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Donzi Vol
09-16-2009, 09:26 AM
Well apparently nobody drove at nighttime in the '70's because I have no rear light on my '70 model. I hate the thoughts of drilling into the deck to install a pole, but I suppose it will have to be done in order to take any evening cruises. What are my options?

Thanks in advance!

mrfixxall
09-16-2009, 09:43 AM
Well apparently nobody drove at nighttime in the '70's because I have no rear light on my '70 model. I hate the thoughts of drilling into the deck to install a pole, but I suppose it will have to be done in order to take any evening cruises. What are my options?

Thanks in advance!


a clamp on battery operated one..

VetteLT193
09-16-2009, 11:05 AM
a clamp on battery operated one..

ditto. and attwood makes clamp on LED ones now. batteries should last forever with LED so you don't even have to worry about that.

f_inscreenname
09-16-2009, 12:41 PM
If not those at least have it mounted on or even countersunk into the transom. No one says it has to be on a pole. All you have to say is, that's how it's always been and no one will give you any issue and they come as small as you want them to be.

Donzi Vol
09-16-2009, 06:21 PM
Definitely some good ideas. Thanks guys.

I like the idea of a removable one, but I'm concerned about it flying off while I'm going down the water :wink: Does the one you're speaking of have a suction cup or actually clamp onto something?

I'll search attwood and see what strikes my fancy.

DickB
09-22-2009, 07:59 PM
http://www.innovativelight.com/powerlight-motorized-led-stern-light_p_1473_11558_1.cfm

From Innovative Lighting. I saw one of these on a Crownline IIRC and immediately decided that I had to have one for my Donzi. The original equipment pole light, which stowed under the rear seat of my 18' Classic, was so unhandy. I could not maneuver under the canopy of my boat lift with the stern light in place, so I’d have to stop and drift while removing it. This automatic telescoping light is so convenient, and the dispersal pattern yields a lot less glare in the boat.

mrfixxall
09-22-2009, 08:14 PM
http://www.innovativelight.com/powerlight-motorized-led-stern-light_p_1473_11558_1.cfm

From Innovative Lighting. I saw one of these on a Crownline IIRC and immediately decided that I had to have one for my Donzi. The original equipment pole light, which stowed under the rear seat of my 18' Classic, was so unhandy. I could not maneuver under the canopy of my boat lift with the stern light in place, so I’d have to stop and drift while removing it. This automatic telescoping light is so convenient, and the dispersal pattern yields a lot less glare in the boat.


sopposely they bend underway,they are the size of a car antenna..

oledawg
09-23-2009, 08:11 AM
Always something interesting. My '88 22C doesn't have a rear light on a pole either, just has a fairly tall removable white one just in front of the windscreen. Nothing on a pole in the rear and my understanding is that it is totally USCG and NCWL OK. Now there is a rear light on the transom itself. I sure don't plan to add one, but of course I am one of those folks that thinks driving fast boats should be done in daylight anyway! :cool!:

jimishooch
09-23-2009, 08:20 AM
FWIW my '88 minx has a transom light and an all-round on front deck.

A2VeeDub
09-23-2009, 12:52 PM
Always something interesting. My '88 22C doesn't have a rear light on a pole either, just has a fairly tall removable white one just in front of the windscreen. Nothing on a pole in the rear and my understanding is that it is totally USCG and NCWL OK. Now there is a rear light on the transom itself. I sure don't plan to add one, but of course I am one of those folks that thinks driving fast boats should be done in daylight anyway! :cool!:

My father's '87 22C has the same light in front of the windscreen. We got caught at a restaurant about 15 miles away after dark. That thing made it almost impossible to see the water in front of you with it shining right in your eyes. About 5 minutes into it I pulled it out and said I'll pay the ticket if we get pulled. I'd rather pay that than the repair bill for hitting something.

The boat also has a light on the transom below the rubrail, but not one on the deck in the stern.

My '72 18C has an extendable in the rear starboard corner. Doesn't look too bad. Don't know if its stock or not.

f_inscreenname
09-23-2009, 01:10 PM
The boat also has a light on the transom below the rubrail, but not one on the deck in the stern.
Thats all you need in these old boats.

oledawg
09-23-2009, 02:05 PM
Like I said, if the sun isn't shining, I'm not riding! Never have even used the front deck pole light, but I am sure that it is really an anchor light, ie just for use when stopped in the dark, not for running, the transom light is for nav. :cool!:

joseph m. hahnl
09-23-2009, 03:07 PM
Always something interesting. My '88 22C doesn't have a rear light on a pole either, just has a fairly tall removable white one just in front of the windscreen. Nothing on a pole in the rear and my understanding is that it is totally USCG and NCWL OK. Now there is a rear light on the transom itself. I sure don't plan to add one, but of course I am one of those folks that thinks driving fast boats should be done in daylight anyway! :cool!:

That is called a mast head light. It is the only way to go.

There is no light shining on you and your passengers while your driving.
It also illuminates markers ,docks and hazards in front of you at headway speed.

Best of all it looks cool:shades:

Planetwarmer
09-23-2009, 03:16 PM
That is called a mast head light. It is the only way to go.

There is no light shining on you and your passengers while your driving.
It also illuminates markers ,docks and hazards in front of you at headway speed.

Best of all it looks cool:shades:

Yep! I love my light on my 87'. The people with problems are probably running the light with both sides lit. It is great when only the front bulb is on. It is like a mini head light!

joseph m. hahnl
09-23-2009, 03:17 PM
My father's '87 22C has the same light in front of the windscreen. We got caught at a restaurant about 15 miles away after dark. That thing made it almost impossible to see the water in front of you with it shining right in your eyes. About 5 minutes into it I pulled it out and said I'll pay the ticket if we get pulled. I'd rather pay that than the repair bill for hitting something.

The boat also has a light on the transom below the rubrail, but not one on the deck in the stern.

My '72 18C has an extendable in the rear starboard corner. Doesn't look too bad. Don't know if its stock or not.


The rear side of the masthead is not suppose to be on while navigating.http://www.sailboatstuff.com/images/OGM-LX2MH-sm.jpg (http://www.sailboatstuff.com/images/OGM-LX2MH-LG.jpg)

That is what the transom light is for.http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/pict/1403467725248080_1.jpg (http://javascript<b></b>:;)

When in anchorage both lights are lit on the masthead and the bi color and transom light are off.
If that is not the case . It's wired wrong:shocking:

Planetwarmer
09-23-2009, 03:18 PM
The rear side of the masthead is not suppose to be on while navigating.http://www.sailboatstuff.com/images/OGM-LX2MH-sm.jpg (http://www.sailboatstuff.com/images/OGM-LX2MH-LG.jpg)

That is what the transom light is for.http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/pict/1403467725248080_1.jpg (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:;)

When in anchorage both lights are lit on the masthead and the bi color and transom light are off.
If that is not the case . It's wired wrong:shocking:

YEP yep yep

The Hedgehog
09-23-2009, 03:34 PM
Are you sure that you should not change this to "Needing a Bud Light"?:bonk:

I would make my decision based on if you think that you will use it or not. I prefer not to drive at night but have and do. It is usually a dusk thing or it depends on which lake. I drove very little at Eufaula. Lots of channel markers and stumps. When I lived at Lake Jordan where it is deep, I liked to take a moonlight spin back from cooking out at a friends house. Center Hill on the other hand is exhausting at night. It is deep but has lots of turns and points.

If you think that you will be using it on occasion, you should want it up where everyone can see it. Lot's of night time boat accidents are where someone runs up on somebody else from behind. The ole perko pole insert is not exactly horrible looking. As a matter of fact, I paid little attention to mine until this was discussed. The good news it that you can see it and tell what direction the boat is heading.

If you are totally against driving at night and won't do it, by all means get a stick on.

Dave, I think that you may get stuck with a date coming back from dinner at dusk or maybe a little after. At dusk you will not want to slow to 10mph to get home. You may have to ferry someone back to the party at the Vol Navy episode. Hopefully you will not be needing to ferry your date back to the car so she can go home! Both may happen at night. Better be safe than sorry (probably one of the few times you will hear that from me!)

DickB
09-23-2009, 07:31 PM
sopposely they bend underway,they are the size of a car antenna..
No (not my experience) and no (they are bigger in diameter and taller).

Planetwarmer
09-23-2009, 10:28 PM
If you spin your monitor, it makes it look like the little wooden propeller is spinning!:kingme:

Planetwarmer
09-23-2009, 11:29 PM
Here is how the light pole is supposed to work while under way.

oledawg
09-24-2009, 05:09 AM
Beautiful picture, and I will have to try it out. Looks good! :cool!:

A2VeeDub
09-24-2009, 07:08 AM
The rear side of the masthead is not suppose to be on while navigating.http://www.sailboatstuff.com/images/OGM-LX2MH-sm.jpg (http://www.sailboatstuff.com/images/OGM-LX2MH-LG.jpg)

That is what the transom light is for.http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/pict/1403467725248080_1.jpg (http://javascript<b></b>:;)

When in anchorage both lights are lit on the masthead and the bi color and transom light are off.
If that is not the case . It's wired wrong:shocking:

Thanks for the info. I'll have to let him know how its supposed to be wired. Or second though maybe I'll fix it for him. The idea of him getting into under dash wiring scares me. He likes to use automotive butt connectors, or ones from Harbor Freight. Been stranded a few times because of some of his wiring. :bonk:

joseph m. hahnl
09-24-2009, 02:29 PM
Here is how the light pole is supposed to work while under way.

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Hey yours works better than mine!:eek: I wish mine could light the top of the trees from 5 miles out! :biggrin:

Planetwarmer
09-24-2009, 10:38 PM
I believe in always having the best!

Donzi Vol
09-26-2009, 11:14 PM
Man, you boys went wild on this thread! I've been off of here for a few days (computer issues) and just got back to see everything. THANKS for all of the useful information. I have some great info and ideas now!

Hedge, you've pretty much hit the nail on the head. I don't have the desire or plan to ride at night, BUT there always is the chance that it will happen. You never know when dinner will run long or something like the Vol Navy episode you described will arise. I'd hate to get caught leaving it tied to the restaurant dock til the next day.

I'll go do a little more searching and looking online and maybe West Marine tomorrow. It's been a while since I've wasted money in there anyway.

Thanks guys