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oledawg
10-02-2010, 04:49 PM
Man, I hate props! :shocking: Just bought one on eBay and guess that I didn't ask all of the right questions. Got the thing, a 25P Mirage Plus and opened the box......no splines? Is there some sort of insert that can go inside this prop? My other props, a Mirage 27P and a labbed who knows what brand 23P have splines and drop right on the shaft.....

Have I been shafted? :confused:

axelkloehn
10-02-2010, 05:02 PM
may be you need a flo-torq hub kit, does it look like a rounded square inside?

oledawg
10-02-2010, 07:13 PM
Basically round with 4 bumps that could be called "square".

craigdskilling
10-02-2010, 07:39 PM
No you did't get hosed.go to any marine and ask for the hub.I also did the same thing.it cost's about $50 and they just hammer it in.:wink:

axelkloehn
10-03-2010, 12:47 PM
Basically round with 4 bumps that could be called "square".

flo-torq. Just make sure you get the hub which matches your engine power... there is a kit for less than 400hp and one for more than 400hp- if you have close to or more than 400 get the strong one! It would be much more than 50$ in our country!

oledawg
10-03-2010, 04:13 PM
Think that I found the right one.... # 84-4413 Bravo One 400 HP + $65 at WMJ Marine.....

I will get my boat guy to check it out and if correct order it.

DonZi 26
10-03-2010, 04:53 PM
just make sure to get the rubber flo-torque hub, coz if u get a solid hub and your idle is set abit high you may screw your drive shaft!

with the rubber one, if that happens you just damage the rubber hub...and all that you would need to do is replace it and call it a day.....

good luck

oledawg
10-03-2010, 05:07 PM
Best that I can tell, it is rubber, but I will have my guy check it out....thanks.

craigdskilling
10-03-2010, 05:25 PM
that's what i got.i am pushing 400+ no problem.

HIGH LIFE
10-04-2010, 12:23 AM
I have a pair of 300X Mercs, and the composite hubs work fine, cost less than $50, the metal hubs cost app. $300 ea. "HIGH LIFE"

Greg Guimond
10-04-2010, 09:00 AM
Here you go .........

VetteLT193
10-04-2010, 11:50 AM
They aren't rubber anymore. It's hard plastic, that part that is pointed out as 'Delrin'.

It is an odd setup compared to the old style but they do work fine.

Greg Guimond
10-06-2010, 08:53 PM
For 1" shaft size there are two options, Delrin and Low Grade Metal for $45 and $75. For the 1.25" shaft size the only option is the HD All Steel hub for around $160.

oledawg
10-06-2010, 09:08 PM
OK, short of pulling my current prop on the Bravo One and measuring the shaft, is there a way to know what size the shaft is? :wink:

oledawg
10-07-2010, 11:47 PM
I just noticed that you can get a new 4 or 5 blade prop for the Bravo One for about $650. What is the advantage over the fairly standard 3 blade? Pros/Cons? :lookaroun:

axelkloehn
10-08-2010, 03:13 AM
they "bite" better!

Greg Guimond
10-08-2010, 07:13 AM
Save yourself a bunch of money on the 5. There are two Turbo TXP-4's for sale used right now out there. These are the Turbo's built by Precision Propellor. The thing I found interesting was that one of them claims to have the PVS holes in the lower hub. I did not know that the TXP came this way. One wheel is $300 and one is $390. I have no idea if that is a good price or not but I'm sure someone on the forum does.

AndyDiSario
10-22-2010, 11:43 AM
I tried a Bravo I 26" pitch on the Sportmaster gear case of the Promax 225X outboard on my Donzi 16 Classic. It has the most amazing bite (traction) I have ever experienced with any propeller (or impeller) in any boat (or PWC). With it, I can lift the motor all the way up on the jackplate (6" from bottom) and pull a holeshot with no ventilation nor over-reving whatsoever. No other prop I've tried comes close to doing this.

The downside is acceleration was just awful with this 26" prop,which had no vent holes either. Fastest speeds I could get was 5200 RPM (redline is 6500) and about 64.5 mph GPS, before chine-walking ended my runs.

I have considered buying a 24"-pitch Bravo, trying it first, then maybe having it drilled for vent holes for better acceleration if needed, however I will hold off at least for the time being. I hope to buy a Precision Turbo Fusion 4 24" instead. If you happen to want to purchase a Bravo I 24", I can get you one for just $489 new. I may be interested in payng shipping if you will let me try the prop briefly first in freshwater.

As recommended to me by Greg and others, a 4-blade prop works best for our high-performance Donzis. Over and over I am told by those more knowledgable than myself to stay away from 5-blade propellers.

Contact me if you wish.
Andy DiSario
DiSario@bellsouth.net
561-479-0578

oledawg
10-22-2010, 12:07 PM
I use a 4 blade on my Correct Craft inboard for that very reason, gives an awesome "hole shot", which is what you want for skiing/wake boarding. Don't necessarily need top end. My 454 PCM that is basically stock with 330 hp will pull 4 skiers up in a heartbeat and the top end is a leisurely 45 mph, which really is not bad for a 4,000 pound boat :wink:

VetteLT193
10-22-2010, 02:52 PM
I tried a Bravo I 26" pitch on the Sportmaster gear case of the Promax 225X outboard on my Donzi 16 Classic. It has the most amazing bite (traction) I have ever experienced with any propeller (or impeller) in any boat (or PWC). With it, I can lift the motor all the way up on the jackplate (6" from bottom) and pull a holeshot with no ventilation nor over-reving whatsoever. No other prop I've tried comes close to doing this.

The downside is acceleration was just awful with this 26" prop,which had no vent holes either. Fastest speeds I could get was 5200 RPM (redline is 6500) and about 64.5 mph GPS, before chine-walking ended my runs.

I have considered buying a 24"-pitch Bravo, trying it first, then maybe having it drilled for vent holes for better acceleration if needed, however I will hold off at least for the time being. I hope to buy a Precision Turbo Fusion 4 24" instead. If you happen to want to purchase a Bravo I 24", I can get you one for just $489 new. I may be interested in payng shipping if you will let me try the prop briefly first in freshwater.

As recommended to me by Greg and others, a 4-blade prop works best for our high-performance Donzis. Over and over I am told by those more knowledgable than myself to stay away from 5-blade propellers.

Contact me if you wish.
Andy DiSario
DiSario@bellsouth.net
561-479-0578

You should be able to just buy a 24 with vent holes... I have a set with them.

The bravo vs the Mirage for hole shot is not in the same zip code. I have one more set of Mirage's to try before I give up on them.