joseph m. hahnl
11-27-2010, 06:34 AM
Step outside:mad: You go first, and practice falling down:boggled:
:popcorn:
A Formula 280 only weighs 6200 pounds and full of fuel, it only weighs 7020, but it is 9 feet two inches wide. In some states that's too wide to pull no matter what trailer is under it. Two 6000 pound axles are definetly over kill, unless smuggling gold.
My point exactly, "smuggling gold", which is how I view all of my toys, was accomplished on two axles, not three. Same reason I pull my 22 Classic on a 6000# trailer.
As for the rest of your numbers, sorry, but they are off. Probably due to that extra small block and Bravo Three my boat had.
Here they are: 2008 Formula 280 is 8200#, Fuel is 120G or 750#, Water is 20G or 167#, Holding is 26G or 217#, for a grand total of 9334#. These numbers are all from my owner's info on the boat. But this does not include all of the rest gear on the boat or the actual weight of the trailer, so I think 10-11,000 pounds is about right, and since I had a 12K, two axle, trailer I was in pretty good shape, wide load or not.
Have a nice Thanksgiving.
The weights came directly from the Formula site.
I still don't understand the logic of two axles over three.
Cuda and Gero, please feel free to point out one arrogant statment in any of my posts on this thread, and I will gladly retract it.
I started my first post on this thread with "IMHO" which translates to "In My Humble Opinion". The thread was about tandem versus triple axle trailers. I offered my opinion and suggested a look-see at a welded, tandem aluminum, as an alternative.
Gero, you are the one throwing around names and trying to create a crap storm, not me, so feel free to knock it off whenever you would like.
Cuda, you seem to think you know more about the Formula 280 that I owned and ordered a custom trailer for than I do. You don't.
Simple enough. Now go have your crap storm on your own, because I don't see any reason to play.
You obviously don't know the weight of your own boat. Check Formulaboats.com and get back to me. I owned three different Formulas, so I know a bit about them. My 302 was the Kaama brochure boat.
First of all, the 280 is out of production and not listed on the Formula site.
Secondly, if you look at my original post on the 280, and read it carefully, you will notice that I said I had an extra small block and Bravo 3. That makes it a twin. The 6300# that you are quoting is for a SINGLE small block 280, which wasn't even offered in 2008.
The 2008 brochure, my manual, the specification slick, and Manning all stated that the boat weighs 8200#.
A 302 is not a 280, and I own a 370SS now, so at least I can admit owning multiple Formulas does not make one an expert on the whole line, as I have no clue what the 302 weighs and I can admit it. For what it is worth, the 370SS is 15,100#'s dry, 18,500 #'s wet, so it would really need a triple axle trailer under it, unlike anything I have seen discussed here so far.
Do I need to start taking pictures of the literature? As I have offered to retract any references to arrogance in my posts, can you man up enough to admit I knew my own boat? I would be honored.
Waiting....:popcorn: Camera is next. And please, don't make this a crap storm. No need for it.
Typical. You take your shots and then ask for it not to be a crapstorm.
Owning a bunch of Formulas does in fact make me an expert on them. I can't help you're slow on the uptake.
but not on the 280SS. You had your chance to retract your statments calling me wrong multiple times, even though I don't know how you could order a custom trailer and not know the weight of the boat that was going to be on it. I guess you could, but that isn't how I do things.
Here is the Formula brochure for 2008. The first shot shows the cover, the second shows the splash page for the 280SS and 280 Bowrider, the third shot confirms what I have been saying all along that the SS is 8200#. BTW, the BR is 7300# with a single BB, but the SS could not be ordered that way in 2008.
Are we done now?
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A Formula 280 only weighs 6200 pounds and full of fuel, it only weighs 7020, but it is 9 feet two inches wide. In some states that's too wide to pull no matter what trailer is under it. Two 6000 pound axles are definetly over kill, unless smuggling gold.
My point exactly, "smuggling gold", which is how I view all of my toys, was accomplished on two axles, not three. Same reason I pull my 22 Classic on a 6000# trailer.
As for the rest of your numbers, sorry, but they are off. Probably due to that extra small block and Bravo Three my boat had.
Here they are: 2008 Formula 280 is 8200#, Fuel is 120G or 750#, Water is 20G or 167#, Holding is 26G or 217#, for a grand total of 9334#. These numbers are all from my owner's info on the boat. But this does not include all of the rest gear on the boat or the actual weight of the trailer, so I think 10-11,000 pounds is about right, and since I had a 12K, two axle, trailer I was in pretty good shape, wide load or not.
Have a nice Thanksgiving.
The weights came directly from the Formula site.
I still don't understand the logic of two axles over three.
Cuda and Gero, please feel free to point out one arrogant statment in any of my posts on this thread, and I will gladly retract it.
I started my first post on this thread with "IMHO" which translates to "In My Humble Opinion". The thread was about tandem versus triple axle trailers. I offered my opinion and suggested a look-see at a welded, tandem aluminum, as an alternative.
Gero, you are the one throwing around names and trying to create a crap storm, not me, so feel free to knock it off whenever you would like.
Cuda, you seem to think you know more about the Formula 280 that I owned and ordered a custom trailer for than I do. You don't.
Simple enough. Now go have your crap storm on your own, because I don't see any reason to play.
You obviously don't know the weight of your own boat. Check Formulaboats.com and get back to me. I owned three different Formulas, so I know a bit about them. My 302 was the Kaama brochure boat.
First of all, the 280 is out of production and not listed on the Formula site.
Secondly, if you look at my original post on the 280, and read it carefully, you will notice that I said I had an extra small block and Bravo 3. That makes it a twin. The 6300# that you are quoting is for a SINGLE small block 280, which wasn't even offered in 2008.
The 2008 brochure, my manual, the specification slick, and Manning all stated that the boat weighs 8200#.
A 302 is not a 280, and I own a 370SS now, so at least I can admit owning multiple Formulas does not make one an expert on the whole line, as I have no clue what the 302 weighs and I can admit it. For what it is worth, the 370SS is 15,100#'s dry, 18,500 #'s wet, so it would really need a triple axle trailer under it, unlike anything I have seen discussed here so far.
Do I need to start taking pictures of the literature? As I have offered to retract any references to arrogance in my posts, can you man up enough to admit I knew my own boat? I would be honored.
Waiting....:popcorn: Camera is next. And please, don't make this a crap storm. No need for it.
Typical. You take your shots and then ask for it not to be a crapstorm.
Owning a bunch of Formulas does in fact make me an expert on them. I can't help you're slow on the uptake.
but not on the 280SS. You had your chance to retract your statments calling me wrong multiple times, even though I don't know how you could order a custom trailer and not know the weight of the boat that was going to be on it. I guess you could, but that isn't how I do things.
Here is the Formula brochure for 2008. The first shot shows the cover, the second shows the splash page for the 280SS and 280 Bowrider, the third shot confirms what I have been saying all along that the SS is 8200#. BTW, the BR is 7300# with a single BB, but the SS could not be ordered that way in 2008.
Are we done now?
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