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Schaf
04-12-2010, 12:09 PM
Wax and polish best? Who uses what for gelcoat? With so many products out there opinions are appreciated.

undertaker
04-12-2010, 12:21 PM
Leverage is the best IMO......have used it one my boat for two years now love it....:)

Undertaker

Ranman
04-12-2010, 12:33 PM
I'm a 3M fan. I use compound for heavy cutting, Finesse-It II for light cutting/finishing and paste wax for the shine.

Heard good things about leverage, but never tried it. ALso, I don't think it covers and "cutting" applications lik the compound or Finesse-It products. It's a wax or wax replacement.

Conquistador_del_mar
04-12-2010, 12:43 PM
I'm a 3M fan. I use compound for heavy cutting, Finesse-It II for light cutting/finishing and paste wax for the shine.

Heard good things about leverage, but never tried it. ALso, I don't think it covers and "cutting" applications lik the compound or Finesse-It products. It's a wax or wax replacement.

Ditto on the 3M products - hard to beat the finished look. Bill

CHACHI
04-12-2010, 12:47 PM
Collinite Insulator Wax.

Ken

Schaf
04-12-2010, 01:03 PM
Has anyone ever Heard of Starbrite Premium Marine Polish with PTEF

I read about it in Boating Mag. I think it was boating. Either that or Powerboat. Said it was the best.

Conquistador_del_mar
04-12-2010, 01:10 PM
Has anyone ever Heard of Starbrite Premium Marine Polish with PTEF

I read about it in Boating Mag. I think it was boating. Either that or Powerboat. Said it was the best.

That used to be my favorite wax, but the old stuff was Star Brite Premium wax with teflon. I still have a few quarts lying around. Good stuff! Bill

mrfixxall
04-12-2010, 01:18 PM
Aqua buff followed by 3m or collinite wax

CHACHI
04-12-2010, 01:24 PM
PTFE is teflon.


In chemistry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemistry), polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE) is a synthetic fluoropolymer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoropolymer) of tetrafluoroethylene (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrafluoroethylene) which finds numerous applications. PTFE is most well known by the DuPont (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuPont) brand name Teflon.
PTFE is a fluorocarbon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorocarbon) solid, as it is a high molecular weight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_weight) compound consisting wholly of carbon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon) and fluorine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorine). Neither water and water-containing substances nor oil and oil-containing substances are wet by PTFE, as fluorocarbons demonstrate mitigated London dispersion forces (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_der_Waals_force) due to the high electronegativity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronegativity) of fluorine. PTFE has one of the lowest coefficients of friction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction) against any solid.




Ken

bigdawgchallenger
04-12-2010, 09:20 PM
OK, dont understand all that. But I did understand "lowest coefficients of friction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction) against any solid"

Ghost
04-12-2010, 09:52 PM
Using it is FAR more important than what it is. That said, I've used 3m for years and have been very happy.

Cuda
04-12-2010, 11:06 PM
Aqua Buff followed by Meguires wax.

osur866
04-13-2010, 12:09 AM
+1 on Leverage products, quick easy and works well, use all their products.

VetteLT193
04-13-2010, 11:38 AM
I used that teflon stuff years back. it fought off the water like crazy. It probably beaded better than anything I have ever used. But: it didn't last. Probably good if you don't use the boat a whole lot though.

I like Zaino products now. By far the longest lasting I have ever used. Need to do the boat with it soon... maybe in the next couple of weeks.

Schaf
04-13-2010, 06:20 PM
I used that teflon stuff years back. it fought off the water like crazy. It probably beaded better than anything I have ever used. But: it didn't last. Probably good if you don't use the boat a whole lot though.

I like Zaino products now. By far the longest lasting I have ever used. Need to do the boat with it soon... maybe in the next couple of weeks.


The article I read talked a lot about how good the product lasted.

DC18
04-13-2010, 10:23 PM
Wax and polish best? Who uses what for gelcoat? With so many products out there opinions are appreciated.

Look into this product http://auroramarine.com/ I have talked to several people who have used it and according to them, nothing outperforms or lasts as long. Some of the people are on the Great Lakes and they leave their boats in the water ALL season. Seems interesting.

Planetwarmer
04-14-2010, 01:02 AM
PTFE is teflon.


In chemistry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemistry), polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE) is a synthetic fluoropolymer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoropolymer) of tetrafluoroethylene (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrafluoroethylene) which finds numerous applications. PTFE is most well known by the DuPont (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuPont) brand name Teflon.
PTFE is a fluorocarbon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorocarbon) solid, as it is a high molecular weight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_weight) compound consisting wholly of carbon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon) and fluorine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorine). Neither water and water-containing substances nor oil and oil-containing substances are wet by PTFE, as fluorocarbons demonstrate mitigated London dispersion forces (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_der_Waals_force) due to the high electronegativity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronegativity) of fluorine. PTFE has one of the lowest coefficients of friction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction) against any solid.




Ken

Teflon is also one of, if not the only solid with the same static and sliding coefficients of friction. It's slippery stuff!

VetteLT193
04-14-2010, 06:53 AM
The article I read talked a lot about how good the product lasted.

I have used just about every product under the sun. I have narrowed it down to 2 excellent products. one is Zymol, the other Zaino.

Zymol is better on darker finishes and will give you a super deep shine. It does not last. If you have a show car or minimally used boat is the best stuff. The zymol I speak of is not the crap they sell at wal mart or your local auto store. that stuff is made by turtle wax and stinks. The stuff needs to be bought at an auto boutique or straight from zymol.

Zaino lasts and actually out shines Zymol in pure reflective ability. But, you lose some deepness. Meaning, it will have more of a mirror effect and less of a depth of shine. It is better on light colors. There is just not much depth to whites, yellows, etc.

As far as teflon goes adding it to a wax sounds great at first. But the reality is the same properties that you want out of the wax (i.e., you want nothing to stick to it so your stuff stays clean), make the wax harder to stick to the paint / gel. :nilly: