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KrausMotorSports
09-14-2017, 12:30 AM
Where to start really? Well I should have known better, as Red was always my bad luck color but I guess it was just a bad call at the time. But the mid 90's Red Classic issues has gotten me pretty good with the body so looking for advise on how to tackle this? Let it go or keep going? Wife loves the classic. I have 2 other boats but the Classic is her favorite. FYI it was originally a SBC/ Bravo now a BBC/Bravo setup.
Following are a few pictures to help you guys understand what i'm seeing. Gel coat has cracked in multiple areas and blisters towards the front by the bow/ engine cover and inside the cockpit front back and inside the storage area between the seats. Before you assume the worst the transom and stringers look solid. I've drilled holes in the top ( where donzi originally filled with foam from the factory) to make sure no water was in there sitting. Should I jump ship or learn and tackle this thing. I've already started sanding inside the engine bay prepping for paint and clearing out any noticeable issues. Repair & repaint and enjoy it for the few years? Change the color and be married to it for the next few years? What should I do fellow Donzi Enthusiast??? Thanks Guys and Gals (if any?)

Morgan's Cloud
09-14-2017, 06:42 AM
Can't view the pics . Photobucket wants your money

Carl C
09-14-2017, 08:59 AM
Can't view the pics . Photobucket wants your money

Yep. Screw PB. Post pics directly. If photo bucket has blocked your access you can take screenshots of them.

KrausMotorSports
09-14-2017, 09:54 AM
Yup! Just seen this this morning. Worked last night then I just did some reading. Photobucket wants $400 for 3rd party posting. That's nuts! I'll find another way and post them later today. Sorry guys. I could really use some input.

Posted directly. I'll do that from now on.

olredalert
09-14-2017, 10:49 AM
----Boy,,,How to answer this question. What I see is a boat that needs a total restoration. With that said you aren't going to realize a big payday as is. But if you restore it your wallet will repeatedly say ouch even if you do some of or all of the work!
----Question; Are those blisters on the side just in the paint or in the jellcoat. I just don't ever remember seeing blisters in that area. Usually, as you may know, they are below the waterline.
----I believe if it was me I would sell and buy another 22. There are always nice ones available, and I think you would spend less doing that than restoring yours. Theres somebody out there that wants a project and thinks that they can do it economically. I stress "thinks". The wife comment is important as it sounds like she really enjoys a 22. Mine,,,not so much. Bigger and quieter for her........Bill S

chip w
09-14-2017, 10:49 AM
I can't tell you what to do but I can share my experience with our 18C. It looked great and ran great when we bought it. 18 months later we discovered that the transom core and stringers in the bilge were rotten. We rebuilt that, put a new oil pan and timing cover, etc. on the motor, new steering, gimble, etc. A year later the port head went and I pumped salt water all through the block. Now it has a new 377 bored .040, etc. The original plan was to only keep this for 2 years and then get a 22C. Now I'm sort of married to this boat. Everything has been done except a new interior. There is some minor checking to the deck. Mechanically the boat is solid. I'm getting some pressure from the rest of the people that live under our roof for something more family/fish friendly. No decision has been made but for the time, money and effort I have into this my tendency is to keep it. And I really like driving it!!!

Just Say N20
09-14-2017, 12:35 PM
As someone who has stared such a project in the face, and decided to go through with it, here are some thoughts.

Having a wife that loves the boat is worth it's weight in GOLD! But isn't THAT Donzi 22 she loves. Any Donzi 22 would work.

As was stated, you will never get back what you spend to restore it. Not even close. If you are a project guy, and want to do it yourself, depending on you level of skill doing the gel/paint portion of the work, you are going to have at least $15K into the boat to bring it back to proper condition. Less is you are a jack of all trades, and can also do engine work, and upholstery, like f_inscreename (Mark).

If it was me, I would sell it as a project, and look for a nice 22. They are out there. And you could come out about the same financially in the end, but without the seemingly endless work and headaches.

jvcobra
09-14-2017, 12:53 PM
Sorry can't help on the decision but I would be interested in purchasing if you do go that route. Good luck in whatever you do.

KrausMotorSports
09-14-2017, 01:39 PM
Sorry can't help on the decision but I would be interested in purchasing if you do go that route. Good luck in whatever you do.

I'll send you a Pm On other details.

As for the comments so far thank you all for the honesty.

I am a jack of all trades all except Upholstry. I do have to outsource for that one. However I do have good resources with automotive paint shops but may be limited to fiberglass construction. Not scared in the least to try new stuff. Again thank you all for the input.

On a funny note... seal it rat rod it and cut the exhaust through the hatch and make it dry? Lol j/k of course. And what a shame. I found this picture on here from original owner. But I for some reason can't update the registry?!?!?!?

CanadianEhTeam
09-14-2017, 03:12 PM
I'll send you a Pm On other details.

As for the comments so far thank you all for the honesty.

I am a jack of all trades all except Upholstry. I do have to outsource for that one. However I do have good resources with automotive paint shops but may be limited to fiberglass construction. Not scared in the least to try new stuff. Again thank you all for the input.

On a funny note... seal it rat rod it and cut the exhaust through the hatch and make it dry? Lol j/k of course. And what a shame. I found this picture on here from original owner. But I for some reason can't update the registry?!?!?!?

have the same problem with mine. Previous owner registered it in the registry and now all I get are errors that it's already been registered. Between that and the "no permission to access" my own profile and settings or member list to pm people I'm not a huge fan of the current state of this excellent resource.

Ghost
09-14-2017, 08:43 PM
As Bill (oldredalert) said, never saw blisters there before. Scares me a little. Made me wonder if it sank, among other things. Not sure I wouldn't consider another project. But maybe.

KrausMotorSports
09-15-2017, 10:31 AM
As Bill (oldredalert) said, never saw blisters there before. Scares me a little. Made me wonder if it sank, among other things. Not sure I wouldn't consider another project. But maybe.

I have reason to believe that there was water trapped in the sides of the cover causing this. It's lived most its live with the mooring cover on it. It's the same on both sides.

Carl C
09-15-2017, 10:39 AM
There are two kinds of boaters. Those who enjoy working on and restoring boats and those who mainly want to drive them. I personally like to drive them. You need to ask yourself which group you are in! :alligator

gcarter
09-15-2017, 02:07 PM
I probably have one of the best (if not the best) restored 22C in existence.
I don't have as much money invested as Carl C does, as he bought his boat new,
or Stan Pike who completely re-invented a 22C, but I have as much invested as
a new 22C plus 2,500-3,000 hours of labor and I have a survey evaluating it
for $55,000. It took nine years, and parts of it were fun, but not all of it.
I really don't recommend the process. Buy the best boat you can afford.
Mine's available.........

KrausMotorSports
09-16-2017, 02:55 PM
There are two kinds of boaters. Those who enjoy working on and restoring boats and those who mainly want to drive them. I personally like to drive them. You need to ask yourself which group you are in! :alligator

Thats probably the best statement I've ever heard in my life. And for some reason never thought of it that way. I guess I would think of myself as a restorer. Never scared to take on new challenges and don't mind working until 2am. I have two other boats to use in the meantime. Not classics but they will work. And since this thing will need new paint anyhow I'd like to think outsode
the box on color. Chevrolet Sunburst Orange maybe? Or something in the wood grain look like another classic was finished with? Have you guys seen that one?

Ghost
09-17-2017, 12:48 PM
The wood-look-decked 22 looks pretty cool in the pics. Not sure any of us here have seen it in person. I think there's a thread about it here somewhere.

KrausMotorSports
09-24-2017, 02:41 AM
The wood-look-decked 22 looks pretty cool in the pics. Not sure any of us here have seen it in person. I think there's a thread about it here somewhere.


Ive seen a few paint processes where you can imitate the look of wood, marble and a few other different surfaces. We shall see.

FitchPowerboatServices
11-16-2017, 10:34 PM
8632386324I know this is a few months old and you may have already made a decision, but I have a few questions. Do you still have the supercharged Big block and is it in good condition ? Is the boat truly solid ? Have you got down in the engine compartment with a hammer and sounded the transom and stringers ? I wouldn't put much thought into the stringers north of the engine compartment because from our experience it almost always wicks from the transom or the unsealed limber holes cut for drainage. In my opinion if the boat is solid and you have power for it go ahead and fix it. When looking for one of these the biggest issue is always rot. You can take a boat that looks like a garage kept gem only to find rotten transom and stringers. The cracks on the rear deck around the top of the seat are a combination of two issues, due to the shape of the mold the gel coat puddles in that area and becomes to thick which leads to cracking and once again due to the shape during layup they have air voids between the gel and the laminate. A lot of these projects get taken a little to far and that's why guys end up double upside down in them trying to reinvent the wheel. If your going to paint it take it to someone that does good glass work first and have those areas fixed correctly first most body shops will fill cracks but not get to the root of the problem. Have it painted, new interior put the power back in and only fix what needs to be fixed don't get carried away.