Caffeine and Carburetors

[jl1962]

The local coffee shop is owned by a car enthusiast who runs about 5 or 6 of these each year. Free coffee, breakfast, t-shirts, raffles etc...Tons of nice cars and then a 30 mile (or so) rally through nice, winding roads. Today was just about perfect - crisp, clear and great foliage. I spent the rally slotted behind three 12 cylinder Ferraris and ahead of a pack of newer M3s. Trying to keep up w/ the Ferraris in the straights (in my '66 MGB) was a lot like trying to keep up w/ the 22s during the Dust-off!

Hard to say what the highlite was this month, probably the two original Cobras.

[jl1962]

English

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More English

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Still more

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Some German

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Some Italian

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Even Some American :wink:

[Phil S]

Wow ! Original Cobras ! You sure don't find those very often, much less two ! Very cool.

I used to have a blast doing TSD rallys, and a little bit of autocrossing. Had a 73 TR-6, so I love seeing the English cars.

[jl1962]

Big OLD Ford and a Lincoln

[jl1962]

Pickups and a '42 Harley

[DonziJon]

Some Italian

Always really liked the 246 Dino...the RED one. Technically NOT a Ferrari ..according to the factory..but had the bloodline nevertheless. I almost bought one (A "Driver") maybe 20 years ago. The 246 had a 2.4L V6 making 195 HP. An earlier version had a 2.0L V6 called the 206..

I was (then) 6'1" and 180 pounds and it was a tight fit but reasonable. A "Good" one at the time was about $42K. :wink: DJ

Price NEW in 1972 $14,500.

EDIT: The faired-covered headlight "glass" is missing on this car.
EDIT 2: I correct myself. It seems some were covered and some not.

BTW: There was also A FIAT Dino with the same engine...not so sporty.

[gcarter]

When I read the title, and then saw the Weber carbed SBF, I thought this was going to be about the frustration of setting up said Weber carbs!!!!:nilly: And how much caffiene it took to get the job done.
LOL

[jl1962]

When I read the title, and then saw the Weber carbed SBF, I thought this was going to be about the frustration of setting up said Weber carbs!!!!:nilly: And how much caffiene it took to get the jopb done.
LOL

Good one!
I'm glad I finally learned how to spell "carburetor"!

Here's a few more carbs for you!

[jl1962]

EDIT: The faired-covered headlight "glass" is missing on this car.
EDIT 2: I correct myself. It seems some were covered and some not.



I believe the euro-spec cars had the plexi cover head lights.

The Dino was lovely. What's nice about this event is that it gives those of us w/ "entry level" classics a chance to get close to cars that you don't see every day and which are pretty much not attainable for most of us (myself included)! Here's my MGB getting cozy w/ an alloy-bodied Healey.

[DON N.]

Nice pictures jay. I think the webers would look good on your 16 , i like the sunbeam tiger also , i think they ran a 260 cu. In. . Must be the shoulder is healed up.

[jl1962]

The Sunbeam should have a 260. This one now has a 289 - the owner was very apologetic!

Agreed, the Webers would look good on my 16 and the Cobra would look great in my garage! And while I'm at it, it would be nice to be in the Rolling Stones too!

Shoulder a lot better but still only 75%. I'm into my second week of PT and range of motion and strength slowly returning. Not cleared for fall sailing or even bike riding though. Been restricted to 12 oz.(occasionally 16 oz.)curls!

[DonziJon]

I believe the euro-spec cars had the plexi cover head lights.

The Dino was lovely. What's nice about this event is that it gives those of us w/ "entry level" classics a chance to get close to cars that you don't see every day and which are pretty much not attainable for most of us (myself included)! Here's my MGB getting cozy w/ an alloy-bodied Healey.

My first Heally was a 1956 100-4 like the one in the picture. The center body panel which surrounded the hood and grill, and extended back to the windshield, was aluminum. I found this out went I bent the front center section and tried to get a body shop to hammer it out without using Bondo. The windshield folded down and aft for racing. Mine was a three speed.

I learned much later that when aluminum is "stretched" once, you can't "unstretch" it. :bonk:

There was also an ALL aluminum "Le Mans Heally" with a louvered hood and leather tie down straps. My second Heally was a 1959 100-6, followed by two AH 'Bugeye' Sprites a few years later....with a '63 Jaguar XKE Roadster in between. :wink:

[Conquistador_del_mar]

Always really liked the 246 Dino...the RED one. Technically NOT a Ferrari ..according to the factory..but had the bloodline nevertheless. I almost bought one (A "Driver") maybe 20 years ago. The 246 had a 2.4L V6 making 195 HP. An earlier version had a 2.0L V6 called the 206..

I was (then) 6'1" and 180 pounds and it was a tight fit but reasonable. A "Good" one at the time was about $42K. :wink: DJ

Price NEW in 1972 $14,500.

I came close to buying a Dino in about 1973, but my memory is that it was right at $25,000. I must have gone to the dealership at least 50 times over a year period - so many times that a couple salesmen knew me - lol. I still love the lines on it. I remember that the Pantera was the second best cornering sports car at the time behind the Dino. Bill

[gcarter]

I think I remember the Dino V-6 engine went into at least three different cars....
The dino, of course.
Lancia Stratos rally car.
And a non-descript Fiat sedan.

I think most know the Stratos was NOT a street car....
The Fiat sedan must have been a real sleeper.

[jl1962]

The Fiat Dino was offered either as a 2 dr coupe or a spyder. Not bad looking as a convertible but nowhere near as pretty as a 246.

http://www.google.com/images?q=fiat+dino&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&oe=UTF-8&rlz=1I7ADRA_en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=koi9TLvqAYG88gbj-8D7Bg&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=2&ved=0CCgQsAQwAQ&biw=1659&bih=760

Weather permitting there is one more rally scheduled for early November.

[zelatore]

Jay - I don't rememberm what the shoulder injury was, but I know it takes forever to get over them. My sister-in-law was a gymnast who tore up a shoulder and had corrective surgery. Took forever to get past the post-op PT. Heck, less than 2 months ago I high-sided one of my bikes and busted up a wrist and arm. Now I'm still doing PT trying to get full range of motion back, and haven't been back on a bike since as I'm supposed to stay under 10 lbs with the arm. :mad:

George - Lancia Stratos. mmmmm....tastey! But, truth be told, I'd rather have a replica than a real one (at least for driving). I believe an English outfit used to make 'glass replicas that you could power with either a Fiat twin cam or if you were creative, an Alfa V6 fwd powertrain. In the back, of course... I'll take mine in that funky Italian lime green color from the 70's please!


Of course, for a lot of things I'd rather have a replica. A really good GT40 replica with a stroker turbo'ed aluminum Windsor would maybe be worth a grin or two as well.

[Budmann]

Thanks for the pics Jay!!! Nice job!!!!

[gcarter]

Of course, for a lot of things I'd rather have a replica. A really good GT40 replica with a stroker turbo'ed aluminum Windsor would maybe be worth a grin or two as well.

One of the neat things today is you can own VERY GOOD replicas of "C" and "D" Jags, Daytona coupes, Cheetas, Scarabs, and a few others I can't think of now. For a fraction of what one of the originals would cost, you can own and drive a whole stable full of these fine replicas.
I'd take a useable replica anyday over a museum piece.

[DonziJon]

I have to agree. Three years (?) ago I saw a "C" Jag in a show (I was there with my ARIEL Square 4) that was impecable. The hood was NOT open, The owner was nowhere to be found. Crawling around under the car on the grass....I could not find anything that would suggest that this car was not REAL. .............:nilly: Why was the hood not open...???

[gcarter]

I have to agree. Three years (?) ago I saw a "C" Jag in a show (I was there with my ARIEL Square 4) that was impecable. The hood was NOT open, The owner was nowhere to be found. Crawling around under the car on the grass....I could not find anything that would suggest that this car was not REAL. .............:nilly: Why was the hood not open...???

John, here's a company that builds good SS100 and C-Jags. Both are powered by late model Jag running gear, along w/brakes etc.

http://www.suffolkjaguar.com/

Here's another that builds C's, D's, XKSS, and ligth weight E types.

http://www.lynxmotors.co.uk/

[axelkloehn]

John, here's a company that builds good SS100 and C-Jags. Both are powered by late model Jag running gear, along w/brakes etc.

http://www.suffolkjaguar.com/

Here's another that builds C's, D's, XKSS, and ligth weight E types.

http://www.lynxmotors.co.uk/

saw the Lynx C-Type in person, excellent quality replica.
There is also a Stratos Replica around with Alfa engine, very interesting and original looking. There is nobody selling the real Stratos anymore, so could be an option if you like this beast.

[jl1962]

Just back from today's rally - the last of 2010. 37 degrees this AM but still 120 cars! Unfortunately my battery ran out after about 20 pictures....:bonk:Fortunately - I got at least a few pix of the nicer cars. The highlite? No question - a '63 250 GTO! Yes it's real.... Words cannot describe its sound....Wow.....

[jl1962]

Couple of very nice Alfas. The license plates tell it all.

[jl1962]

Jags and Morgans. The '67 XKE was spectacular. Note the "I Like Ike" sticker on the XK140 - probably original too.

[jl1962]

A Hudson Hornet and an old Indian.

[DonziJon]

Just back from today's rally - the last of 2010. 37 degrees this AM but still 120 cars! Unfortunately my battery ran out after about 20 pictures....:bonk:Fortunately - I got at least a few pix of the nicer cars. The highlite? No question - a '63 250 GTO! Yes it's real.... Words cannot describe its sound....Wow.....

One of only 39 GTOs made. 3.0L..(180 cubic inches), good for well over 180 MPH. Still amazing, even today. Back in my Ferrari Phase of life, a basket GTO was a million dollars. :nilly: In the mid eighties, there were a I think three "used car" dealers in West Palm Beach where you could walk into large showrooms and have your pick of low mileage slightly used "Toys". DJ

[jl1962]

One of only 39 GTOs made. 3.0L..(180 cubic inches), good for well over 180 MPH. Still amazing, even today. Back in my Ferrari Phase of life, a basket GTO was a million dollars. :nilly: In the mid eighties, there were a I think three "used car" dealers in West Palm Beach where you could walk into large showrooms and have your pick of low mileage slightly used "Toys". DJ

I was checking out all the cars today w/ a buddy who is in the business and he thought the GTO was a $15 - $20MM car. One sold in England in May of this year for $12MM pounds.

[DonziJon]

Jags and Morgans. The '67 XKE was spectacular. Note the "I Like Ike" sticker on the XK140 - probably original too.

My '63 XKE (same color grey) had covered headlights. It wasn't long afterward that the US Government decided that covered headlights weren't safe because the headlight beam might get distorted. BTW, those headlight covers were made of laminated safety glass just like a windshield..not plastic. The roadsters far outnumbered the coupes such as the one here. DJ

[McGary911]

Wow, a '63 GTO.....Rarest of the rare. I remember years ago, when Enzo was on his last legs, the Ferrari market was going nuts. Nick Mason (Floyd drummer) paid just over 14 mil for one of those at auction.

I can't imagine seeing one pull up to a parking spot on cruise night (day). That's a special gathering you have the good fortune to be close to......

[oledawg]

The last year or so of the Sunbeam Tiger had a 289, which I think was maybe '66-'67. These are quite a find in good shape and go for $30,000 - $50,000 depending on condition. Not the fastest and still had the Brit electrical glitches of the period, but sound and look good. I keep looking for a "driver" that I can afford, but haven't found that pup yet. :pimp:

[jl1962]

Wow, a '63 GTO.....
I can't imagine seeing one pull up to a parking spot on cruise night (day). That's a special gathering you have the good fortune to be close to......

In 2010 - we had a new Gullwing AMG Mercedes, a McClaren SLR, a Bugatti Veyron, several original Cobras, an awesome late 40's (?) Mille Miglia Lancia that was once owned by the Berreta family but the GTO will be tough to top! Insane.

To his credit, the owner and his wife actually participated in the rally although they did wear earplugs! I probably would've done the same - it was pretty loud!

All done for 2010.

Here's the website www.caffeineandcarburetors.com (http://www.caffeineandcarburetors.com)

[gcarter]

I posted this before, but in '63 or so, I had a chance to buy John Mecom Jr's GTO for $5,500.00 including spares...engine, trans, etc.
There it was, about 2 miles from my house, I just needed the money. :frown:

[DonziJon]

I posted this before, but in '63 or so, I had a chance to buy John Mecom Jr's GTO for $5,500.00 including spares...engine, trans, etc.
There it was, about 2 miles from my house, I just needed the money. :frown:

George: Lets face it. We didn't have ebay then. If it had showed up on ebay you would have bought it on the spot and now you would be a millionaire. :bonk: DJ

[Cuda]

Wow ! Original Cobras ! You sure don't find those very often, much less two ! Very cool.
I used to have a blast doing TSD rallys, and a little bit of autocrossing. Had a 73 TR-6, so I love seeing the English cars.

The favorite car I ever owned was a 1971 TR6.

[Cuda]

Nice pictures jay. I think the webers would look good on your 16 , i like the sunbeam tiger also , i think they ran a 260 cu. In. . Must be the shoulder is healed up.
The Tigers I saw had HiPo 289's.

[jl1962]

ttt for 2011!

Yesterday was the first of 6 scheduled Caffiene and Carburetors for 2011. While far from a nice day, at least it didn't rain. And there were still about 140 cars, trucks, bikes in attendance.

Those "in the know" suggested that this 1956 Arnolt Bristol 2-Litre was Best in Show. Alloy bodied and Bertone designed, hard to disagree. This same owner also brought his Mille Miglia Lancia to an event last year.

[jl1962]

My own favorites were the ones I usually like - Italian, 1960's. Here's another Dino, a Miura and a Lusso. Without any sun light, the colors don't really pop, but the Dino was a knockout.

[jl1962]

The Lambo and the Lusso

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Always Lots of Porsches. The owner of the coffee shop is a Porsche guy and one of these events from 2010 made the November cover of the PCA magazine.

[jl1962]

A really cool Lancia
My trusty MGB is in the background.

[jl1962]

A '59 VW Beetle Convertible

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A few E-types

The 6 carbs are from a 12 cylinder car (of course)

[jl1962]

Other random images

[BUIZILLA]

my dad had a new '63 grey/red S90 coupe like the conv shown... those nipple hubcaps were only on S90's or 1600's that year,,, I think.. :convertib:

[jl1962]

Vettes and Elans and a Healy

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BIG Buick woody wagon - with period fly rods to match!

[jl1962]

Some Packards, a Riviera, a Lincoln and an Olds

[jl1962]

One more for Jim, a 70s cocoa 911 and a 959

[McGary911]

Love those Miuras. They look so mean and low close up. Is that an S?

Wow. That a real 959? I remember when they came out, they couldn't get any kind of permission to even start them. I think maybe it was Steve Jobs that had one stranded in a warehouse in Oakland, that fell into some kind of free trade zone that was exempt from the restriction....memory is very foggy there. Think Otis Chandler had one too, but he had to get permission from the EPA or something to even start it on his property.

I think the 959s shipped to the US had a very small lip spoiler at the bottom of the big basket handle spoiler.

[jl1962]

Miura -I don't have a picture of the back of the car, but I recall that it was not an "S".

959 - I think it was Bill Gates (maybe Jobs had one too!).
I remember DOT wanted them to crash test one - Still don't know how that was ever resolved.

[Tony]

Great pics, Jay, thanks for posting!

[jl1962]

Another (rainy) day, another caffeine fueled rally. A misty drizzle kept the turnout low, but still some cool cars.

This 1955 Moretti occupied the place reserved for the nicest car. At first I thought it was an AC or a Cobra until I got closer.

[jl1962]

1958 Corvette. Panama Yellow.

[jl1962]

A Ford tilt bed pick up. Note the plaque. Some of you boating historians already know that this was Gar Wood's first business success.

[jl1962]

Big old Chrysler 300B

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Misc. British

[oledawg]

Since my Donzi and others in my "fleet" only occupy my time and $ about half the year I found another "hole" in which to pour my $....but it is a beautiful "ole cat"....a 1990 Jaguar XJS convertible V12. Not a concours car, but a great driver....just put a performance exhaust system on it and next week it goes in the shop for cooling/fuel injection/air intake upgrades. :wink:

[Conquistador_del_mar]

Thank you for all the wonderful pictures! There are many dream cars you have shown including a few that I hope to buy some day.
My car collection has dwindled to a 1986 Jaguar racing green XJ6, a 1987 red Jaguar XJS coupe, and a replica 1965 Shelby Cobra 427SC painted in Corvette millenium yellow shown here in a youtube video I made a couple months ago. Bill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQl68UbkLTU

[jl1962]

Happy to do it!

Here's a few more.

Maserati Ghibli, a nice '64 356 C and a cool Elan coupe (26R???)

Nice Cobra. Got any videos of it running? :yes:

[Conquistador_del_mar]

Happy to do it!

Here's a few more.

Maserati Ghibli, a nice '64 356 C and a cool Elan coupe (26R???)

Nice Cobra. Got any videos of it running? :yes:

I had forgotten how much the Ghibli reminds me of the Pantera - very nice lines. Yes, I took a video of the Cobra running, but I need to take a better one before loading it to youtube. I might get with a professional who asked to take some videos the last time I was out in it. Bill

[jl1962]

Haven't posted in a while. Since the site upgrade, I can't quite figure how to upload a lot of pictures.
Anywho........two weeks ago was the final C&C of 2011. We had awesome weather and 303 cars! Here's some highlights.

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I'm pretty jaded after several years of these events, but the quality of cars was just staggering.

[jl1962]

Here's a 96 year old Harley. It was leaking a little. I will be too when I reach that age...................

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Some nice Corvettes

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A few Lancias:

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A 3.0 CSL and a beautiful 2002:
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A '55 El Dorado:

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From BIG Caddies, to tiny Abarth Fiats (my Dad who is 5'6" for scale), a 2CV and a Mini Moke.

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A way cool Chevy Nomad:

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Bikes:

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And a bike. Lady rode in on a 50's Schwinn bicycle with pictures of her on it as a girl. Hey, it's a Hornet! Not a bench seat though. Very Cool!

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[jl1962]

Always old Porsches:

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A Gullwing:

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My friend's Daytona and a 288 GTO:

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1930s BMW 328 (I think)

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Some Alfas (only one of them in red!):

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Misc American:

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Elans and the B:

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Thanks for indulging me. Can't wait till next year.
:)

[Ghost]

These are WAY cool, thanks for posting. So much good stuff, I don't even know what I like best... -Mike

[gcarter]

I love the 328!!!! I've only seen a couple of them in my life.

Is t hat your MGB next to the Ferrari?
If so, was that intimidating?

[jl1962]

The '66 MGB is mine. No, not intimidating, in fact the opposite (except on the staightaways!). Older cars get much more attention. There were a handful of new 458s and they hardly got a second look! There was even a Bugatti Veyron and aside from the curiosity factor, all I heard was that it looked like a nuclear powered cockroach! Maybe I'm just jealous! Nah..................

I have lots of favorites from the almost accessible (for me) Lotus Elans to the ain't ever gonna happen alloy-bodied Ferrari 275 GTB - WOW

It's just amazing how this has grown as a word of mouth, Sunday morning, get a cup of coffee type event. It remains really low key.

[zelatore]

Very nice yellow GTV. I should be able to tell you the year from the headlights/grill, but I'm out of practice. I'm going with '70. I'm going to have to get one of those for myself one of these days.

[McGary911]

Everytime this thread pops to the top, I always hope there are more pics......the drool factor is just insane at these events. So tough to pick a favorite. I love the Porsches, but that 288 GTO is pretty sweet as well.........

[jl1962]

A few more for an encore:

Packard Eight and a Packard Twelve. (Different months, same parking space)

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A DB6, a DB5 (both RHD), a Cobra (supposedly real) and a 300 SL

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Finally..................one in every crowd.

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[gcarter]

I keep thinking about what to do when I sell the TR.......
I keep making lists........ and then changing them:
The first streetable bike I ever owned was a 1950 BMW R-25 that had been brought back from Germany by a GI. I bought it in 1960 for $100.00 just before my 16th birthday. One day I was riding it and saw a 1950 BMW 328 that had been brought back from Germany by a GI.......he was stopped in a parking lot and I started up a conversation w/him. It was an absolutely beautiful car, every bit a s pretty as the one in the pictures above. Of course it was only 10 years old at the time. I've wanted one ever since. If you're not familiar w/them, they had a jewel like 6 cylinder engine w/a high cam, and cross over push rods that made the engine look like it had two over head cams. The three Solex carbs fed the intake ports straight down the miuddle of the head from the top. It made for a pretty tall engine, but it produced over 120 HP from 2L even w/only 7:1 CR. The engine was given to the British auto industry for war reparations and used in a number of post war British cars. Among them was all Bristols, many AC's, Frazer-Nash, and others including the Arnolt Bristol Bolide.
Another would be a '65 Jag E-Type Series 1, Mark II coupe.
How about a pre war MG race car?
A Maserati 3500 GT.
Maybe an early pagoda roofed MB.
I could even learn a bit from Don about Alfa's.

[zelatore]

I know the TR is turning out nice and all, but if you want a 328 you'd better be ready to bring the coin - those things are crazy money these days!

The Jag coupe would be high on my list of 'one day' cars. But I'm a little scared of them. Seems...complicated.

The Alfa GTVs are still reasonably affordable and can be anything from a driver to a track car to a collectible just depending on what model and how you want do do it. Parts are mostly available, and they're pretty straight forward for doing your own work. Plus, the Alfa twin-cam may be the best sounding small bore motor ever! The Bertone body isn't hard on the eyes either. :wink:

[tmh]

I would like an early XKE coupe and I also love the MK 2 sedans. Finding a mint car that was recently restored will probably be the cheapest in the long run. You could by the nice $25k car and put another $25 k in it or buy the nicely restored car for $40k.

[Ghost]

To lob in a data point, FWIW, my '03 Porsche had the best quality build of any car I've ever owned, by far. Everything fit. Nothing broke. Nothing rattled. Nothing squeaked. Ran great. I never should have sold it.

[gcarter]

Don is correct about 328 pricing!!
I just checked my "Sports Car Market" Pocket Price Guide and the values are between $200K-$300K so my chances of ownership are probably pretty small. But it is an "A" investment grade.
A few years ago, I saw an "EMW" 327 for sale in Hemmings. I called the guy and asked him what exactly it was. He explained the BMW plant in Eisenach ended up in East Germany and their products were labeled "EMW" or "Eisenach Motorren Werke" or something like that.
Anyway, this guy was having trouble selling this car......Another one that got away.

[jl1962]

TTT in 2012!

Just back from the first C&C of the year. Great weather and about 200 cars and bikes.

The featured car was this '69 Yenko Camaro w/ a 427. Enjoy - will post more later.

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[jl1962]

More Camaros: a Z 28 and a Rally Sport.

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Some GT 40s

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Old Ferraris

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'64 Superfast

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'67 330 GTC and a '67 275 GTB.

1967 was a good year for Donzi too!

;)

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[jl1962]

Lots of old bikes

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1934 Morgan 3 wheeler

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Misc Brit:

A Daimler Dart, a Triumph 250 TR, some Sprites, a TR4A, a nice MGB- not mine

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[jl1962]

Alpha Romeo Giulia SS



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[jl1962]

I'll close on an artistic note: dogwood blossoms (I think) collecting in the spoiler of the Miura. The stuff was coming down like confetti!


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[CHACHI]

Jay, I was on Woorcester St in New Haven over the weekend and it was a snowstorm all afternoon.

Ken

[zelatore]

I continue to be impressed with the number of cars you draw for what I assume is just an informal get together. Sort of like what we get at Alice's Restaurant on the weekends for bikes. Nothing formal, but every weekend in the summer the place is standing room only.

(now I'm wishing I lived closer and could hang out there)

Thanks for throwing in the (ahem) Alfa. The S/S cars were somewhat odd - Very cool looking, but technically a dead-end since the had no racing/performance advantage. They do bring more money than the standard 750 or 101 Giulietta or Giulia though. I've never driven one - I understand the aero treatment makes them pretty quite compared to the standard cars. You know...if you're into that sort of thing in your 50 year old small-bore Italian sportscar!


(Mike, I tried to be gentle!)


BTW, speaking of special bodied Alfas are you familier with the Disco Volante? Aero excercises done in the early 50's and worth crazy money now (also credited with inspiring the Jag E-type 10 years later). And for even crazier money, you can get a new version done on the current 8C platform. It is dead-sexy though, and if I was in command of Crazy Money, you can bet I'd be having one built!

http://jalopnik.com/5891070/carrozzerias-alfa-romeo-8c+based-disco-volante-is-desperately-beautiful

[Ghost]

Love the pics, really amazing for a casual meet.

Speaking of similarities across car makes, the Giulia SS strikes me as having a good bit of Gullwing Mercedes to it, no?

Had to look up the Disco Volante so I'm grabbing a shot now, for posterity.

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[jl1962]

A few more Alfas, a Lancia, a de Tomaso something or other and a nice '63 Beetle to keep it real.

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It is by and large a casual and informal event but there are dealers present also. Most of the cars are privately owned and most of these people own more than one. I've tried not to post a car more than once and it is staggering how there are always cars making their first show.

I will miss the May and June rallys so this will be it until September.

Glad you guys like 'em as much as I enjoy going.

Zel - As soon as I had posted "Alpha", I knew it was wrong, but it's such a cool car - it really is an Alpha Alfa!

[BUIZILLA]

do I spy a Tii in there ;)

[jl1962]

The Golf Yellow car isn't, the Baikal Blue is. Both roundies though. And here's a 2800 CS too. A buddy in the business says he can't buy E9 coupes fast enough. I think I've posted these cars before, but they still look great!

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[zelatore]

Well, if we're going to play the 'I spy' game...

I spy a 164 and a GTV6

In fact, the GTV6 looks a lot like my last one. Although mine had a little work done to it in the form of a 3.0 and some suspension mods.

[Ed Donnelly]

That would be a De Tomaso Longchamp. Almost traded the Pantera for one in the 80's..................Ed

[jl1962]

Winner, winner, chicken dinner.
Ed is correct.

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There was a GTV 6 of which I don't have a better picture. There was a cool 2 door Volvo coupe from the '70s - probably a 242. It was an nice aqua blue, but I don't have a picture.

[BUIZILLA]

the 2800CS is a cool cult car, I could seriously see myself owning one of those, especially white w/dk blue guts

[RockyS18]

Wow. :yes: talk about some sick cars!

A friend recommended that Caffeine and Carburetors to me, I'm thinking of going sometime this year.

[jl1962]

They are on Facebook.

http://www.facebook.com/CaffeineandCarburetors

Next rally is 5/20, one after is 6/17 (Father's Day) and conflicts w/ the Dust-Off.

[jl1962]

Looooooong winter officially over in the north east.

Nearly 400 cars today!

As always a great mix of new and old, ordinary and extraordinary, attainable, unattainable and fuhgedddaboutit!

Let's start w/ the unobtanium:

A 1959 Ferrari LWB California Spyder. Just like in Ferris Bueller but this one is real and supposedly all original and unrestored. It was hard to get a good picture b/c people were hanging all over it. Sounded great driving in!

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[jl1962]

More Unobtainium

O.S.C.A Maserati: Car will be shipped to Italy in a few weeks for the Mille Miglia

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[jl1962]

Beautiful M1

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Couple of nice 1600/02 convertibles and nice E9 Coupes

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BIG Pontiac wagon and a beautiful Impala

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Pontiac Tempest and Ford Falcon Convertible

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Bristol, Lancia and Daimler Dart

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[BUIZILLA]

I would sell an appendage for that silver CS....

[jl1962]

Nice Alfa, Fiat and (very friendly) dogs w/ goggles in Morgan

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[jl1962]

Lotsa vanity plates

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More

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[Greg Guimond]

Great shots, thanks for sharing! Some nice iron on all counts :wavey:

[jl1962]

Still more.....

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Tired yet?

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[jl1962]

You get the idea......

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[Greg Guimond]

Gotta love Bull Run on the Lambo! Any E28 M5's in the mix?

[jl1962]

Some Bugeyes (mine is the teal car between the Elan and the Landy)

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[jl1962]

Gotta love Bull Run on the Lambo! Any E28 M5's in the mix?


Yeah those Lambo, Vette and Mustang guys are kind of shy ;)

There WAS an E28 M5 and i was going to get a picture, but got distracted :doh:!

The next C&C is May 19 - hopefully it'll be back.

[Ed Donnelly]

Kinda like that Bug Eye....Ed

[jl1962]

A little drizzly here in CT but I finally made it back to a C&C rally. The weather undoubtedly kept a few cars home, but plenty of nice ones showed up. And it was kind of nice to "only" have 100 or so cars instead of the 300 or so the event is drawing on nice days!

I'll start out w/ a few Bimmers for Jim!
A Batwing CSL, a Malaga CSi and an Inka M1

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[jl1962]

As for diversity, where else can you find an Enzo parked a few cars away from an '81 Trabant?
And they both drew equal attention! Well, almost ;)

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[jl1962]

Here's a very nice 356 GS.
I'm not enough of a Porsche-phile to know what the last two letters mean, but suspect they are expensive......

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[jl1962]

Misc. English

Landys (a good day for Land Rovers!), Morgans (with goggle wearing dogs), Jags, Healys, MGAs

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[jl1962]

A nice Pantera and a nice Alfa

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Ford Galaxie and Pink Eldo

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[BUIZILLA]

that orange beemer looks exactly like a 2002Tii I once had...

if that silver 3.0CS shows again up there, my wallet will go in convulsions, so give me due warning ;)

[Ghost]

Great stuff, thanks. I always enjoy these.

[jl1962]

Misc. American

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[jl1962]

Bugeye and Bombers!

No, the two events are not affiliated. But yesterday my son and I took a ride on a B-24 through an organization called the Colling's Foundation. www.CollingsFoundation.org (http://www.CollingsFoundation.org)

Only about 25 minutes of actual flying time, but it was awesome (and LOUD, about 100dBs!).
We were belted in at take-off and landing but could crawl (literally in some places) around the plane nose to tail once airborne.

We took off out of White Plains and headed west to the Tappan Zee. Turned north up the Hudson, turned east at the Bear Mountain Bridge and back to HPN. All at about 1000' w/ great foliage. A great afternoon for any warbirds enthusiast.

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[Conquistador_del_mar]

Your pictures are always a treat! Seeing the LRs, here is a 1964 LR 88" that I restored a few years ago that was in horrible shape when I bought it. The body is all aluminum.

[mike o]

That B24 ride must have been way cool. My father flew in those from N Africa over the heavily defended Ploesti oil fields Romania in WW2. The B24 was "tender" compared to the B17

[jl1962]

Mike, my son (a self-appointed Ploesti expert) always says those were among the toughest missions.

I can't imagine being on one of those things for 10+ hours, in the cold, in the dark, getting shot at etc.....And if you made it home, you got to go back the next day!

[jl1962]

Bill-
Nice Land Rover, you always do great work.
were they all aluminum?

[gcarter]

Here's a very nice 356 GS.
I'm not enough of a Porsche-phile to know what the last two letters mean, but suspect they are expensive......

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I think all 356's that aren't rusted out are expensive.......
All the Brits in your pictures look spectacular!
Congrats on the B-24 ride.
My father was a bit too old (about 30) to fly during WW-II. Instead, he was a civilian flight instructor. He had the opportunity to teach about five cadets everything he knew about every 90 days or so.

[Conquistador_del_mar]

Bill-
Nice Land Rover, you always do great work.
were they all aluminum?

I know the body was aluminum, and I think the dash and many interior structure parts were also aluminum. It was a real labor of love, but not too expensive since many of the parts were available aftermarket, but not all of the parts. The man I sold it to doubled his money selling it on Ebay - :frown:

[jl1962]

I've made it to a few Caffeine and Carburetors in the past 18 months or so, but I'm guilty of not taking pictures - sue me!

But I made it to the first of the year today and took about 150 photos until my battery ran out. A spectacular day in the north east and everyone w/ a nice car was out. The event has gotten both bigger and smaller. C&C attracts close to 1000 vehicles on a good day and the Town has pushed back a bit as the roads are absolutely jammed (with a lot of nice cars), but it is almost impossible to get around. As a compromise, two events will be held in town each year, down from six, and two more are held just out of downtown at an estate that was donated to the Town many decades ago by the family of actor Christopher Lloyd.

This event has grown, largely by word of mouth, and now social media, from the pattern of taking the nice car out for Sunday coffee. What used to be 10 or 20 or several dozen cars now sees hundred of cars from all around and neighboring states. While 1 or 2 blocks used to contain all the cars, it is now the entire downtown w/ cool cars everywhere, lots of walking! - first world problems........

I'll start out w/ all the license plates, because they crack me up, enjoy -

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[jl1962]

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The oligarch standing next to me told me that "Kotik" mean pu$$ycat (I had to edit that word) in Russian - I'll take his word for it.

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Bunch of old VWs

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Alfa vs. Unimog?

Take the Alfa, but get points!

[jl1962]

Best prom-posal ever?
My 17 year old daughter (that's not her) thinks so......

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I told my son (that's not him) to start saving up for his own Trabant!

[jl1962]

Trucks
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Some Favorites
1958 Eldorado
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[jl1962]

1940 Packard

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Alfa vs. Fulvia - Pick 'em

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XKEs and a Mark V

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Isetta and Renault Alpine

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Into the higher rent district
330 GTS

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Alfa Giulia SS (obstructed)
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and another Alfa. Not sure what it is, other than beautiful
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[jl1962]

And the show stopper, not one, but two Maserati 300s.
In case you wanted a His and Her.
Or maybe you wanted to see how it would look with and without the driver head fairing.
I believe 26 were made. Here are two.
Wow.

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[olredalert]

----These two Maseratis actually don't have a value, in a way. They are so rare that there is no way to rate them other than "a whole lot".......Bill S

[gcarter]

----These two Maseratis actually don't have a value, in a way. They are so rare that there is no way to rate them other than "a whole lot".......Bill S
Or what some very wealthy person is willing to pay.

[jl1962]

Definitely a bit surreal walking around cars like that (and a half dozen others at the show). As Bob Dylan says - Money doesn't talk, it swears!

One of the great aspects of this event is that these cars aren't roped off, but rather right there on the street near all the hustle and bustle. They even get driven in and driven out. It's great to see them, hear them, smell them as cars, not just as works of art. And of course, there is the jumble of the ordinary and the extraordinary side by side. The kid with the Trabant was about 10 cars away and he was having a blast and posing for as many, or more pictures than the unobtanium autos.

In the six years or so I've been attending this show, I think I've seen just about one of everything. It's a great treat to see them out and about, one day they won't be.

Here's a few more ordinary, but still cool cars. :cool!:
Peace!

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[Carl C]

I had a friend years ago who had two of those 3 wheeled Isettas. I haven't seen one in ages.

[gcarter]

I had a friend years ago who had two of those 3 wheeled Isettas. I haven't seen one in ages.

Two nice ones may be worth what your boat is!:nilly:

[jl1962]

I can't say I really "get" Isettas.
Or why a nice one cost 2X what a nice 2002 would be.
They really are a curiosity.
A lowly Beetle would seem to make so much more sense at that time in history.
I wonder if in 50 years Smart Cars will be sought after. Not by me!

A few more Bimmers

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