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MOP
12-31-2014, 04:58 PM
Sending you this In case you want to know where all the money is coming from that will be wasted.


In Case You Forgot……



Here is what will happen on January 1, 2015:



· Top Medicare tax went from 1.45% to 2.35%

· Top Income tax bracket went from 35% to 39.6%

· Top Income payroll tax went from 37.4% to 52.2%

· Capital Gains tax went from 15% to 28%

· Dividends tax went from 15% to 39.6%

· Estate tax went from 0% to 55%

· Remember this fact:

· These taxes were all passed only with democrat votes, no republicans voted for these taxes.

· These taxes were all passed under the Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare. Or as the democrats said, "the people are too stupid to realize what we did!" Remember this in 2016....... :mad:

Marlin275
01-01-2015, 06:48 AM
this is MOSTLY FALSE
http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/whathappened.asp
http://www.factcheck.org/2014/04/false-tax-claims/

smidgen too
01-01-2015, 10:15 AM
Factcheck is said to be sponsored by the Annenberg Foundation. It's hard to say if any of these sites are really what they say they are, I found this about Annenberg organization.

ANNENBERG Public Policy Center (APPC), the sponsoring agency behind FastCheck.org, is itself supported by the same foundation, the ANNENBERG FOUNDATION, that Bill Ayers secured the 49.2 million dollars from to create the Chicago ANNENBERG Challenge “philanthropic” organization in which Barack Obama was the founding Chairman of the Board for and Ayers served as the grant writer of and co-Chair of for its two operating arms.

Marlin275
01-01-2015, 12:09 PM
This tax chain mail is for January 1st 2014 and has nothing to do with truth or 2015 . . .

If you don't like that site
read it here too . . .
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/may/14/chain-email/chain-email-overstates-tax-increases-incorrectly-s/

PolitiFact is an independent fact-checking journalism website aimed at bringing you the truth in politics. PolitiFact's reporters and editors (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/staff/) fact-check statements from the White House, Congress, candidates, advocacy groups and more, rating claims for accuracy on our Truth-O-Meter. Every fact-check includes analysis of the claim, an explanation of our reasoning and a list of links to all our sources. PolitiFact tracks President Barack Obama's campaign promises on our Obameter (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/).
PolitiFact, a division of the Tampa Bay Times, won the Pulitzer Prize in 2009 for its fact-checking of the presidential election. The Times, Florida's largest newspaper, is independently owned (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/blog/2009/sep/01/who-pays-for-politifact/) by the Poynter Institute, a school for journalists in St. Petersburg, Fla.

no problem with Snopes!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snopes.com

Accuracy

Jan Harold Brunvand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Harold_Brunvand), a folklorist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folklorist) who has written a number of books on urban legends and modern folklore, considers the site so comprehensive as to obviate the necessity for launching one of his own.[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snopes.com#cite_note-Seipp-11)
David Mikkelson has said that the site receives more complaints of liberal bias than conservative bias,[23] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snopes.com#cite_note-FactCheck-23) but insists that the same debunking standards are applied to all political urban legends.FactCheck (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FactCheck) reviewed a sample of Snopes' responses to political rumors regarding George W. Bush (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush), Sarah Palin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin), and Barack Obama (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama), and found them to be free from bias in all cases. FactCheck noted that Barbara Mikkelson was a Canadian citizen (and thus unable to vote in US elections) and David Mikkelson was an independent who was once registered as a Republican. "You'd be hard-pressed to find two more apolitical people," David Mikkelson told them.[23] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snopes.com#cite_note-FactCheck-23)[24] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snopes.com#cite_note-24)

Ghost
01-01-2015, 02:38 PM
Setting aside the tax discussion, it's worth noting that there is a time-honored tradition of false-credentialing within propaganda. It creates the fodder for fools to swallow (and even perpetuate) the propagandist's desired notions based on the classic fallacy of circular reasoning and/or "you lie and I'll swear to it." It follows naturally that the most effective approach to this is not to publish pure falsehood, but rather to stir select lies into truth in a very precise and strategic way.

bertsboat
01-02-2015, 06:27 AM
If it's mostly false then it is also mostly true. It it was completely false then it would have to be completely untrue.
So, there is an equal amount of true if it;s mostly false. We will see how it affects your life and what you will say about it when it does.
Also, these rules apply only to top earners. if your not a top earner, do you not hope to be at some point in your life? If so, then these new rules and taxes will just make that dream harder to achieve.
I don't mind paying tax, I just think everyone should pay an equal amount. Even if it's just a small amount. Everybody should have some sweat in the game. Then they will fight harder to keep the playing field level.


this is MOSTLY FALSE
http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/whathappened.asp
http://www.factcheck.org/2014/04/false-tax-claims/

joseph m. hahnl
01-02-2015, 08:09 AM
I don't believe that any media outlet today is justified as truthful reporting . Propaganda is just that, propaganda. It is created to make an emotional response so a irrational action will occur . One thing that holds true regardless if the percentages hold any meaning, is those tax dollars will be WASTED :shocking:

Marlin275
01-02-2015, 09:38 AM
If it's mostly false then it is also mostly true.

This is not true.
Mostly means, "almost entirely".



So, there is an equal amount of true if it;s mostly false.

This is not true.
"Equal" does not mean "mostly".
Something can not be equal if it is almost entirely.

A 1970 Donzi hull is mostly made of fiberglass but has some wood, not equal amounts of both.

bertsboat
01-02-2015, 07:51 PM
We will see how it affects your life and what you will say about it when it does.

This is not true.
Mostly means, "almost entirely".



This is not true.
"Equal" does not mean "mostly".
Something can not be equal if it is almost entirely.

A 1970 Donzi hull is mostly made of fiberglass but has some wood, not equal amounts of both.