View Full Version : 21 Apache OB

05-20-2013, 09:16 PM

05-21-2013, 06:04 AM
Great looking boat. Looks like it has been well cared for.

Just Say N20
05-21-2013, 07:24 AM
Lots to like about this one!

Just Say N20
05-21-2013, 07:28 AM
More pictures.

Greg Guimond
05-27-2013, 07:59 PM
Interesting find for sure. You don't see many Apache 21's out there. They are an excellent hull built by the best. $20k is high with the older Ox66 250. The 21 Scout is being produced new under the supervision of Bob Saccenti, the original builder. I believe that Defender pulled the first one earlier this year using modern materials and layup.

Greg Guimond
05-27-2013, 08:01 PM
As a point of comparison, this mint, freshwater only, 1991 Superboat 21 has a 1998 Promax 225 and just dropped the asking price to $20k. You never find them in this condition.

05-28-2013, 06:38 PM
I love the 21' Challenger / Superboat; is the Apache the same hull?

Greg Guimond
05-28-2013, 10:17 PM
The late 70's Challenger hull was the basis for many, many later 21 hulls and for those of us (not many) who love eggbeaters George Linder is akin to Don A. The Superboat was pulled directly from Linder's molds and was a splash which caused many disputes. They have not built a new Superboat 21 since 2003 and the mold is evidently no longer useable. I have had two and they tend to be light but very efficient. The Apache bottom is derived from the Challenger and I believe that Apache worked with Linder (he cooperated with Saccenti) as the bottom was developed. Both Superboat and Apache are narrow "pad bottom" V's but the Apache is the better rough water boat with a superior layup. The Apache deck was tooled as a standalone item and I believe there were three different versions. All these boats were built back at a time when quality was affordable to the average Joe and you could bolt a 200 to the transom and go 60.

Today, in 2013 you can buy a Tuff 21 with stock 300XS power and break 100 with a space age layup and a 22 degree V bottom but it'll cost you $75k which for that speed is a screamin deal.

Now back in the day when Challenger ruled the world, they could evidentlly run 80 with twins. Here is a clip in heavy water of that legendary 21.