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mattyboy
10-24-2013, 07:57 PM
interesting read

http://www.offshoreonly.com/articles/awesome-boats/tuff-marine-building-100-mph-ilmor-powered-21-footer?fb_comment_id=fbc_255980864550692_1194796_2 56074581207987#f3a70d0f44

Greg Guimond
10-24-2013, 08:49 PM
Tuff is always improving there product on all levels. Any new builder that makes the 10 year mark is doing a lot right and there 21's are the fastest deep V's out there.

CMC319
10-25-2013, 08:13 AM
It looks like the duel is on North of the boarder !!!

smidgen too
10-25-2013, 12:42 PM
Back in the early 90's I raced against Mark on the OPT circuit. He was the toughest OB racer we ran against & most knowable with the OB power. The P class had OB's racing against inboard power Skaters. He even beat our Skater EASTERN EXPRESS in ruff water. With his knowledge about OB's anything he now builds would be a great boat. They were TUFF n UFF. :yes:

Carl C
10-25-2013, 01:15 PM
It's interesting that they didn't go with a blown LS based marine engine with a boat that size. There has to be a reason that everyone is sticking with big blocks for high hp applications. That is going to be a sweet package.

Greg Guimond
10-25-2013, 02:54 PM
Back in the early 90's I raced against Mark on the OPT circuit. With his knowledge about OB's anything he now builds would be a great boat.

Mark W has built a steller reputation over 10 years. There has been a lot of detailed (and heated) exchange about his Tuff 21 over the past year. It actually is running 101-102 consistently with stock 300XS power which has a little less oomph than a 300X and about 3x the gas mileage.

When you raced against him, I'm curious was he piloting both OB and IO hulls in the early 90's for various teams?

smidgen too
10-25-2013, 05:02 PM
Mark W has built a steller reputation over 10 years. There has been a lot of detailed (and heated) exchange about his Tuff 21 over the past year. It actually is running 101-102 consistently with stock 300XS power which has a little less oomph than a 300X and about 3x the gas mileage.

When you raced against him, I'm curious was he piloting both OB and IO hulls in the early 90's for various teams?

We raced against Mark from 1991 to 94 I never saw him in anything but his OB 32' Skater, or before 1991 he had a 24' Skater OB.

mattyboy
10-25-2013, 06:49 PM
the 21 challenger was a great hull if he improved on it, the tuff 21 is an awesome hull.

sounds like he builds a great product at a very competitive price

would love to see one run

smidgen too
10-25-2013, 09:55 PM
TUFF n UFF,, watch this YouTube video..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKOic1zjlKU

Greg Guimond
10-25-2013, 09:56 PM
Tuff competes in a "tough" 21 foot class. Here are the bottom designs of the 6 that play ball at high speeds ...........

Greg Guimond
10-25-2013, 09:59 PM
And the numbers behind the hulls ...........

Fastest SOB Hulls Available For Purchase New In 2013....All Boats Powered with a stock Mercury 300XS (306HP and 6400RPM Limiter)

#1 Tuff 21 kevlar hull-890lbs – 20’8” Long, 7’7” Beam - 22 degree deadrise (Confirmed 102.5MPH Driver Blake Sewell) (2002 Tuff 21 ran 102MPH w/300X)
#2 Bernico F2 21 standard hull-727lbs–21’4” Long, 6’3” Beam - 24 degree deadrise + 14” pad (Confirmed 98.1MPH Driver VanSteelant) (550lb s3000 385HP ran 103.1MPH)
#3 Progression 22 standard hull-948lbs – 22’1”Long, 7’8” Beam - 24 degree variable deadrise + 7" pad (Confirmed 94MPH Driver goneby)
#4 Sutphen 21 standard hull-1325lbs–20’9” Long, 7’2” Beam - 20 degree variable deadrise + 1" pad (88MPH Driver Unknown) (525I/O with heavy layup ran GPS 93.4MPH)
#5 Nordic Crossfire-21 or SR-21 standard hull-1475lbs– 21’ Long, 7’1” Beam - 18 degree deadrise + 9" pad (Confirmed 86MPH Driver wildone)
#6 Velocity 220 standard hull-1895lbs – 21’6” Long, 7’11” Beam - 22 degree deadrise + 12" pad (Confirmed 83.5MPH Driver aaronmt73)