Rolls Trailer Brakes Question

[BLACKIE]

I just completed servicing my trailer for the season and I would like to replace the disc brake pads. The problem is I don't know what kind of pads to get or where to get them.

I contacted Rolls Trailers in Florida but since the brakes have been upgraded since they sold the trailer they could not help me.

I've attached a couple of photos of the brake calipers, does anyone know what brand/make they are and where I could get some replacement pads?

I bought this rig from Reddog back in 2003. He upgraded the brakes to disc from drum and I'm sure he would know the answer to my questions. Are you out there Reddog?

Thanks in advance...

[mrfixxall]

I just completed servicing my trailer for the season and I would like to replace the disc brake pads. The problem is I don't know what kind of pads to get or where to get them.

I contacted Rolls Trailers in Florida but since the brakes have been upgraded since they sold the trailer they could not help me.

I've attached a couple of photos of the brake calipers, does anyone know what brand/make they are and where I could get some replacement pads?

I bought this rig from Reddog back in 2003. He upgraded the brakes to disc from drum and I'm sure he would know the answer to my questions. Are you out there Reddog?

Thanks in advance...

either tie down or Kodiak,,you will need to pull a tire and look for a name casted in the caliper..

ill tell you one thing for sure is to get rid of that plastic hose going to the caliper before it either bursts under hard pressure or melts from the heat..
their should be rubber hoses going to the caliper then to a steel line..

[VetteLT193]

they look like Tie Down calipers to me.

[RedDog]

Tie Downs from Overtons - http://www.donzi.net/forums/showthread.php?t=23967

[Cuda]

Take one of the pads to Napa or somewhere and have it matched up

[Tidbart]

ill tell you one thing for sure is to get rid of that plastic hose going to the caliper before it either bursts under hard pressure or melts from the heat..
their should be rubber hoses going to the caliper then to a steel line..

Best listen to what he said or you will regret it.

[MOP]

They look like the Tie Downs that I have on mine, they use Chevy Nova pads. If they are Tie Downs take good care of the rotors they think they are GOLD, I spent hours in my local parts house trying to match the offset N/G they are custom for Tie Down. When mine get bad I will shim in or out to get an off the shelf rotor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post a shot of the coupler the TD & Kodiak's look quite different!

I just looked to see if I still had the box with the Nova numbers, I doubt id Novas used many different styles.

[BUIZILLA]

Tie Downs are junk

Kodiaks are MUCH better

if your in fresh you can get a complete Kodiak kit here >

Trailer Parts Superstore - Recreational, Commercial & Industrial Equipment

[RedDog]

Tie Downs are junk

Kodiaks are MUCH better

if your in fresh you can get a complete Kodiak kit here >

Trailer Parts Superstore - Recreational, Commercial & Industrial Equipment

Now you tell me. Where was your advice in 2001 when I put them on Blackie's Rolls

[BLACKIE]

Now you tell me. Where was your advice in 2001 when I put them on Blackie's Rolls

I'll second that...

BTW Buizilla, why do you think Kodiak's are better? Is it the "Vented" disc, Tie-downs sell those too? They did seem a little pricy as well.

Also, I was able to locate the correct pads for my Tie-Downs at Overtons for $39 bucks.

[Cuda]

I've been to where they make Rolls. Plant City I think.

[mrfixxall]

I'll second that...

BTW Buizilla, why do you think Kodiak's are better? Is it the "Vented" disc, Tie-downs sell those too? They did seem a little pricy as well.

Also, I was able to locate the correct pads for my Tie-Downs at Overtons for $39 bucks.

Blackie,just look at the kodiak's ,,thicker rotor and vented,the pads also last longer and are ceramic

tiedown's rotors are thin and the brake pads are half the size..

[BLACKIE]

OK, phase II of the brake saga.
I had decided to wait until the end of the season here in Michigan to replace the disc brakes on my rolls 2160T trailer. This is a tandem axle with brakes on the front axle only. It currently has the Tie-down engineering disk brake package with the plastic lines. I had planned to replace the whole system with vented disc’s and neoprene lines with brass screw together fittings.
Here’s where the fun begins, I started researching trailer brakes and found that there are several brands of vented disks. Tie-down engineering and Kodiak’s seemed to be the most popular. When I started looking I discovered there were many variations on ways to put a brake package together. So, I thought that the trailer manufacturer (Machine Works LLC – Rolls) would be a good place to start so I called them. The gentleman I spoke with said that the Kodiak’s were the best. He then said that he could provide me with a kit that had everything in it I would need to replace my old system. This kit cost $521.80 plus $44.01 for shipping. I thought that was a fair price and I expected that I would get top quality Kodiak parts. I was wrong…
The box came in last Wednesday but I didn’t open it until Saturday morning when I planned to start the job. Everything came in one box that weighed 70pounds. The first clue that there may be a problem was the box really rattled and clanked when I moved it. Low and behold I found that all the parts were in that one box but they were wrapped in one layer of butcher paper. Needless to say just about everything was damaged in some form or another. See the attached photos. Also they included plastic brake lines that they didn’t tell me about when I ordered the kit. I wanted neoprene lines for sure.
I contacted Machine Works this morning and they said they couldn’t understand how everything got damaged and that they were going to “Bring UPS in on this”. I indicated that the parts were not packaged correctly for their weight and size. They still couldn’t understand how thing s got damaged. Finally they said just return everything and they will give me a full refund. Ok, I called UPS and they are going to pick up the box of parts and the “butcher paper” packing material tomorrow morning. I’m assuming they will get in a pissing match with Machine Works over the damage. I think I’m going to get my money back so I’m satisfied with Machine Works for now. Time will tell if I stay satisfied.
Now, what to do? I have confidence that the Kodiak’s are the best calipers and rotors. But I’m having trouble finding a place to buy a “kit” for my trailer. The Kodiak rotors I got from Machine Works don’t have hubs with bearings. They are just rotors. To use those I would have to swap the hubs from my rear axle with the front rotor hubs because the old brakes are one piece rotor hubs.
Questions:
1. OK, I can do that but do I really want to? Other then the extra work involved, what would be the difference between the one piece rotors with hub and just a plain rotor?
2. Where can I buy a “kit” with Kodiak rotors, calipers, good quality neoprene lines, Actuator with a reverse lockout, mounting plates and all the various nuts & bolts required? I have looked on the web and the only place that seems to sell a “kit” is Overtons’. But their kit is all Tie-down engineering stuff. It appears that you really need to know what you are doing to piece together a “kit”. I really don’t know what parts go together and would work on my trailer. The web sites are really not much help in determining what constitutes a viable “kit”.
3. What would be the advantage of steel brake lines? It appears that they would be a lot more work and frustrating to install then the neoprene lines?
I would appreciate all the help you guy can give me. I will post the results of the parts return drama as it unfolds.
Thanks…

[BUIZILLA]

you forgot my earlier post and source....

[Tidbart]

They shipped all that hardware and just wrapped it in newspaper. Incredible. What a waste.

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