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    What the heck causes this discoloration?

    This is factory defects?

    Covers by hull warranty?

    Would you want to fix it or leave it alone as is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selenium View Post
    This is factory defects?

    Covers by hull warranty?

    Would you want to fix it or leave it alone as is?

    someone blended it,,its been repaired with a differant color gel or paint.

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    Would you buy a boat with these cosmetic flaws?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selenium View Post
    Would you buy a boat with these cosmetic flaws?
    In a flash if you like the boat.
    It may not even be a warranty issue since there's nothing structural about it.
    Is it paint?
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    When a repair is made it can look perfect. A year later you usually can see it as the areas have different ages and will fade at different rates.
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    I have to check with Chuck to see if this boat was gel coat or paint.

    The discoloration on the tramsome run on the bottom edge between the 2 trim tabs with varying height of 2-3.5" and sometimes overlapping. The arch on the side is about 5"x6" wide.

    The surveyor is stumped as where this came out the factory like this or owner made the repaired.

    Quote Originally Posted by gcarter View Post
    In a flash if you like the boat.
    It may not even be a warranty issue since there's nothing structural about it.
    Is it paint?

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    Very strange. Does the discoloration extend under the boat onto the bottom surface..? If we assume this is an old repair, what would have occurred that would require a repair in the affected areas..?

    Is it passable that there were bubbles or voids under the original gel coat that caused the gel coat to "pop off". This is not uncommon where gel coat was sprayed into corners of the mold and was either too thick or too thin during layup. Just wondering. DJ
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    The discoloration doesn't extend under the bottom since the bottom is white. The tramsome discoloration is weird b/c if there were damages...it would have damaged the outdrive and trim tabs pretty bad. You think it's the blending of the paiting from the factory?

    Quote Originally Posted by DonziJon View Post
    Very strange. Does the discoloration extend under the boat onto the bottom surface..? If we assume this is an old repair, what would have occurred that would require a repair in the affected areas..?

    Is it passable that there were bubbles or voids under the original gel coat that caused the gel coat to "pop off". This is not uncommon where gel coat was sprayed into corners of the mold and was either too thick or too thin during layup. Just wondering. DJ

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    I know that, for awhile, Donzi was using BASF Diamont 2 stage. If the paint were scratched, or gouged, a repair like this would have been made.
    If the paint shop didn't use the same paint, this could happen.
    It would be easy to fix this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selenium View Post
    Would you buy a boat with these cosmetic flaws?
    Id be wondering whats going on , behind "it"....... IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcarter View Post
    I know that, for awhile, Donzi was using BASF Diamont 2 stage. If the paint were scratched, or gouged, a repair like this would have been made.
    If the paint shop didn't use the same paint, this could happen.
    It would be easy to fix this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonziJon View Post
    George: Are you sayin that Donzi Painted some boats..? DJ
    Yep.
    As I understand it, and Jamie knows better than me, if the hull had a white bottom, the boat was painted. In fact, the whole boat would have white gel, and the contrasting color would be paint.
    If the whole boat was one color, except for stripes, the boat was gel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike o View Post
    Id be wondering whats going on , behind "it"....... IMHO.
    Of course it would be easy enough to sand off the offending area and inspect it before refinishing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gcarter View Post
    Of course it would be easy enough to sand off the offending area and inspect it before refinishing.
    Yes sir, by the defined edges of the patch. Looks like an off color gel repair, from here.........

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    The blue should be paint on this boat. Donzi was painting just about everything by 2006.

    I'd say one of two possibilities,

    1) A non-match paint repair as described above, probably due to edge peel.

    2) An overzellus buff job that has partially burned through the paint allowing the white gel from underneath to show through.

    I'd suspect #2 due to the bright white areas in the chine area pictures.
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