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Scott Pearson
08-30-2014, 10:18 AM
Should have this one done for the 20th Dust-Off!

Scott Pearson
08-30-2014, 10:22 AM
More pictures

Rob M
08-30-2014, 12:59 PM
Cool. What is the hull#? Interesting this one is balsa core on deck mine is some kind of composite fiberboard.

SanDogDewey
08-30-2014, 02:54 PM
Very nice! The finish came out fantastic! What was is shot with?

jl1962
08-30-2014, 06:37 PM
Nice!
Love the DOUBLE axle trailer w/ the flying saucer hub caps.
:)

SamIam
09-01-2014, 10:53 AM
Very nice.

bertsboat
09-01-2014, 05:58 PM
Looks good Scott. Where does the owner live, near you?

Morgan's Cloud
09-02-2014, 06:25 AM
Very nice

Lenny
09-02-2014, 08:25 AM
Very nice. Scott, that things looks "good" to start with. A bit of a time capsule.

Definately nicer now.

What was ( is ) the drive train set-up?

Scott Pearson
09-02-2014, 02:00 PM
Owner lives here on the East Coast. All coring , stringers and transom have been replaced...everything. It will have a 3.0.....:eek: Should be an amazing example of a correct baby. Tons of NOS stuff was found and will be used.

Splash
09-04-2014, 08:10 AM
I believe its hull #3 or 4, I could ask my buddy who use to own it. I drove this boat for many years, what a blast it was to ride in. The glass work was done right down the street from where I live.

Greg Guimond
09-04-2014, 08:21 AM
I believe its hull #3 or 4, I could ask my buddy who use to own it. I drove this boat for many years, what a blast it was to ride in. The glass work was done right down the street from where I live.

Where did you used to live Splash??

olredalert
09-05-2014, 07:56 AM
----If this is Dans boat, I rode in it back about 8 or 10 years ago and it seemed very solid. That was about a year or two before he sold it to a really nice guy on the west coast of Florida. Now Dan has a beautiful 27 Magnum Sport, and I believe he still has his crackerbox. Cant remember his name but I believe he also had 2 unrestored El Pescadors and a couple of other go fasts too. Resto is beautiful, as usual, Scott!.......Bill S

mattyboy
09-05-2014, 08:16 AM
don't think this is the Mi. boat this was an Northeast coast boat

BUIZILLA
09-05-2014, 09:01 AM
the Fort Myers guy was Brian Freeman, he and Dauley were tight buddies,. he also had a Critter, El Pescador, and something else... we haven't heard from him in quite awhile though

mattyboy
09-07-2014, 06:53 AM
Looking closer, I see a Connecticut sticker on the transom so it's defiantly not Dan's boat. You think this may be the one that was in the garage in NJ that was crushed??


no ,,

plus that story was never confirmed.

when did they make the lounge seating baby?????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????????????????

Scott Pearson
09-07-2014, 06:04 PM
It's hull #10. And the old owner had it for 25+ years.

Kirk
09-07-2014, 08:35 PM
Scott

Was this the one in New Britian?

Hope your well

KJ

Scott Pearson
09-08-2014, 05:14 AM
Yes thats the one.

Splash
09-08-2014, 07:48 AM
Greg,
I grew up in West Hartford, CT. I was good friends with the original owner who had a cottage down on Niantic Bay. We used the boat primarily on the CT River and Niantic bay area with some trips out in the sound on calmer days. The last engine in the boat was a 470, 4cyl with 170 hp, boat ran about 55 but its the handling that makes these boats so fun to drive. I have never been in a boat that you can turn the wheel so hard and it felt like it was on rails, never skipped or jumped. The boat looks beautiful, I didn't get a chance to go down and see it in person but my buddy stopped in occasionally to watch the progress. I believe the place that did the glass work has another baby 14 they will eventually be restoring. Good luck to the owner, Jim

Scott Pearson
09-08-2014, 11:05 AM
The other Baby 14 is mine that Tom is doing all the structural work on. The 14 is really a Cigarette that Don Aronow took with him when he sold DONZI and Magnum. It's was rigged and titled at the Cigarette factory. I hope to have both 14's done over the winter.

Splash
09-09-2014, 07:36 AM
Scott,
Sure looks like they do nice work, good luck on getting it done. I will try to post some of the pictures of the 14, I believe I uploaded a few way back when to the web site. If I remember correctly it was one of the times I took it to Lake Champlain in Vermont.

Jim

bertsboat
09-09-2014, 08:01 AM
I saved these, they are too cool.


Scott,
Sure looks like they do nice work, good luck on getting it done. I will try to post some of the pictures of the 14, I believe I uploaded a few way back when to the web site. If I remember correctly it was one of the times I took it to Lake Champlain in Vermont.

Jim

bertsboat
09-09-2014, 08:03 AM
How many do you think you could get together for one gathering? Any interest in that? Maybe a half dozen, maybe more?
Plenty of notice.

seano
09-11-2014, 03:08 PM
scott, have you tried fitting the scripts yet?

Scott Pearson
06-05-2015, 06:18 PM
Coming along...Some updated pictures! Lots of trial fitting going on with the engine mount, pump bracket, battery box etc. Engine should be in for good next week once brackets are painted.

Scott Pearson
06-05-2015, 06:25 PM
More

Scott Pearson
06-05-2015, 06:30 PM
A few more

mattyboy
06-06-2015, 07:30 AM
nice work awesome

Morgan's Cloud
06-06-2015, 02:26 PM
That's a whole lotta love going on there !

Is it my imagination or does the baby 14 carry less deadrise than other models ?

mario
06-07-2015, 06:13 PM
very nice looks great

Just Say N20
06-07-2015, 06:50 PM
Absolutely spectacular! :eek:

Sagbay32
06-08-2015, 08:51 PM
Wow, absolutely beautiful!

mattyboy
06-09-2015, 06:36 AM
That's a whole lotta love going on there !

Is it my imagination or does the baby 14 carry less deadrise than other models ?

1 of 2 of the only Donzi Classics to be a true vee boat ( barrelback the other one) the number i heard was 22 degrees

chip w
06-09-2015, 10:28 AM
Incredible build! Better than new. Really nicely done!!

Scott Pearson
06-09-2015, 12:48 PM
Thank guys! I will post more pictures soon. Once the motor mount, trim pump bracket and fuel tank are painted a lot should go together quickly.

Bert yes its as close to the original gel as possible.

mattyboy
06-09-2015, 07:14 PM
Correct me if I am wrong but Brownie told me the Baby is a 1/2 scale 28 Sportsman bottom which is 24 degrees. Don's plan was to race this little boat in the Miami to Nassau race and make the smallest boat record. That came right from Brownie.

Bert

I am sure that was the plan and the 14 was marketed as a 28 offspring . We Know Don had a thing for the 14 as it made it's way around 188th st with him, but look at the boats the 28 and the 19 have more in common , wide beam , round nose, rounded bottoms, short inner strakes , character line.

the 14 and the barrelback have more in common both have narrower beam , the rounded rear deck transom lines , true deep vee sharp keel, inner strakes that come all the way to the transom.

the 14 doesn't have the the pointy nose of the 18

a half scale 28 would be a LOA 14 feet on a 5 foot beam the 14 is LOA 14 feet 5 inches 6 feet 3 inches beam I am far from a naval engineer but a 24 degree sharp vee 5 feet wide would be more than a handful.

the color was called Lucan red

Rob M
06-10-2015, 10:37 AM
Scott:

Is the correct interior for the Baby 2-piece (Bench, Seatback) or 3-piece (Bench, 2 component seat backs).

Mine had a 2-piece, but it was not original. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks

Rob

Scott Pearson
06-10-2015, 03:18 PM
Bert we have plenty of those stickers (NEW). Thanks!

Rob, The back 2 piece and the bottom is one.

smokediver
06-10-2015, 08:46 PM
Beautiful work !!

Rob M
06-10-2015, 08:51 PM
Scott - thanks for confirming. My restoration is close to final, needs interior and the rear corner rub rails and then is done

Scott Pearson
06-11-2015, 04:32 AM
Rob, Can you post a thread with pictures? Would love to see it!

Bert, Thought you meant the sticker. :yes:

mattyboy
06-11-2015, 07:01 PM
14B-6, yes, they are everywhere

most of the 14 babies and the Cigarette 14 are accounted for but one of the rarest Donzi Classics of ALL TIME is still not accounted for

not the Criterion II

not the 427 side oiler Benchseat or barrelback or the 18 OB

it would would be the twin hatch Left hand helm baby 14

Rob M
06-11-2015, 07:56 PM
Rob, Can you post a thread with pictures? Would love to see it!



Updated some progress pics in the original thread BarnFind #2

Greg Guimond
06-16-2015, 08:33 AM
Thank guys! I will post more pictures soon. Once the motor mount, trim pump bracket and fuel tank are painted a lot should go together quickly.

The high end West Coast restoration shops can learn a thing or three from you Scott. Impressive work you are doing :thumbsup:

Scott Pearson
06-16-2015, 11:22 AM
Bert,
I know to each their own but whom ever did that boat they ruined it in my opinion. There is nothing remotely nice about that look at all. Everything that gives these classic boats that classic look is gone. :bonk:

mattyboy
06-16-2015, 12:06 PM
Bert
the boat I am referring to is the boat seen in the baby Flyer and is a Donzi built in the 60's volvo powered.

the coca cola boat is a cigarette??? what is the HIN ??????? a lot of work has been done to it is the helm position original or is modified

mattyboy
06-16-2015, 12:39 PM
It doesn't matter anymore what it looked like. I would take it if I found it. Put it back to original.
That boat was stolen in May of 09 in Miami never to be found. The owner then committed suicide (not because his Baby was stolen). This was a Baby Cigarette, one of three. But I believe only two had CRT HIN numbers.

Here is a direct quote from the builder whom worked at Cigarette (not Byng Goode)

This is the boat I built at cigarette for Aronow, there was only one , we sold it to Irwin Feiner (deceased)and shipped it to New York , Billy Horn (deceased) contacted me in 04 to rebuild the boat and sent it from Freeport , New York to me to rebuild I finished the project in 05 and shipped it to Miami where he was living, The boat was stolen in may of 09 and I was contacted by several law enforcement agency's and insurance company investigators. That is all I know and remember.

So, keep your eyes out for the hull. My guess was that they were afrer the drive and engine. It was not a 4 cylinder.


pretty vague info besides the names . would need to confirm original setup and original build dates

Pearson's cig 14 has no imprinted hull or affixed HIN badge it was given a valid Cigarette racing team HIN on it's title when it was sold sometime in 1977. The reason for this was the boat was popped from the mould at Donzi around 1967 5 years before the term and the practice of HINs were mandated by the USCG. your boat was popped a year later in 1978 and had a HIN embredded in the transom if this boat was built at cigarette in that time frame it should have a HIN.


that cig doesn't have a split hatch and has so much resto/mod work done to it it would be hard to tell if that helm location is original what was the engine drive combo if it wasn't a 4 cyl and an alpha??

mattyboy
06-16-2015, 01:14 PM
No Baby Cigarettes had a split hatch, in fact, there were very few with a split hatch. The split hatch boats had Mercruiser Renault engines and when the Chevy based mercruisers came along they had to re design the hatches because the split hatches would not close with the new engines installed. Hence the fax scoop and one piece hatch. The flame arrester is sitting in that scoop.


Bert

I am confused which is not surprising when you post . If the cigarettes didn't have split hatches why bring them into the conversation?

You quoted my post mentioning the very rare split hatch left hand helm baby Donzi so what does a cigarette have to do with it?

the split hatches were not all renault's they had them on an omc and a volvo powered boats as well again see the pic I posted from the flyer .

mattyboy
06-16-2015, 07:49 PM
If Cig did make a LH helm 14 wonder what they used for the power drive combo?

Scott Pearson
06-29-2015, 07:20 AM
Front engine mount is in.

Scott Pearson
06-29-2015, 04:45 PM
Tank in, Trim pump and bracket in, Fuel filter in and Battery box in!

jl1962
06-29-2015, 05:05 PM
Very nice!

Scott Pearson
06-30-2015, 06:47 AM
Thanks Jay!

Morgan's Cloud
06-30-2015, 12:12 PM
Gotta love that finish in the bilge. When you see that you know everything else is going to be great ..

chip w
06-30-2015, 02:45 PM
Beautiful! I hope that someday I can see it. Your work is spectacular!

Tom A.
06-30-2015, 06:49 PM
Looks Awesome!

Scott Pearson
07-01-2015, 05:38 PM
Thanks guys!

Scott Pearson
01-26-2016, 07:44 AM
Ok...Some updated pictures of this restoration. I really have not worked on it all summer due to redoing my entire outside of the exterior of my home. So now I'm back on this amazing boat and we plan on debuting it at the 2016 Dust-Off.

Iím onto the wiring now and will be post pictures of that as well.


So stay tuned to more pictures!

mattyboy
01-26-2016, 07:48 AM
looks great

Kirk
01-26-2016, 08:46 AM
Hey Scott

If your ever up in Westbrook, Ct. stop by and check the cig out I could use a few pointers in doing my floor over

83706

Pat McPherson
01-26-2016, 02:02 PM
Hey Scott

If your ever up in Westbrook, Ct. stop by and check the cig out I could use a few pointers in doing my floor over

83706

Id like to invite myself to check out your Cig. I'm in Ivoryton, 10min away. I had a 78 28ss.

Scott Pearson
01-30-2016, 11:41 AM
14 Baby dash wiring is done. The gauges are all NOS from 1966. The back coating on them is factory when they built these dash's back then. Pretty cool!

f_inscreenname
01-30-2016, 12:54 PM
Looks great!

Scott Pearson
01-30-2016, 02:57 PM
Bending and massaging these brand new bronze cast emblems before they get chromed. With the contour on the hull sides rounded the why it is these emblems need to be curved to fit the hull properly and then chromed. I still need to drill and counter sink mounting screw holes.

olredalert
02-01-2016, 09:49 AM
---- Jim,,,Brian, Dauley, me and many others were taken to the cleaners by a husband and wife scam team, by the name of Majewski. I was lucky they only nicked me for around 6 grand as others in this sad tale lost millions. The male part of the team died in the clink, good riddance!!!! His wife was skulking around Canada after she got out the last I heard. I believe Brian got bitten pretty good as well. He delivered a benchseat V-drive Hornet to them to be restored. They promptly stripped it of every part and rolled it outside where it resided until they went down and finally Brian got the hull and deck back. All the parts went missing. I actually managed to get a trailer from another of Brian's boats they stole from Brian back for him. There were actually people who killed themselves over their losses due to these skum sucking a::h::::!!!!.......Bill S

---- Sorry Scott,,,Somehow I missed a bunch of pages, and went a bit off track!!!

Scott Pearson
03-28-2016, 07:54 AM
Here are some pictures of the rub rail getting installed this weekend. Boat should be done in the next few weeks.

yeller
03-28-2016, 01:31 PM
Looks beautiful Scott! Really like the white walls and baby moons on the trailer too. :yes:

JParanee
03-28-2016, 08:01 PM
Beautiful boat

you guys definitely do things right

Scott Pearson
04-11-2016, 03:35 PM
Coming together...Waiting on hinges for hatch. I need to put on decals and script. Give it a polish and wax. A few odds and ends here and there and it will be at the Dust-Off!

jl1962
04-11-2016, 03:39 PM
Very nice!

I like the manufacturer's plaque on the transom.

Morgan's Cloud
04-11-2016, 04:21 PM
Amazing work and attention to details . This standard isn't just accidental . Absolutely fantastic. I think I've only ever handed out one of these before , but this warrants it ! :worthy:

Scott Pearson
04-11-2016, 05:01 PM
Thanks Guys! I'm really excited about this one. It was a nice dry run for when I do my 14. Not much I would not change between the two except the color.

JParanee
04-11-2016, 08:20 PM
Beautiful

Pat McPherson
04-12-2016, 01:50 PM
Nice work

bertsboat
04-12-2016, 03:50 PM
What color are you going with on your 14 Scott?


Thanks Guys! I'm really excited about this one. It was a nice dry run for when I do my 14. Not much I would not change between the two except the color.

Scott Pearson
04-12-2016, 08:04 PM
The color is called Cotton Candy. It's a Fucshia type of color in our Vibrance line. It has crushed glass in it. Looks amazing outside!!! The entire boat will be that color with a white deck and waterline stripe. All white interior.

Color is on the trailer already.

Scott Pearson
04-17-2016, 02:42 PM
Decals and scripts on, steering wheel installed, foot locker sealed and prop is on. Almost done!!!

Wazzy
04-17-2016, 03:05 PM
Wow, Looks absolutely amazing! Really well done.

JParanee
04-17-2016, 06:18 PM
Beautiful

olredalert
04-17-2016, 06:33 PM
----Wonder how the little bugger would react to an Alpha SS?........Bill S

Scott Pearson
04-19-2016, 04:50 PM
Bill, not sure if you would want to do more then 55mph in this boat. It would get interesting I would think.:lookaroun:

Ghost
04-19-2016, 06:41 PM
Looks amazing! :)

Scott Pearson
04-25-2016, 07:05 PM
Big hatch and small hatch are on! Snaps are in! Almost done.

yeller
04-26-2016, 01:00 AM
Looks fantastic! :worthy:

olredalert
04-26-2016, 09:01 AM
----It does look great, Scott! Is the second hatch above the engine basicly for clearance?.......Bill S

Scott Pearson
04-27-2016, 06:24 AM
Bill, the engine does need a little bit of clearance on the top but not much. Its for the exhaust manifold mostly. I machined the stock flange down 9/16 for better fit. I think its a cool factor also.

Ghost
04-27-2016, 08:36 AM
Looks better than new--finish looks perfect.

Scott Pearson
05-06-2016, 02:52 PM
Cockpit cover finished!!!

Rob M
05-06-2016, 04:44 PM
The whole restoration looks first class and turned out amazing. It's show time!

woobs
05-06-2016, 05:57 PM
Nicely done!