Well afte a few hours poking around checking my techie sites and friends I finally down loaded MSE, was a painless and fast install! Saved my $60 bucks not updating my old stuff, so far all input on it is very positive. It does not slow the machines down like the rest of the free ware stuff, I also feel it is good as it was built by MS for MS, it is a complete suite so you get total protection.
Phil