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Buddyc
05-01-2011, 06:14 PM
Just got home from Rootsys house and picked up the newest addition to my family. Red Mistress is her name. Well documented restoration has taken hee so far... now its my turn to finish where Jamie left off. It is going to be a daunting task and I will be relying on most of your help go help guide me through.
Thank you all in advance,
Buddy

MOP
05-01-2011, 06:33 PM
It comes from a good home with I am sure a good solid start, it will be fun watching it come together. It is azz holes and elbows time!!!

Phil

mrfixxall
05-01-2011, 06:45 PM
Glad you made it home safe! i know towing with a lifted truck can be tireing at times..
ok heres some good advise, go to bed!:shades:

Buddyc
05-01-2011, 06:55 PM
Jamie and Patti are great people...He walked me through everything he did and its easy to be impressed with his know how and overall good nature. Jamie laughed as we put it on the trailer realizing he must have put 500lbs of extra fiberglass when he was doing the hull.
I also got boxes and boxes of extra "stuff" he had for her. I was impressed with the condition of the extierior of the hull and deck. She is straight, solid and true. Im going to take inventory of what I have and what needs to be done, Tray to make a a list ( Long list) of what needs to be done
I thinking a realistic deadline of next year for getting her in the water. Its going to be an exciting jounrney

Carl C
05-01-2011, 07:24 PM
Yay! Congrats on getting it.:party:

scippy
05-01-2011, 07:28 PM
Buddy if you need any help, Give me a shout....I live in Jackson, not far from great adventure.....guaranteed, you'll need an extra hand (or back) when it comes time for the heavy lifting portion of the Red Mistresss resto.

Buddyc
05-01-2011, 07:31 PM
Buddy if you need any help, Give me a shout....I live in Jackson, not far from great adventure.....guaranteed, you'll need an extra hand (or back) when it comes time for the heavy lifting portion of the Red Mistresss resto.
Thank you very much... Im in Voorhees

Buddyc
05-01-2011, 09:02 PM
Here is a pic of the work I have ahead of me. I will get plenty more once I ger apart and dig in
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/227620_1953977377511_1484990906_2179546_8080258_n. jpg

silverghost
05-01-2011, 09:56 PM
Buddy:

Did Rootsy (Jamie) finish-up all the needed fiberglass & wood core work ? ~~~
I know he did quite a bit of work on her already.
OR
Do you still have more glass core work to do on the Mistress ?

What about Engine & outdrive ?
What drive came with this project. Volvo 250 ?

Buddyc
05-01-2011, 10:20 PM
Buddy:

Did Rootsy (Jamie) finish-up all the needed fiberglass & wood core work ? ~~~
I know he did quite a bit of work on her already.
OR
Do you still have more glass core work to do on the Mistress ?

What about Engine & outdrive ?
What drive came with this project. Volvo 250 ?

Corework complete, Just minor trimming and detail work. He did an amazing job...
He cut the new transom to fit a Bravo drive... Im going to roll with that.

Rootsy
05-02-2011, 10:58 AM
Buddy:

Did Rootsy (Jamie) finish-up all the needed fiberglass & wood core work ? ~~~
I know he did quite a bit of work on her already.
OR
Do you still have more glass core work to do on the Mistress ?

What about Engine & outdrive ?
What drive came with this project. Volvo 250 ?

I've done all of the interior core and fiberglass work except for a few things that may need consideration. First being the cockpit floor. I didn't dig into it and it felt pretty solid so I didn't bother to cut it open. I suggested to Buddy that he look at it when he gets the deck off. I tossed in enough balsa that he should have enough coring to do it, hopefully. The ski locker needs to be finished, the one I created a mold for and laid up. The deck needs a new wood strip for the screws to bite into and the deck needs to be cleaned up around the mating lip so it sits down on the hull evenly and properly.

This boat originally came with an OMC Stringer drive and V8 Buick. I glassed it in, doubled the size of the original transom wood and cut it for an alpha or bravo. Bravo transom assy went with the boat.

silverghost
05-02-2011, 02:38 PM
Thank's Guys~~~

It sounds like Rootsy did most of the real tough and dirty hull work already.

Sounds like Buddy got a great project.

Buddyc
05-02-2011, 08:43 PM
Jamie did take over 700 pics of the restoration in progress
http://www.jarootfarms.com/photogallery/thumbnails.php?album=7&page=1

silverghost
05-02-2011, 09:05 PM
WOW !

Jamie: You sure did alot of fantastic glass & core work on this old Red Mistress project.
I never saw so much photo documntation on ANY restoration project.
It's a shame you were not able to finish that great Mistress project for your own use & enjoyment.

Buddy: you sure have one great almost NEW project boat there .

It should be very easy to finish this project now.

Greg Guimond
05-02-2011, 09:11 PM
Holy moly, and I thought I was anal about documenting a build :shades:

Buddyc
05-02-2011, 09:18 PM
Holy moly, and I thought I was anal about documenting a build :shades:
He is a tuff act to follow but i will do his work justice and finish with the same quality and care as Rootsy did. Funny thing is we have the same vision for her... Going to be sweet. Actually looking at colors now and hope to have her in primer soon

Greg Guimond
05-02-2011, 09:23 PM
Wohhhh, you not keeping it red?

Buddyc
05-02-2011, 09:41 PM
Wohhhh, you not keeping it red?
Yes staying Red. Just looking for the right Red. Fromthe extierior she will look origional... Kinda like this...
http://www.donzi.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63456&d=1304115421

Buddyc
05-22-2011, 10:31 PM
I finally have the garage cleaned out, strengthened the rafters and lifted the deck off today. Working on hull and putting in a wood strip for the screws to bite into. Then its flipping it ober and getting the hull ready for paint... still trying to figure that out .

Buddyc
06-15-2011, 12:45 AM
Well I have her in the garage and split. With the help of the members I built a set of rolling dollies for the hull..Geeze they make a huge difference. I also used a 4 foot rolling scaffold for the deck. Perfect to sit under and a great height for me to work on. I cleaned her all up so see what I have in front of me. I targeted all the little pesky stress cracks, and frayed and cracked edges.
Im at a bit of a stand still till I get my compressor and for those or you that dont know, Sanding resin by hand really blows.
The more I look , the more I see... there are some areas where the gel is all cracked and peeling especially in the back seat area. I can lay into it when I get my hog sander up and running. But I have a hatch that has anti skid on it and I dont want to lay into it with a sander... Can I use any type of stripper? Prob not.
Here are some pics of where im at:
http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd406/Buddych/1966%20Donzi%20Resto/th_DSC00904.jpghttp://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd406/Buddych/1966%20Donzi%20Resto/th_DSC00902.jpghttp://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd406/Buddych/1966%20Donzi%20Resto/th_DSC00907.jpghttp://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd406/Buddych/1966%20Donzi%20Resto/th_DSC00905.jpghttp://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd406/Buddych/1966%20Donzi%20Resto/th_DSC00911.jpghttp://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd406/Buddych/1966%20Donzi%20Resto/th_DSC00909.jpghttp://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd406/Buddych/1966%20Donzi%20Resto/th_DSC00917.jpghttp://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd406/Buddych/1966%20Donzi%20Resto/th_DSC00914.jpg

Buddyc
06-15-2011, 08:51 AM
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/247119_2055553836859_1484990906_2327557_899392_n.j pghttp://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/247875_2055551916811_1484990906_2327544_6620995_n. jpg

Carl C
06-15-2011, 09:31 AM
I thought Rootsy had made more progress on it than that. Oh well, get her done.:)http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll264/PuzzlEd_pics/Clipart%20by%20PuzzlEd/Clipart%20sketches%20Smileys%20Faces%20and%20Celeb rations/redstarwithhappyfaceclipartsketchlge12cm.gif

Ghost
06-15-2011, 11:29 AM
Now you're cookin', congrats!

Rootsy
06-15-2011, 01:01 PM
I thought Rootsy had made more progress on it than that. Oh well, get her done.:)http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll264/PuzzlEd_pics/Clipart%20by%20PuzzlEd/Clipart%20sketches%20Smileys%20Faces%20and%20Celeb rations/redstarwithhappyfaceclipartsketchlge12cm.gif


WTF Carl.... WTF...

Carl C
06-15-2011, 01:38 PM
WTF Carl.... WTF...

It's all good. I even dug up the closest thing I could find to a red smiley face. I just thought you had gotten further with it.

Rootsy
06-15-2011, 02:15 PM
It's all good. I even dug up the closest thing I could find to a red smiley face. I just thought you had gotten further with it.

Maybe in your world chief.... Unless you were asshole deep in fiberglass dust and resin in my shop how would you have any idea how "far" I got with it...

I guess 200 +/- hours of my life = "not far enough"...

Sometimes I wonder why I even bother keeping the bookmark in my browser...

Buddyc
06-15-2011, 03:05 PM
It's all good... no worries. I bought it and I knew what I was getting into.
Ps Carl... I like the red star... reminds me of a heineken

Carl C
06-15-2011, 03:31 PM
wow.....

gcarter
06-15-2011, 04:58 PM
Buddy, they make electric hand planers that can be used to remove cracked gel and resin from larger areas. I understand it's a lot faster than a sander. After all, it's pretty hard to fair a fairly large area.

Buddyc
06-15-2011, 09:04 PM
Buddy, they make electric hand planers that can be used to remove cracked gel and resin from larger areas. I understand it's a lot faster than a sander. After all, it's pretty hard to fair a fairly large area.
Hey George,
I have an electric planer that I use for work but it is used on wood. Would I be able to try that? ... one way to find out...hehe
Also got some goodies in the mail. Thanks to Scott Pearson for the recomendation
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/250407_2058409028237_1484990906_2330083_7576665_n. jpg

Buddyc
06-21-2011, 10:24 PM
I finally got a compressor today... Now I can get some chit done. In the meantime, I drilled and installed the brass sleve for the drain plug. Thanks George Carter for the tool to press it in. Worked like a champ, Not like any of you dont know but 5200 is friggin messy, Sticky stuff... And it takes forever to cure..lol

http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd406/Buddych/1966%20Donzi%20Resto/DSC00922.jpg


http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd406/Buddych/1966%20Donzi%20Resto/DSC00923.jpg

http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd406/Buddych/1966%20Donzi%20Resto/DSC00924.jpg

Just Say N20
06-21-2011, 10:54 PM
5200 actually comes in a few flavors with respect to drying time and consistency. The runny slow dry stuff is a real mess to work with for sure.

Buddyc
06-21-2011, 10:56 PM
5200 actually comes in a few flavors with respect to drying time and consistency. The runny slow dry stuff is a real mess to work with for sure.
WOw learn something everyday... I had no idea. The stuff I used has blue lettering on the tube and said 7 days to totally cure
Thanks for the info

axelkloehn
06-22-2011, 02:20 AM
Buddy, are you sure you got it in the center? :wink:

Sweet Cheekz
06-22-2011, 06:56 AM
I recently tried some of that particular 5200 and it never cured Redid it with the fast cure stuff and it was great the next day

Parnell

mattyboy
06-22-2011, 07:46 AM
it all depends on what job your looking for it to do , a quick perimeter bead or to seap into smaller crevices.

Buddyc
06-22-2011, 08:29 AM
Buddy, are you sure you got in the center? :wink:
I just finished the hole that was already started..... close enough:cool:

silverghost
06-22-2011, 08:39 AM
The original 3M 5200 is a slow cure-High Strength moisture cure poyurethane adhesive caulk.
We have used it on old mahogany wooden boat restorations since the mid-1970s.
The higher the humidity in the air or surrounding wood~~~the faster the cure.
Full cure typically takes seven days.
We used to dampen a boat's wooden seam first to quicken the cure.
On the tube's plunger end
there is a seal with a dessicant pack to keep moisture at bay.
If you have a parial unfinished tube seal the tip end and put the tube in a tightly sealed plastic bag with all the air squeesed out to keep the caulk from curing in the tube.
The fast cure style is not nearly as strong in sheer strengh as the slow cure style.
There is a trade-off to using both types.

GBond
06-22-2011, 01:43 PM
Looking good

Just curious...why you didn't go with the threaded brass plug assembly instead?

Rootsy
06-22-2011, 02:12 PM
The hole that was started is where the ORIGINAL hole was placed by Donzi in '66. Slightly off center. The black marker line is the actual C/L of the hull.

Buddyc
06-22-2011, 05:31 PM
Looking good

Just curious...why you didn't go with the threaded brass plug assembly instead?
6 in one and a half dozen in the other ... I like the brass sleeve all the way thru sealed in

And as far as the plug being off center... I knew someone was going to say something but I sure the hell was not going to fill in the original hole just to move it a 1/4 inch... never notice it when in the water..lol

mattyboy
06-26-2011, 03:24 PM
wouldn't have been easier to put that tube in after the hull was painted?

Buddyc
06-26-2011, 04:23 PM
To me it didn't matter. I didn't have my compressor yet and not much to do... can't stand seeing it sit there and nothing being done.

mattyboy
06-26-2011, 04:53 PM
I know the feeling of trying to get things done and doing them for that sake, but I have found on my project sometimes that leads to more work. I have painted my self into the proverbial and literal corner a few times.

Buddyc
06-26-2011, 05:01 PM
Well hopefully what I have done so far won't screw me up later... I think I'm good so far? I'm a painter for a living and I don't like being in corners. :wink:

Buddyc
07-09-2011, 09:38 PM
I got back to work today and trying to figure out how to get rid of all the cracks and blisters in the Gelcoat.
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/264362_2163036123849_1484990906_2407586_1976_n.jpg

It looks like way too much material was put on certain areas. Sanding and grinding can distort and make way too much dust. George carter said that there are planers that they make for fiberglass that would take off the gel and not damage the substructure... Well I used my wood electric planer and it worked real well. The hatch is in bad shape as well... I will post pics tomorrow of the progress. Thanks again George

gcarter
07-09-2011, 09:47 PM
Yep, wood planers they are.
I've not used one myself, but I've read so many articals and books reccomending them for that purpose.
The only thing i figure, if there's lots of territory, an additional set or two of blades would be required.
I'm glad you're making headway.

Buddyc
07-09-2011, 09:53 PM
Its a wicked noise when you put that machine to fiberglass... sounds like it hurts but if you take your time and be carefull it works great

mrfixxall
07-09-2011, 10:17 PM
i googles gelplane and it looks like this guy made his own..

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jenandpat/1060523097/

Buddyc
07-09-2011, 11:29 PM
Hey Mike,
Mine was like $70 bucks and I had it for years. I use it for work on when im doing new doors. It takes 95% of the gel off without getting into strippers or grinding for long periods of time.Anything I can do that will help cut down the grinding time, and itching time works for me. and besides it will take any high spots out and give you a level surface.

http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/300/5b/5b22d91a-429a-48f8-bcb7-695b0d6a17cf_300.jpg

Buddyc
07-09-2011, 11:41 PM
It almost works as well as this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BflDWCO2vx0

RudeBuoy
07-10-2011, 12:07 AM
Just finished reading about your project. Wow! Total respect to you and Roosty for doing such a great job! Really enjoyed checkin the photos from Rootsy. My BB had a total of 2 pictures from her :( resto.

Buddyc
07-12-2011, 08:49 PM
Here are before and after pics of the hatch after I took off all the Gelcoat. I would rather start from scratch then try to deal with putting more material on top of bad material
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/264690_2169766532105_1484990906_2418514_2001005_n. jpg
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/281585_2169766772111_1484990906_2418515_1864754_n. jpg

Buddyc
07-12-2011, 08:51 PM
Now take off the other half and feather it out with my longboard... The planer leaves a straight surface and should take much to have it ready for primer

gcarter
07-12-2011, 08:54 PM
I'm glad the planer is working for you.

That's a thankless task.

Buddyc
07-12-2011, 09:04 PM
I'm glad the planer is working for you.

That's a thankless task.

You said a mouthfull there George... Earplugs are a must for sure!

Buddyc
08-14-2011, 08:19 PM
Just thought I would share a couple of pics of how the faring is going. Its funny, when you start looking... there is alot more to fix then earlier anticipated...
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/263293_2250744596506_1484990906_2530852_10467_n.jp g
Now the hatch... After alot of work, it is almost there
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/198688_2250745636532_1484990906_2530854_1970999_n. jpg

Buddyc
08-14-2011, 08:25 PM
The deck had huge vents cut into it instead of the origional clamshells
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/263377_2250746316549_1484990906_2530855_4762216_n. jpg
Its nice to see things take shape. I cut out the old swiss cheese and glassed a new lip
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/295461_2250748116594_1484990906_2530859_6240222_n. jpg

Donziweasel
08-14-2011, 08:36 PM
Lookin good man. Save that arm for sanding mine this winter..... :)

Buddyc
08-14-2011, 08:51 PM
The bow is just about there... Have to make a sandpaper run tomorrow
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/223693_2250747236572_1484990906_2530858_266388_n.j pg

Carl C
08-14-2011, 09:32 PM
I'm glad you are working on it. The progress is looking good. Keep the up-dates coming.

Walt. H.
08-14-2011, 09:46 PM
Exactly what Carl said, glad to see and hear you got your incentive back to continue. :yes:

mattyboy
08-15-2011, 09:01 AM
regular bondo likes to absorb water and doesn't flex . two things pretty important on a fiberglass boat.

Buddyc
08-15-2011, 09:24 AM
I was waiting for someone to assume what I was using. FWIW its not bondo... Gimme a friggin break!

mattyboy
08-15-2011, 09:39 AM
Buddy,

this is an informational board people learn and gain knowledge from these threads so it might help to add a few lines and say . "the old deck had large vents and I filled and fair with XYZ's ABC product and this is how it works.

Buddyc
08-15-2011, 09:52 AM
Buddy,

this is an informational board people learn and gain knowledge from these threads so it might help to add a few lines and say . "the old deck had large vents and I filled and fair with XYZ's ABC product and this is how it works.
Yea right, Like your best bud is so forthcoming with his post... He never leaves the punchline out.lol

Rootsy
08-15-2011, 11:12 AM
Buddy,

The boat at one time had the clam shells but a previous owner removed them and most of the hardware and for some reason put rectangular vents. At some point water infiltrated the coring, whether before or after the rectangular vents I have no idea. The wet / rotten coring was removed and spray foam was pumped in to fill the void. This whole deal caused the deck to sink in those areas. It took me quite a bit of effort and ingenuity to get the deck as level as it is at the moment in those areas.

Looks like you are making some good progress... That gel was in poor condition through-out. Someone had also clear coated over the gel at one point and you can clearly see that as you fair it.

mike o
08-15-2011, 11:49 AM
I was waiting for someone to assume what I was using. FWIW its not bondo... Gimme a friggin break!Ok, Here Ya go........:kingme:

Buddyc
08-15-2011, 11:55 AM
Jamie,
I did notice the clear coat and all the extra material that was put in through the years. The hard to get to areas are the bitch... like inside the hatch jamb. The work you did is solid which make life SO much easier. I wish I could find something that I could brush o. Like a stripper to remove that old gel and paint, without hurting the glass underneath it...

Buddyc
08-15-2011, 11:59 AM
Ok, Here Ya go........:kingme:

Thanks.. I needed that. They are best when you keep them in the fridge. :)

Buddyc
08-15-2011, 01:39 PM
" WE"... do you speak for everyone or do you have a mouse in your pocket?

Buddyc
08-15-2011, 02:10 PM
Yes I do... and I named him brad. Lol

mattyboy
08-15-2011, 04:24 PM
Yea right, Like your best bud is so forthcoming with his post... He never leaves the punchline out.lol

?????

pipnit
08-15-2011, 04:58 PM
Sometimes, this place reminds me soooo much of this:


http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~melmoth/photos/China/chKnittingCircle.jpg

Buddyc
08-15-2011, 05:59 PM
All material I am using on the boat are Dupont Imron products. I like to stay within a system. So I'm using thier faring compound and epoxy primer before topcoat...

joseph m. hahnl
08-15-2011, 06:43 PM
Sometimes, this place reminds me soooo much of this:


http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~melmoth/photos/China/chKnittingCircle.jpg


http://paddyk.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/gentlemen-s-club.jpg

Completely absurd my good man. Men of our distinction would never where such pompous attire. Righto chaps, lets get back to the resto!

biggiefl
08-16-2011, 01:47 PM
To remove the paint in hard to reach spots have you tried Regular white can(not lemon) EZ-Off? I have used it to remove names and it worked like a charm and did not effect the gel at all. Generic or Lemon does NOT work.

Buddyc
09-27-2011, 06:33 PM
I will give it a try...thanks Biggie. I started looking at colors again...Eventhough Im a ways off, It gives me the kick in the butt I need to get er done

Buddyc
10-26-2011, 08:36 PM
Was working on the hatch jamb. There is over 45 years of chit built up and it has to come out. Its a thankless job that takes forever. I did about a foot of it in an hour... Time to get more beer!
684456844668447

Buddyc
11-10-2011, 09:21 PM
Been working on glassing the edge of the deck where the rub rail attaches. She was in real bad shape but its finally coming together after alot of work
6861368614686156861668617

Buddyc
11-10-2011, 09:25 PM
I picked up a 5.7L Vortec Longblock. Should be plenty of power for her!
Only problem is getting it off my truck because it is too high. Had to offload it on the boat trailer and bring it in the shop from there. Intake and other parts coming next week so I can get it painted as well...
68618

Buddyc
02-28-2012, 11:15 AM
Sold! I got tired of fixing what was supposed to be done! Thanks to the few that actually were there to help

Carl C
02-28-2012, 12:32 PM
WOW! This project boat is really getting around. I know I'd rather be boating than restoring.

Greg Guimond
02-28-2012, 01:05 PM
One thing for sure is that if you have a timeline you must hit then don't even bother to start the resto. They get done when they get done is the way I have come to look at it.

Buddyc
02-28-2012, 03:07 PM
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She gets around alot Carl. I couldnt agree more about being in the water. You know we may be relocating real soon and I just couldnt take her with me.
Stinkfist!!! Rock on!
Take it easy Carl

Carl C
02-28-2012, 04:25 PM
Still Arizona? That'll be awesome but you'll be looking for a sand rail instead of a boat unless you are near the river.

Buddyc
02-28-2012, 06:37 PM
Saguaro lake is about 30 miles from Scottsdale. I k.ow .nothing bout it at all. Lake Havasu is 3.5 hour drive... too much.
Were also looking into North Carolina. Economy is bad everywhere. Cost of living is high in Nj where I am and my county has one of the highest property tax rate.

Bubba Dog
02-28-2012, 07:17 PM
I'm very familiar with the Raleigh/Durham area. The economy is tough everywhere, but, we are seeing some recovery here. There is allot of competition, and opportunity. Top quality expertise is always in demand. Good size lakes are abundant, there are four within an hour of me, one twenty minutes away. Keep the Mistress and come South.;)

gcarter
02-28-2012, 07:43 PM
Texas!

It's pretty healthy.
It also has lakes, and the Gulf of Mexico.

Buddyc
02-28-2012, 08:04 PM
We need to go where there is a good population of residence. Good schools of course. and not alot of seasonal owners. I have a painting company called We Paint Dreams. We do good quality interior painting from solid colors to intricate Faux finishing. I work with alot of designers up here but to be honest, Im feeling real stale. My Property taxes on a 40 year old home with 3 br is $9000 per year.
In Scottsdale a 5 bedroom house with 3 bath and a pool that is 5 years old, The taxes are $1900...
Just looking for a better life for me and my family

scippy
02-28-2012, 08:09 PM
Buddy good luck on your westward jouney......................I hear ya loud & clear on the property tax thing!
Up 40% since I retired here from Bklyn. almost 10 years ago...........The mag sport project is going to get
done but at a higher cost.......I swear she'll get wet long enough just to say I launched her from the jersey
shore & then maybe go visit Roger Munn in Naples to really retire.

Lively-one
02-28-2012, 11:06 PM
Buddyc,

As George mentioned, you ought to think about Texas...or better yet, in or around Houston, Texas. Things are still rockin pretty good here compared to most places. Real Estate is moving again and one can buy a nice home a lot cheaper than most places. Property taxes are all over the place depending how close in to town you live or what school district you live in. I moved to our current neighborhood mainly due to the school district for the kids (same one my wife and I were in growing up) and taxes are still cheaper than what you described.

Another spot is Katy Texas...basically on the west edge of Houston. Katy has good schools and one can buy alot of home for the money, taxes are low, and is still feels that you are within Houston. Good luck in wherever you go and whatever you do...but at least consider Texas.

zelatore
02-29-2012, 10:47 AM
George is in favor of Texas? I never would have guessed. ;)

A friend of mine in Milwaukee sent me this just Monday. He found it interesting since I live in the SF area and my brother just moved to the Concord area.


The poll surveyed a random sample of 353,492 adults using random-digit-dial sampling during 2011. The maximum margin of sampling error is 1 percentage point.
Here are the top five states in well-being scores:
1. Hawaii
2. North Dakota
3. Minnesota
4. Alaska
5. Utah
The top five large metropolitan areas for well-being scores were:
1. San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, California
2. Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-Virginia-Maryland
3. San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, California
4. Minneapolis-St. Paul-Bloomington, Minnesota-Wisconsin
5. Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord, North Carolina-South Carolina


I might question some of those choices. I also find it odd that none of the top cities are in the top states.

I'm not going to tell you to move to California though. Things are picking up here, but it's no picnic just yet. To tell the truth, we've been doing some work to the house this winter with an eye toward selling this spring/summer. Despite my brother's glowing portrait of the Concord area, I'm not ready to move there just yet. I'm still hooked on the west. I am going to spend a week in Oregon around the Portland area next week though, and I'll be keeping an eye on property while I'm up there....But I can't say anything about what the economy looks like in Portland, we just like the area. Green. With hills. And water.

Carl C
02-29-2012, 12:42 PM
Zelatore, I think that just means that it is not cheap to live there! No surprise that Alaska and Hawaii are on the list since everything must be shipped in. I wish I could afford to live in Hawaii. How much fun would that be :).

JimG
02-29-2012, 01:58 PM
+1!

Come to Texas, no economy issues here! It's kicking...

Ghost
02-29-2012, 03:31 PM
As was said, condolences but congrats on the sale and best of luck with your upcoming move. (Having heard your comments, I think it's a very good and bold call, FWIW.)