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Greg Guimond
12-19-2011, 08:21 PM
Anyone have info on Signature hulls from back in the late 70's?

smidgen too
12-20-2011, 02:29 AM
They were made in Miami Florida from around 1976 to 1980 by Tom Adams. The 27' had a Magnum bottom with larger lift strakes. [some say for extra lift when carrying contraband] Tom Adams would become a victim of a hitman while driving his Porsche on I-95 around 1980. :eek:

Greg Guimond
12-20-2011, 07:15 AM
Wow Smidgen :shocking: thanks for the info. It looks like this 1982 27 is coming up for sale. Unique looking hull and very interesting on the lifting strakes. Would that be readily apparent at the transom end?

OFFSHORE GINGER
12-20-2011, 09:45 AM
Had a chance to ride in a 27 a few years back which i thought was a very nice ride, and to tell you the truth i really liked the cockpit opposed to a Mag sport . Mark great pics ......................and how much stuff have you saved over the years considering you always seem to be pulling something out of your hat Ha Ha Ha :cool!::yes:

smidgen too
12-20-2011, 10:47 AM
In 1976 I meet Tom Adams At the Charley's Crab Race in St Clair Mi. The Signature he had on display was this one with Volvo E drives from his sales book ? After a closer look the transom it had Magnum Vin numbers ???? Tom had been racing a red Mag sport Miss AMERICA, this was the hull but with a new deck.. After that encounter with Tom I always thought his 27' hulls were the same as a Mag. Years later I was talking to a old friend who used these boats for midnight runs and said that with the wider strakes they rode higher with a load. This white hull that is being restored looks like it's a old drug runner with the large hatches on the deck for :embarasse ???

BUIZILLA
12-20-2011, 11:14 AM
the last boat is definately a *fishing* boat, a good friend had one, maybe two, those are aftermarket sliding moonroofs from a car, and yes, they leaked :boggled:... and I just showed him the pic.. the deck rails were there to keep loaders from sliding off the deck, and also to keep the bales from going back in the water during loading/unloading, also the deck engine vents were closed on the work boats like this one because the water in rolling heavy seas would enter in mass amounts due to the flat shelf on the deck in front of them, rather than the rolled deck up by the cockpit... his had some small teak rails on the rear outer deck lip so it wouldn't damage things when they pulled product out of the water from the stern when there was a floater drop, since the bow height was too tall to snag the produce.. some had work boat rubrails though, the freighter hull sides were pretty rough.. should have a flat engine hatch, 350-350 small blocks w/Volvo 280's and trim

Greg Guimond
12-20-2011, 12:36 PM
Ok, did I just stumble upon the ultra rare 25 degree deadrise wave crusher ..........not many out there, Martini, Sutphen, and now Signature.

OFFSHORE GINGER
12-20-2011, 01:46 PM
Greg , Sutphen has a 26 degree deadrise . Funny thing seeing that this thread is about Siginature power Boats i saw a 38 for sale awhile back here in Holland with In -boards , rudder's , shafts , ect, ect , and yes once again in-boards .........................:yes:

Fast Shafts 1
12-20-2011, 02:07 PM
Greg, is this the same hull that was for sale in Rochester NY a few years ago?

Greg Guimond
12-20-2011, 04:03 PM
Ginger, I did not know the Sutphen Rum Runner 26 was 26 degrees, cool. Fast Shafts, correct that is the one I believe.

OFFSHORE GINGER
12-20-2011, 04:31 PM
Greg , i will post a pic of standard equipment on all packages from a build sheet that i have from 87 , and if i can i will try to dig up my original factory brouchure or portfolio that list's all the models & specs that they made .

OFFSHORE GINGER
12-20-2011, 06:35 PM
http://i39.tinypic.com/2vwv1y0.jpg

smidgen too
12-20-2011, 06:49 PM
[Had a chance to ride in a 27 a few years back which i thought was a very nice ride, and to tell you the truth i really liked the cockpit opposed to a Mag sport . Mark great pics ......................and how much stuff have you saved over the years considering you always seem to be pulling something out of your hat Ha Ha Ha ]

Artie, If I only had a digital camera back then. Mark

Greg Guimond
12-29-2011, 10:22 PM
Thanks for the post OG. The Signature is for sale in the Syracuse area.

OFFSHORE GINGER
12-30-2011, 10:56 AM
Mark . if you had a digital Camera years ago .....one could only imagine all the photos that you would have stored in your archives .......................WOW..........:wink:

Fast Shafts 1
12-30-2011, 03:33 PM
If the 27 Signature was a splash of a Magnum hull with a new deck, how did the hull go from 24 to 25 degree deadrise? I understand how the strakes could be made wider, but adding one degree of deadrise has me confused??:confused:
How much are they asking for this hull?
Thanks,
Bob