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gcarter
06-19-2009, 09:43 AM
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F1 faces split as eight teams break away

By Roger Blitz
Published: June 19 2009 08:32 | Last updated: June 19 2009 11:14

Formula One was plunged into its worst crisis in its 60-year history on Friday after eight teams announced they would set up a rival championship, (http://www.teamsassociation.org/press-release/2009-06-19/press-release)saying Max Mosley, the head of motorsport’s regulator, had ignored their demands over his controversial budget cap plans and had tried to drive a wedge between them.
http://media.ft.com/cms/42582854-3682-11de-af40-00144feabdc0.jpg (http://www.donzi.net/forums/#)The dramatic decision, announced in a lengthy statement from the Formula One Teams Association (Fota) came on the eve of practice for Sunday’s British Grand Prix and a deadline for entries for next year’s championship.
Mr Mosley, president of the Fédération Internationale de l’Automobile, demanded a £40m budget cap on teams to prevent what he called a ”financial arms race”. But the plan, which involved two sets of regulations for teams, depending on whether they spent above or below the budget cap, threatened the business models of leading teams such as Ferrari and McLaren.
In its statement, Fota said it had ”genuinely sought compromise” with the FIA and Bernie Ecclestone, F1’s commercial supremo, against a backdrop of a ”campaign to divide” the Fota members.
”It has become clear, however, the teams cannot continue to compromise on the fundamental values of the sport and have declined to alter their original conditional entries to the 2010 world championship,” Fota said.
Its rival championship would have ”transparent governance” and a single set of regulations, as well as offer ticket prices lower than those in F1.
Fota claimed its series would attract ”the major drivers, stars, brands, sponsors, promoters and companies historically associated with the highest level of motorsport”.
Though many in the sport have reservations about the ability of the teams to run a rival series, few would question how entrenched the positions of the two sides have become.
The negotiations have been plagued by a series of leaks of correspondence between Fota and the FIA and rows over whether or not the teams were already legally committed to next year’s championship.
Fota’s members are Brawn GP, Ferrari, McLaren, Renault, Toyota, BMW Sauber, Red Bull Racing and Toro Rosso. Williams and Force India were thrown out of Fota after they signed unconditional terms with the FIA.
Three new teams will join F1 next year, though several more will now look to fill the gaps left by the Fota members if they follow through with their breakaway plans.
FIA said the deadline for 2010 entries expired on Friday (http://fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/f1releases/2009/Pages/fia_fota_2010.aspx)evening and the list for next season would be announced on Saturday.
”We are disappointed but not surprised by Fota’s inability to reach a compromise in the best interests of the sport,” the FIA said in response.
”It is clear that elements within Fota have sought this outcome throughout the prolonged period of negotiation and have not engaged in the discussions in good faith.
“The FIA cannot permit a financial arms race in the championship nor can the FIA allow Fota to dictate the rules of Formula One.”

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chip w
06-19-2009, 03:56 PM
Shades of CART and the IRL splitting in '96. But I support FOTA. Let's see, Indy, Montreal and Silverstone will be available. About the only track that's a traditional F1 venue that isn't would be Monico. Bring it on, I say. Let them be as technically creative as they can afford to be. Let Bernie take his circus elsewhere!

IMHO, of course. :wink:

zelatore
06-19-2009, 11:07 PM
Cart and IRL. Yup. Here we go again.

I do agree with the concept that costs need to be contained, especially in this economy. But let's face it, F1 is about technical supremacy. It's always been expensive, and it always will. If it's not cutting edge, it's not F1.

So while I hate to see a split I have to side with the FOTA guys as Max and Bernie have just gotten right out of control.

FWIW, I expect a last minute deal to magically appear to avoid the split. But I'll be the first to admit I could be wrong.

BUIZILLA
06-20-2009, 06:13 AM
so whatta they gonna call it??

F1 1/2?

Ed Donnelly
06-20-2009, 10:19 AM
My money is on Max and Bernie reaching a compromise settlement...Ed

p729lws
06-23-2009, 05:03 PM
My money is on Max and Bernie reaching a compromise settlement...Ed

Typical posturing. Put me down for a last minute compromise also:crossfing: Although I would like to see a return to Montreal, Indy and Silverstone…:yes:

Dan

zelatore
06-23-2009, 06:02 PM
Typical posturing. Put me down for a last minute compromise also:crossfing: Although I would like to see a return to Montreal, Indy and Silverstone…:yes:
Dan

Screw Indy - I want a real race track.

Now Road America.....THAT would be a blast!

(yeah, yeah, I know it will never happen)

gcarter
06-23-2009, 07:31 PM
Screw Indy - I want a real race track.

Now Road America.....THAT would be a blast!

(yeah, yeah, I know it will never happen)

So, what do you think the chances of the new group lowering the "price of admission" to something less than $20M, or whatever it is they charge?
If the cost were less, maybe Road America would be a possible venue??????

zelatore
06-23-2009, 08:58 PM
Why lower the cost of the event when you've got some near-3rd-world country ready to shell out the bucks? China, Malaysia, India -sure, but they've dropped the US, and are threatening to drop the British and Italian GPs(!). Next thing you know we'll be racing in Afaganastan and N. Korea!

Actually, even if they did lower the event fees I doubt Road America would make the list. I don't think the track meets FIA safety standards, and more than that it's not near a major airport or city. So while I think it's a great track and location, the international set may not agree.

But please, please, please, no more 'rovals'! (road course in an oval) I haven't seen one yet worth a crap compared to a real race track!

p729lws
06-23-2009, 10:27 PM
Screw Indy - I want a real race track.
Now Road America.....THAT would be a blast!
(yeah, yeah, I know it will never happen)

How about the full course at the Glen or Sear's Point... sign me up!

Dan

gcarter
06-24-2009, 04:52 AM
The Glen was done for years, wasn't it?

zelatore
06-24-2009, 09:31 AM
Watken's Glen was home to the US F1 race for years, but that was a long time ago.

As for Sears, I would certainly love it if they came here seeing how it's less than an hour from my house; 30 minutes from my office. Personally, I don't like driving the track that much except for a few corners. Again, it would need a major makeover to reach FIA standards (at least I think it would).

But back on topic.....THIS is where it will end:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/teams/5623329/F1-breakaway-averted-as-Max-Mosley-says-he-will-not-stand-for-re-election.html

gcarter
06-24-2009, 09:41 AM
Some more comments on the subject from Bernie.....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/5601885/Bernie-Ecclestone-vows-to-hold-Formula-One-together-in-face-of-FOTA-breakaway-threat.html

p729lws
06-24-2009, 02:10 PM
Grandprix.com is reporting on an agreement between the FIA and FOTA...

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21603.html

handfulz28
06-24-2009, 03:51 PM
Mosley is out and 2010 will include Team US F1. Cool.