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Selenium
09-21-2010, 02:18 PM
Brand new 09 never seen the water except at the factory. Asking 60K comes with trailer. Good deal?

On the 22 Classic 009 Edition, an aggressively-styled high performance engine
hatch with a molded fiberglass scoop conceals a single 496 HO installed with a
raised X-dimension, propelling this latest iteration of Donzi's venerable icon
to the 80 mph mark. Other unique features of the 22 Classic 009 include a custom
carbon fiber dash panel, leather-wrapped steering wheel with 009 insignia,
authentic throwback racing graphics, a center-fill fuel cap, and a commemorative
dash plaque. Only 18 22 Classic 009s will be offered.

Tidbart
09-21-2010, 05:18 PM
My understanding is that dealers must keep a price at a certain level for a year on a new boat. Then they can get what they can for it. There will be others to confirm or deny this. With that said, it has been on a dealer lot for quite some time.......

With the market an economy..... I would guess you get a lot lower, but at the very least I would try. JMHO

Sounds like a great boat.

B

Carl C
09-21-2010, 06:01 PM
It sounds like a decent price and these are very attractive boats. One problem is that Donzi made so many "special editions" that they really don't hold much value over a standard 22C so don't buy it hoping that it will become collectible. Also, I'm not a fan of the 496 engine but there are solutions to that. If you really like the boat, buy it. If this is in a dealer's stock they may be motivated....

mrfixxall
09-21-2010, 06:04 PM
Brand new 09 never seen the water except at the factory. Asking 60K comes with trailer. Good deal?

On the 22 Classic 009 Edition, an aggressively-styled high performance engine
hatch with a molded fiberglass scoop conceals a single 496 HO installed with a
raised X-dimension, propelling this latest iteration of Donzi's venerable icon
to the 80 mph mark. Other unique features of the 22 Classic 009 include a custom
carbon fiber dash panel, leather-wrapped steering wheel with 009 insignia,
authentic throwback racing graphics, a center-fill fuel cap, and a commemorative
dash plaque. Only 18 22 Classic 009s will be offered.

if i were to spend 60 k on a boat it would be a much larger one like a zr or a zx..

Donziweasel
09-21-2010, 06:06 PM
Good deal, BUT, the 496 is about extinct. Any new boats will be built with the new 502.

Between a 009 and a Shelby, I would try and find a Shelby. Same X, engine, etc....., but I think the Shelby looks better. Just a matter of preference. There was a chery one on ebay recently, ,might still be there.

Selenium
09-21-2010, 06:22 PM
This 22C 009 has been on their lot for about 1 yr. Retail for 85K, they got it for over 70K (who really knows).

I'm also looking into a 06 27' ZR for 50K.

Looked at a couple 28 ZX that didn't panned out.

Tidbart
09-21-2010, 09:03 PM
If you want a 22, after looking at others, look at George's boat. It will be twice the boat from the factory.

http://www.donzi.net/forums/showthread.php?t=50476

Greg Guimond
09-21-2010, 10:08 PM
Agree, and you would have a "1 of 1" with Mr. Carter's ..................

Planetwarmer
09-21-2010, 11:18 PM
Either George's boat, or a Shelby. I think anything Shelby will go up in value once he passes. You have 2 markets that will look at a Donzi Shelby edition, the boaters and the Shelby enthusiasts. If I had the $$$ to buy a Shelby boat, I would jump on it and keep it all original. I would also send something from the boat and have him sign it. You just have to make a donation to his charity.

I believe, that the 22C is the only boat with Shelby's name on it.:convertib::boat:

RickSE
09-22-2010, 11:49 AM
Is this the one in TX? Last I saw it was at $58K on a steel Myco trailer. This is a pretty good deal when you consider the wholesale cost of the boat & trailer. Maybe it's not as good of a deal when you compare it to the used market but then this boat is brand new and not used. If I was in the market for a new 22 I'd seriously consider this boat.

Carl C
09-22-2010, 12:04 PM
Either George's boat, or a Shelby. I think anything Shelby will go up in value once he passes. You have 2 markets that will look at a Donzi Shelby edition, the boaters and the Shelby enthusiasts. If I had the $$$ to buy a Shelby boat, I would jump on it and keep it all original. I would also send something from the boat and have him sign it. You just have to make a donation to his charity.

I believe, that the 22C is the only boat with Shelby's name on it.:convertib::boat:

Normally I would agree with that but usually the Shelby name is synonymous with performance enhancements which this boat does not have other than the raised "X". The aluminum fairing can be ordered on any 22C. This boat should have had special power and drive. I don't think the Shelby's will hold any increased value. Oh, and as a flea market dealer, I can tell you that autographs are routinely forged. JMO.

gcarter
09-22-2010, 12:09 PM
Normally I would agree with that but usually the Shelby name is synonymous with performance enhancements which this boat does not have other than the raised "X". The aluminum fairing can be ordered on any 22C. This boat should have had special power and drive. I don't think the Shelby's will hold any increased value. Oh, and as a flea market dealer, I can tell you that autographs are routinely forged. JMO.

You'll have to pay Shelby for his signature. Even at a car show, folks will line up and he says the money goes to his children's fund, but there's a price involved.

VetteLT193
09-22-2010, 12:29 PM
The Shelby 22 outsold all other Donzi classics combined during the first 10 months of production. They got it right with that boat. The hatch is downright sexy. The boat just has "the look".

In the long run I think a well maintained, unmolested, and clean Shelby will hold its value better than the other classics... special editions included.

The 009 boats just don't have the appeal. If you personally like it... great, go for it. In my personal opinion the 009 is the ugliest special edition they have ever come up with. To me they look bad in pictures and worse in person.

The single offset stripe looks like it is uneven on the back hatch by nature of the boat's lines. The flag on the one I saw is a big sticker and looks goofy as heck on the drivers side. The best part of the 009 35 ZR was the way cool interior material... but they didn't use that on the 22. The only special thing they did with the 22 that I can tell is the raised X... that can be accomplished with a shorty. The hatch was already used on the Aronow edition, which also has more appeal than the 009. The bottom line is there is a reason, even in this economy, why these boats didn't / aren't selling anywhere near MSRP. They are missing that thing that makes your heart skip a beat. That thing that got us all sucked into Donzi's to begin with.

Boats are all about personal preference though. I am sure there are tons of people who don't like my boat but I could care less because it is my boat and it looks fantastic to me. Same goes for this 009...

Carl C
09-22-2010, 01:05 PM
Boats are all about personal preference though. I am sure there are tons of people who don't like my boat but I could care less because it is my boat and it looks fantastic to me. Same goes for this 009...

And that sums it up! Boats are not an investment. I bought mine new because when I saw it on Pier 57's site I knew that I wanted it. Selenium, yes, I think the boat is a good deal if it is what you really like. Myself, I like the 009 editions. You should be easily running 75 mph with that boat. More on good days and after some seat time.

cutwater
09-22-2010, 01:14 PM
Personally, I'm a fan of the 009...

VetteLT193
09-22-2010, 01:26 PM
Personally, I'm a fan of the 009...

This pic makes me a fan too!!!! It's the other angles of it that don't sit right for me :smash:

Ghost
09-22-2010, 02:30 PM
I think it looks great. I think the offset stripe rocks.

I could take or leave the scoop on the motorbox.

My only issue is the flag, which I think should be easily removed. I love the idea of it. I don't think it works in the proportions they chose. If I bought one, I think I would lose the flags. The "009 Even-More-Limited Edition."

http://www.donzi.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=58895&stc=1&d=1285180213

cutwater
09-22-2010, 02:43 PM
I think it looks great. I think the offset stripe rocks.

I could take or leave the scoop on the motorbox.

My only issue is the flag, which I think should be easily removed. I love the idea of it. I don't think it works in the proportions they chose. If I bought one, I think I would lose the flags. The "009 Even-More-Limited Edition."



Agreed 100%. I like the flag in concept, but proportionally it's tough given where they placed it. Otherwise, I think the boat rocks.

Selenium
09-22-2010, 03:03 PM
Here's the beauty 009...the more I look at it the more I want it. I will find a way.

cutwater
09-22-2010, 03:19 PM
:yes:

BUIZILLA
09-22-2010, 03:56 PM
+1 on flag delete..

Carl C
09-22-2010, 04:33 PM
Here's the beauty 009...the more I look at it the more I want it. I will find a way.

Sweet! Go for it. Keep the flags!:lookaroun:

DonziJosh
09-22-2010, 04:44 PM
I always enjoy it when these conversations come up. It's a real privilege to have a hand in creating something that people will be debating for quite some time.

We considered going without the flag but it was distinctive, it made the boats immediately identifiable, and it created a direct correlation between past and present, as we juxtaposed the new 22 and 35 alongside historic photos of the old 008.

However, there's a reason we made the flag a decal, while the "DONZI 009" was painted-on! There's something to be said for "love it or hate it" design cues, but at the end of the day the goal is still to sell your creations.

Funny, I know of at least one 22C 009 that was "deflagged" by a dealer for a boat show only to have the customer take delivery and call us wanting his flags. Murphy's law!

One of the nicer (in my opinion), yet less talked-about design cues of the 009 is the carbon fiber dash panel than spans the whole dash. After years of flush mounting the gauges into fiberglass, switching to the panel (with glossy carbon fiber) and the black leather steering wheel gave the dash a real fresh look.

jonzis donzi
09-22-2010, 05:00 PM
+1! That is one badass looking boat. I've thought that from the first time I sawthat edition. Classy right out of the factory.

gcarter
09-22-2010, 06:12 PM
Josh;
Is that a faux carbon finish on that panel, or the real thing?
I really like it.
I'll have a full width panel and I've been contemplating different materials.

DonziJosh
09-22-2010, 06:38 PM
Josh;
Is that a faux carbon finish on that panel, or the real thing?
I really like it.
I'll have a full width panel and I've been contemplating different materials.

Hi George,

It's actual laminated carbon fiber. It's got great depth to it, especially in sunlight. I'd love to sell you one! It'd be an honor to be even remotely associated with the epic "Now I'm Getting Serious" thread!

Josh

RickSE
09-22-2010, 07:06 PM
...
Funny, I know of at least one 22C 009 that was "deflagged" by a dealer for a boat show only to have the customer take delivery and call us wanting his flags. Murphy's law!...

My black 2002 22SE was deflagged by Island One Marine who requested removal of the "Special Edition" scripts from the hull sides and Donzi Crest from the deck. The dealer said it made the boat look ugly.:boggled:

gcarter
09-22-2010, 07:08 PM
Hi George,

It's actual laminated carbon fiber. It's got great depth to it, especially in sunlight. I'd love to sell you one! It'd be an honor to be even remotely associated with the epic "Now I'm Getting Serious" thread!

Josh

That's tempting, but I'll have more gauges, and other differences.:(

DonziJosh
09-22-2010, 08:13 PM
That's tempting, but I'll have more gauges, and other differences.:(

Really?! I'm shocked! :wink: We could get you a blank panel, but your specs probably call for laser-cut aluminosilicate glass or...something. Can't wait to see how it turns out!

catch 22
09-23-2010, 01:31 AM
One year, one of only 18 made? That's got to be worth something down the road. I think it's a great looking and great running boat. Love the black.:yes::yes:

gero1
09-23-2010, 08:29 AM
i love it!! it's black, it's different, flags and all. but what do i know, i drive a rooster crusier