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vlbob2
07-10-2011, 12:42 PM
SCAREY: After a ride yesterday (not particularly rough) a LARGE BOLT is in the bilge, between stringers, 3/8 x 3", 9/16 hex head, silver. An initial survey with flashlite & mirror did not find any obvious bolts missing from front of engine (350 sbc mag V8) ie; alt, ps, closed cooling brackets. I am not familiar with the starter bolts on sbc, nor what bolts hold on outdrive??? 3/8 x 3" being a serious size bolt, I'm hoping one of you engine/boatbuilders can identify...HELP! Thanks, Bob:bonk:

MOP
07-10-2011, 12:48 PM
Size sounds like a starter bolt or the alternator or power steering pivot bolts, or possibly a manifold bolt all of which are 9/16 and +or- 3", there are very few bolts that long!

vlbob2
07-10-2011, 01:03 PM
Do you, or does anybody know exact dimensions of starter bolts on sbc to help narrow it down or pinpoint it? (boat is on a lift with starboard side out so access to starter is very difficult). What bolts are on outdrive?

hardcrab
07-10-2011, 01:29 PM
check out motor mounts, any brackets on and around engine (?)

- could be superficial - , could it have traveled from another area and ended up at the engine area ?

vlbob2
07-10-2011, 01:41 PM
Thanks, not engine motor mounts, not ps, not alt pivot, not exhaust manifolds... somebody must know?

Walt. H.
07-10-2011, 02:04 PM
If its a starter bolt it will have serrations or knurling under the bolt head where there isn't any threads.
Your best bet is to start feeling around those area's asap because you don't want to start or run your engine with any of those bolts missing, as in ruining your engine flywheel teeth with a wobbling starter motor resulting in a broken starter nose cone at the very least or throwing a loose belt.

Alternator and P/steering bolt will be easy to spot if missing, check for loose belt will be a dead give-away...
Keep us posted as to what you find!
WH

fogducker III
07-10-2011, 02:14 PM
Not sure of the size or length of the two bolts that hold the bell housing to the inside gimbal plate....???

vlbob2
07-10-2011, 02:27 PM
Thanks, No knurling or serrations under head. Long shoulder as 2" of bolt is not threaded, only last inch. It is not ps or alt as I replaced alt last week (and had no parts leftover). As I recall, 2 bolts hold on starter? One of you sbc experts must know exact dimensions of starter bolts???

vlbob2
07-10-2011, 03:53 PM
OK, I got over the water and upside down and could feel both starter bolts, the short one & the long one too! Now what? Any ideas?

mrfixxall
07-10-2011, 05:50 PM
OK, I got over the water and upside down and could feel both starter bolts, the short one & the long one too! Now what? Any ideas?


post a pic of the bolt..

vlbob2
07-10-2011, 07:06 PM
Wish I could but haven't figured out how to yet? 3/8 x 3" with 9/16 hex head, long shoulder threaded last inch only, sorry.

mrfixxall
07-10-2011, 08:52 PM
Wish I could but haven't figured out how to yet? 3/8 x 3" with 9/16 hex head, long shoulder threaded last inch only, sorry.


if you just got the boat it coulld be a gofor bolt,one someone droped in the bilge and could not find it so they gofor another one..

vlbob2
07-10-2011, 09:13 PM
Wish it were that simple, could be, but it is 3rd season with boat. Was not in bilge when I replaced heads winter 09, unless came thru hole under rear seat...

hardcrab
07-10-2011, 09:29 PM
think outside the box;

it could'a come from some other location, where is the "upstream"?

RedDog
07-10-2011, 09:34 PM
All I can say is I hate it when that happens...

TXDONZI
07-11-2011, 12:57 AM
Soundslike my 74 Rally Sport.....it had an ash tray full of screws and clips that had fallen out now and then when you hit a bump.

DONZI
07-11-2011, 08:06 AM
Wish it were that simple, could be, but it is 3rd season with boat. Was not in bilge when I replaced heads winter 09, unless came thru hole under rear seat...
With the long shoulder it suggests exhaust manifold or bellhousing bolt also.

GeneD
07-17-2011, 05:01 PM
The only bolt that fits that description would be the water pump bolt on the left side of the engine. Usually holds the water intake hose to the block via a sheet metal clamp. Though I would think you would have water coming from the engine if that was out.
The exhaust manifold bolts are longer.
The starter bolts are longer, and look special.
There is a bolt that is somewhat that length holding the bellhousing to the block. I believe that bolt is on the left side also.
Could be an 'extra'...

Dr. David Fleming
07-17-2011, 05:15 PM
Probably droped by some former mechanic who couldn't find it - rolled out of hiding just in time to drive you nuts? maybe the factory left it.

joseph m. hahnl
07-17-2011, 06:20 PM
A few other spots with long bolts. satellite oil filter adapter,thermostat housing.

Double check alt and power steering as you just replaced something there and may have forgotten to tighten it and it fell out

vlbob2
08-07-2011, 06:21 PM
Couldn't identify bolt. Want to thank you all for trying. Took 18 for a ride and still turns 4600 rpm and just south of 60 mph. So my fingers and still crossed and boat is still running!

Scott Pearson
08-08-2011, 07:33 AM
Could be front lifting eye bulkhead bracket bolt. Thats a long way to travel but anything is possible.