last owner had a 400+HP engine that broke the shaft between the engine and outdrive, but the E drive survives. I am now running the same lubricant that I use in all my drives and differentials - Dyson Syngear which is a synthetic with lots of additives - probably comparable to the Redline. I don't think they are quite as delicate as some might believe. I should add that the original racing props made for these drives have a lot of surface area and pitch. Add that to the fact that many were raced offshore with the powerful engines might be an indication of why they got a reputation as not very durable. The three I have personally seen broken are due to the gears chipping - not the shafts breaking. Just passing along my thoughts and experience with them.
    Building a custom lower unit would be highly cool, but my guess is that there is too small a market to justify the expense of development and production. Bill

    1971 Donzi 18' 2+3
    1985 Eliminator 23' Daytona Offshore - Kevlar hull
    1988 23' Donzi CC F-23 with 250HP EFI Mercury OB
    1989 28' Team Warlock Offshore - single 548CID/600HP
    1990 23' Warlock Offshore - single 525HP
    Bill from Denison, TX - Lake Texoma

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