New Project for me.

[Trueser]

I found this project that needed a little help.

Before we rip each other over the Politics section. I thought we can get back to Donzi's

A couple of you have the story and can play along!

[gcarter]

So how is it coming along?:wink:

[roadtrip se]

I would be interested in seeing the stringer work, when we get to that point.

Vested parties need to know...

[Trueser]

Poodle, Can you ship it to my office? Thanks.
Roadtrip,
I talked with him again today and he guarantees that the cracks will never come back.
Here are the updated pictures from this morning.


The stringers were wet or the wood was completely GONE all the way forward past the fuel tank. The transom was shot all the way.
Fuel tank was still intact new one on the way!

[gcarter]

Are those stringers just butted into the transom? If so, is he going to do something in addition to what we see?

[Trueser]

Update and more pictures

[MOP]

I see he is making sure the stringers and transom wood is isolated, I like the chamfered job nice work.

[maddad]

Nice job. The pictures are helping me plan an attack on my project.

[mphatc]

Are the stringers pine . . white pine? I see knots in the boards, aren't those weak points?
the stringers in my Corsican looked to be mahoghany when I expesed them while installing the new transom . . ?
Mario L.

[gcarter]

All the original stringers I've seen were clear pine, whether "white" or not, I don't know.

[BUIZILLA]

well, well, well... :biggrin.:

somebody found themselves a Critter... :yes:

one pic feature is a dead giveaway.... :kingme:

now, how in the hell, did you get that deck/innerliner off without cracking the console pod's? :worthy:

[gcarter]

now, how in the hell, did you get that deck/innerliner off without cracking the console pod's? :worthy:
Mike didn't, his glass guy did.

[Trueser]

It's about time someone figured this out. They lifted the deck with the console. Used that as the lifting point.



Let me load up the rest of the pictures.

[Trueser]

The front and rear hatch are at a point that it would be easier to make a mold and make new than repair.

Does anyone need any?

[Trueser]

Mike didn't, his glass guy did.

George,
I gave up my desk job the bailout plan just did'nt help.

[Trueser]

Old fuel tank.

Stringer,
Yes they are pine. Once they are encapsulated in glass and mat they will be installed. The strength is the glass.

The wood in the old stringers were soaking wet or gone. Bug intrusion.

[BUIZILLA]

a Farmer cousin.. :worthy:

fuzzy needs a front hatch.. :yes:

what's the hull # ??? :wink:

[BUIZILLA]

hmmmm..

*spare* rear hatch....

yeah, that's the excuse.. a spare..

I could be game for that too :kingme:

[farmer tx]

Wow Mike, thats quite a find. It looks like it has a lot MILES under it. Speaking of engine hatches, does anyone know what models that hatch fits? Criterion II, Ctiterion SS, F-22, Minx?

[mrfixxall]

Old fuel tank.
Stringer,
Yes they are pine. Once they are encapsulated in glass and mat they will be installed. The strength is the glass.
The wood in the old stringers were soaking wet or gone. Bug intrusion.

Mike, so whats going to stop the sap from the pine from bleeding? Usually it will cause the fiberglass to delaminate from the pinewood after a period of time..

[farmer tx]

Mike,I thought I had seen this boat before.

http://www.donzi.net/forums/showthread.php?t=39764

[Trueser]

Sister? The best post is the last!

Anyway I should have an update on the hatch this week and I think they may finish up on the hull and start on the deck.

How many hatches are we going to need?

Poodle,
Make sure you take some pictures of you deck so I can show him.

Fix,
I will have to check on the wood also. The sap should not be an issue. The original ones lasted 20 some years and they were never sealed up.

[FISHIN SUCKS]

Cool Project Mikey! So is this an addition or are you selling off the 28?

[BigGrizzly]

Heck I go to one event and another critter evolves a sellout/buyout happens what next?

[Trueser]

Front hatch measurements.

48" Port/Stbd.
32" Fore/Aft

The rear hatch

53.5"
41.5"

If anyone is interested send me an email.

[Trueser]

Updated pictures.

The plan is to gel coat the whole inside.

[gero1]

i see alot of problems in this here fix up....there seems to be alot of dirt everywhere, no moter or drive...how the he$% are ya gonna steer the da%$ thing? no seats, where are the hottie's gonna sit? no drink holder's. shoot i give up

[Lenny]

very cool Mike :yes:

[Trueser]

Lenny,
Give me a call

[BigGrizzly]

Trueser, This is going to be a great project. Now I am getting Jealous. First Ed, then MeChary, then Buiz, Then Tex, then Cliff and now you. So looks like we will have 4 CriterionII and 4 Standard versions, OK who has the SS. Soon the Critters will out number the classics. Approximately 25 Criterion s and we have 8 on the board that I know of. Looks like I need ti make up some more special Criterion stickers. Truesr yours will be at Cumberland May, so clear your rear window.

[Trueser]

Ok I need to come clean on this.

This is Mark's boat I am just the project manager. He has decided to use my glass guy to re-store the boat.

I will keep everyone updated with the progress along with Pictures.

Looks like he should be starting on the deck this week. I should also have a better cost on front and rear hatch.

Sorry about the confusion.

[BigGrizzly]

OK then the score is 3 to 4 and we have seven- your forgiven:rolleyes:

[boldts]

Anyone purchase the black one up on Lake St. Clair in Michigan yet? Stirring the pot just a bit. :) Been about 5 yrs. since I last saw this one.

[boldts]

And I believe this one went to the North East? Maybe on Lake George now? Just a few I knew about back when I wanted one to replace my 18 Classic.

[BUIZILLA]

neither of those two had the power antenna...

[gero1]

i was gonna guess jefe, center con and all

[Trueser]

Made a visit to the Itch shop this morning.

Center console and forward bunk in process.

The drive hole is back.

[Trueser]

The crazy deck upside down.
Where is the bait locker?

[Trueser]

More.

Live well upgrade added.

[Trueser]

Power antenna will go on this section.

[Trueser]

Gonna need to have a sunpad made with a hole in the middle...


Like This

[gero1]

danged ol jefe has all the cool boats...where are the seats for the hotties going? mp said the boat was going to be filled with hotties

[farmer tx]

I've got to say that Mike is a real stand up guy. He located Tom a couple of years ago when he and Matt were redoing their Z-29. Then Tom did Mikes C-22. Being 1200 miles away from me, Mike is a real asset with all the photo documentation, and quality control. Tom is really getting things done,delivered to him on the 25th of September with a tentative pickup date of late October, I think he is ahead of schedule. Thanks Mike for all the help.:yes:

Mark

[Trueser]

Update the deck underside has been repaired. Waiting for the underside and the inside of the hull to be gel coated. Grey...

[Trueser]

More pictures.

Questions and comments are welcome.

[Rodger]

Wow Mike, thats quite a find. It looks like it has a lot MILES under it. Speaking of engine hatches, does anyone know what models that hatch fits? Criterion II, Ctiterion SS, F-22, Minx?


I believe the only other non-Criterion model using that engine hatch is the F-22.

[Trueser]

I believe the only other non-Criterion model using that engine hatch is the F-22.

Rodger,
Stop by or give me a call.

Trueser@comcast.net

[Trueser]

Update 6

Tank installed.
Under deck repairs complete.
Inside hull done in grey Gel coat.

[Trueser]

More shots

[Donziweasel]

Damn Trueser, you are moving fast on that thing. Nice work and love the pics!:)

[gero1]

looks great, thanks for all the pictures

[Trueser]

Color has been tested and approved.

The next set of pictures should be very interesting.

:shocking:

[Trueser]

Update 7

More deck work.

[Trueser]

Need to glass in the transom and raise the X...
SHH, don't tell anyone ;) :)

We already went down that road....:bonk:

We can do that on yours for sure. You have my address we should get it line asap. I'm sure we will find the same issues.

How do you like the color?

And no we can't swap my 28 for the winter.

[BigGrizzly]

I saw that coming. If I were going to do that on that boat, I would just put the money in the engine. OH wait I did.:lookaroun::)

[gero1]

any new pics or are we going to have to wait till spring at aoth?

[gero1]

i am waiting

[Trueser]

Gero,
I will have an update this Thursday. Gel has been applied to the cockpits. Everything going as planned.

Don't you have any cotton to pull? How's that fuel tank gasket project?

[gero1]

the east coast div. of h farms is doing just fine(yield might be low) tabs?? none of ya use yall's, thinking about taking'em off and selling them for gas money...beer...shine...ect.

[gero1]

it's thrusday!!!

[Trueser]

Ok this is just sanded so far. A real mess.

Once the cockpits are complete the rest should go quick.

[Trueser]

Sorry for the delay Gero,

[farmer tx]

Mike, I think the color is spot on. Looks like he is still on schedule.:shades:

[gero1]

looks great! thank you t

[Trueser]

Ok it's time for the hatch update.

They are making molds for both hatches and he is wondering other than Poodle how many other's need a replacement front or rear hatch.

Criterion

PM or email me if you have any questions.

[Trueser]

The Hull should be done by Friday. I was told that I should stop by on Saturday and they should have it sanded and buffed.

This should be wrapping up soon.

Just think on hooking up all the gauges:bonk::bonk::bonk::bonk:

[Trueser]

Wow maybe this should have a single axle trailer underneath it :nilly:

Moving along as planned..

[Trueser]

More pictures.

[Trueser]

Will this make it to AOTH 2009.............................

[BUIZILLA]

if it was mine... i'd stripe it that green tape color... :popcorn:

[Trueser]

LOL....

Send me some pictures of yours.

[BUIZILLA]

i'm serious..

seriously, i'm serious.. :wink:

[Trueser]

It's already white GEL underneath.

Would you like all the pictures? I took 72 today alone.


Trueser@comcast.net

[Trueser]

This is a 30 foot boat that he plans on making some hulls.Check out the edges on the bottom. This is the first coat on the mold,

[gero1]

i said the same thing, i like the green

[farmer tx]

Mike, If that's the mold why is he gelcoating the outside. Don't you lay up a hull on the inside of a mold? Or is that the plug?

[Trueser]

That is the mold.

Checking on the green updates.

[BUIZILLA]

That is the mold. :confused:

[Trueser]

confused? Why grasshopper.

Update NOV 26th ..

[Trueser]

More....

[Trueser]

Are the pictures going to come back?

This week the deck and the hull should be sanded and buffed.

The molds for the hatches still need to be finished.

[BigGrizzly]

T man you are a good foreman for this project, nothing is going to slip by.

[gero1]

keeping an eye on the wcd. looks great!

[Trueser]

OK Robert

Update moving along.

I just noticed that these pictures do not show you the detail like the full version.

[Trueser]

Larger format

[gero1]

looks brand new!!!!

[gero1]

what's the weather looking like this week up there!!!!!!!!!

[Trueser]

cold cold and more cold.

Average 25 and snow.

should be interesting for the Texan

[19donziz29]

Mark,
You ready for the cold up here? Looking forward to seeing the boat in person! I'll call the sign shop guy for you in the morning, so we can get that lined up if we need to. Have a safe trip.
Matt

[roadtrip se]

He and Polly showed up here in Detroit in January a few years back...

We had to cook the steaks twice after they kept freezing on the grill on the non-fire side in the 20 degree weather.

[farmer tx]

Matt, We will be out of here in a few hours. Looking forwad to seeing y'all. Got meat?

RT, 20 degrees my ass, it was 9*, had to keep the steaks engulfed in flame so they would cook. Good thing we liked them rare.:convertib::convertib:

[Team Jefe]

I'm a little Confused there Mr. Farmer...don't you have to go South from Plainview to get to Chicago?:lookaroun:

Man I can't wait to see the old girl with new luster.

[Trueser]

[quote=Team Jefe;481553]I'm a little Confused there Mr. Farmer...don't you have to go South from Plainview to get to Chicago?:lookaroun:


This baby really came out great. We should have some updated pictures soon. The deck was put back on TODAY, waiting on the new hatches and we should be set.

The color ended up a perfect match. Every bit of gel was redone except the bottom.

[Trueser]

Mark will be picking the Crit up on Friday.

I will post some pictures after we pick it up.

[Trueser]

Almost done. 1 more day.

[Trueser]

Some of the pictures are dusty. Still buffing going on.

[Trueser]

17 degreees and Texans don't like cold...

[fogducker III]

WOW! Very nice job, I know very little about Critters so bear with me, is the second hatch cover for the forward seating area? If so, does that make it an even rarer model?

I am curious about all the holes in the dash....?

That is a labour of love and you have seriously done a great job......

[BUIZILLA]

wow............................................... ...................... :boat:

[Trueser]

WOW! Very nice job,THanks I know very little about Critters so bear with me, is the second hatch cover for the forward seating area?Yes..... If so, does that make it an even rarer model? Nope

I am curious about all the holes in the dash....? Gauges and more gauges

That is a labour of love and you have seriously done a great job......

Thanks it looks better in person

[Trueser]

wow............................................... ...................... :boat:

Don't hold back,,,


You will like these pictures.

[RedDog]

WOW! Very nice job, I know very little about Critters so bear with me, is the second hatch cover for the forward seating area? If so, does that make it an even rarer model?

I am curious about all the holes in the dash....?

That is a labour of love and you have seriously done a great job......

The Critters have 2 of every gauge

[fogducker III]

The Critters have 2 of every gauge

I did not know that, thank you......... what I love about the boat is what my better half calls, "The front rumble seat......":eek:

[BUIZILLA]

The Critters have 2 of every gauge
only the II's and SS's have redundant readout's...

[Trueser]

Bildge shots.

Sunlight shots later today!

[sweet 16 1966]

Did you gel on top of gel? Looks fantastic!

[MOP]

Michael you are doing a fantastic job in my eyes a true chest thumper!!!

[Trueser]

Did you gel on top of gel? Looks fantastic!

Yes, everything was redone except the bottom. Hardest part were the cockpits!!!!!




Thanks...

[BigGrizzly]

Looks great, if I had the $$$ I would be camping out up there with the boat.

[Trueser]

Update!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How many can we fit in one garage?

[BigGrizzly]

Now that is nice even in a garage the Criterion is leading.

[Trueser]

Mark,
Is breakfast ready?

[osur866]

rack'm, stack'm, pack'm, nice stable :) Steve

[roadtrip se]

Mark,
Is breakfast ready?

Breakfast tacos and bacon!

[Trueser]

On our way...

[Air 22]

Very, Very, Very nice Crit!!!:cool::yes: Cant wait to see her complete:)

[Trueser]

I missed breakfast taco's?? :frown::boggled::bonk::nilly:


And Brickle bars:)

[Trueser]

I have transferred this project back over to Mark, He had a little trouble getting around town this morning but he is on the road. The boat should be shrink wrapped and all DONE.

Everything came out great, the boat looks fantastic. Mark already slipped in the rear cockpit; we were thinking he will have to rig this boat in his birthday suit so he won't scratch anything.

We have to keep up the pressure and make sure he gets this done for AOTH!

Before and after shots.

[farmer tx]

Got the critter home yesterday after 21 hrs on the road through snow, ice and freezing drizzle. Knocked the trailer connector off the bumper and a side marker lamp off the trailer with a chunk of ice in the road about the size of a bowling ball. Also I learned that a bottle of rum makes a great windshield washer and deicer fluid.:boggled: Also the license plate from the trailer is somewhere in southern MO.or northern OK. Spent a little time getting the shipping wrap off and wiping it down this afternoon. Can't wait to get this christmas stuff out of the way so I can start the reassembly started.
Also, thanks go out to Trueser for overseeing the glass and gelcoat work and Matt for the accomodations during our stay up there.

[Team Jefe]

I got a feeling, having her rigged for AOTH will not be a problem:yes:

[BUIZILLA]

what motor? :)

[BigGrizzly]

That is great news Farmer Tex PM me your shipping address. I owe you something.

[farmer tx]

555 cid BBC tall deck. It's a little dusty,finished it in March just before I got too busy on the cotton patch.

[BUIZILLA]

tractor pull headers??

not sure, in fact i'm positive, that combo isn't going to fit under the stock hatch, even without the bird killing headers...

so, that esplains the lack of hatch on the ride home... :wink:

sneaky sneaky :shades:

you sandbagger you :cool!:

[McGary911]

Wow, just found this thread. Congrats on the Critter. The project looks insane so far. Gonna need a LOT of gauges to fill those holes.

Question, you have the windshield?

[BigGrizzly]

change the air filter and you have a chance. If not a performer Rpm ail make it work. The other issue is the hedders if CMI is used the jumper hose needs to be on the side. Mine is on the top and touches the hatch support X which you don't have I think mine is the only one with it. I guess I need to bring some special Criterion props to Cumberland. Or maybe I need to drive south if there is a spear room and food.

[breeze400]

:wink: What A project! Can't wait to see the boat finished! I can appreciate all the work that has gone into this boat. I have A 89 R23 DL that I have owned since new. I have replaced the floors in the cockpit and engine conpartment. Now I have to redo the floors in the cabin this spring. Lotts of work for sure!! LOL. :bighug:

[BUIZILLA]

change the air filter and you have a chance. If not a performer Rpm ail make it work. The other issue is the hedders if CMI is used the jumper hose needs to be on the side. Mine is on the top and touches the hatch support X which you don't have I think mine is the only one with it. I guess I need to bring some special Criterion props to Cumberland. Or maybe I need to drive south if there is a spear room and food. mine has the X ribbing also, thank God for that... kill the air cleaner and the spacer and you have a small prayer.... very small... remember it's a +.400 tall deck so that add's up quickly...

[BigGrizzly]

Sorry Buiz I did not remember that, I guess I was looking at the 214 hedding on the GPS more then anything else.

[breeze400]

Isen't this why he was looking for A hatch with A hole in it?

[farmer tx]

McGary, Thanks. Had a new windshield reproduced 2 years age at Design Plastics in Ft, Lauderdale.

Buz, can't believe your badmouthing the Hillbilly Dyno test stand. And the fine irrigation headers with the requisite rain flaps. :lookaroun:


Griz & Buz, Had a new hatch reproduced and that removed the 3/4 inch sag and added about 3/4 arch back into the hatch. I mocked up a tall deck 427 bare block with aluminum heads, and exhaust. The merc intake manifold for a 540 needs no spacers as it would if I used an after market manifold. The mocked up engine assembly was 1" too tall to close the hatch. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it will fit now. If it is still too tight I can lose the 1" spacer under the carb.


Thanks for the kind words breeze.

[FISHIN SUCKS]

tractor pull headers??


Tractor Pull headers........LMAO:fam:......that is funny!

What'd you do, throw that motor in the tractor to pick cotton , plow boy?

[BigGrizzly]

I just talked to Garry and the performer manifold won't change a noticable amount of HP with that engine. BTW that 3/4 inch is monumental. I wish I had done it but it is a $$$ thing with me at this point. I got some thing special for you.

[farmer tx]

Yeah, but a performer manifold requires an adapter between the head and manifold on a tall deck engine.
Wow, I just noticed the photos were restored on the first few pages of Mikes thread. Thanks Scot!!

[BigGrizzly]

You need to call and ask again a lot of stuff is not on the web site, or try a Weiland sealth. Even if it needed an adapter its still better then a hole or scoop. Actually they had put an adapter on a Donavon and picked up some more low end and no loss at top end.

[Trueser]

OK Mark,

This needs to make it to AOTH. we need some updated pictures.

Full boat pictures in the sunlight.
New decals installed.

updates....

Let's go.

[farmer tx]

I'll get right on that Mike:) Just let me get the next 48 hrs. behind me.:nilly:

[gero1]

is the shop cleaned up?

[farmer tx]

Yes Robert :yes:


I'll try Scott :crossfing:

[Trueser]

I'm thinking a long weekend blitz to help Mark get this ready for AOTH.

Texas cooking, warm sunshine and drilling stringers sounds like a fun weekend.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm

[farmer tx]

Mike( and MP)bring it on. We have spare bedrooms and lots of groceries. I have been snowed under with work but have managed some progress on the Criterion. After getting it back from Tom it looked so good that the rest of the parts looked like $hit. So the transom assembly, gimble and inner plate needed a little attention. Rear engine mount, trans and bellhousing also looked crumby. After some refinishing those I am in the process of mocking up the transom hardware, redrilling mounting locations in the transom is not a job for the faint at heart. Chicago to Amarillo is about $85. one way. I could scratch up a round trip if your willing.

Sorry about the size, new computer I am having trouble resizing,

[farmer tx]

A couple more. (By the way Mike it was 85* here today)

[gero1]

it's getting close to planting time, maybe you two should be on your way.ASAP!!!!!!!!

[gero1]

the highs for the next 7 days. 87,84,78,72,66,72,65. mike you will thaw out and mp you won't freeze

[BigGrizzly]

Free Texas cooking, I am a good director, can I come too.;) A week end with friends what could be better except winning the lottery.

[19donziz29]

Mark some of those stickers look familiar! I'm in for a trip down to work on the Boat, and hang out with great friends. Let me know when we're going...
Matt

[Trueser]

Ok, I will get with Mark and pick some options. Lets see if we can agree on a weekend.

Will have mark post some options and see if we can put a Crit back together in a weekend.

Myself
Matt
Poodle
Griz Director
Mark
Polly

[BigGrizzly]

I am really excited about this project, it is being don like I wish I could afford it to be done- the right way. Soon a brand new Criterion. Heck i just remembered I need to mail something to Mark

[farmer tx]

"Project Barnstormer" Is tentatively set on March 26-30. That way we miss most of spring break. Also the airline tickets are cheaper on thurs. and mondays. What do y'all think?:us-texas::smash:

[farmer tx]

Amarillo 60 min. away. Lubbock 45 min. away. Southwest fly's to both. Frontier fly's to AMA.

[gero1]

u ain't going to build a tackle box. lubbock or armadillow, i am a ril o, amarillo. wow i really need to learn how to spell

[gero1]

wow he types fast

[farmer tx]

The picture is inticement.:chilipepp::beer:

[farmer tx]

Abilene 4 hrs, OKC 5hrs. I think I know why you are asking about these out of the way places. I'll check for you.

[farmer tx]

These are made in Amarillo.http://www.donzi.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40107 POST 10

[farmer tx]

AA fly's to LUB & AMA

[Trueser]

Looks like the 27th - 29Th or the second week in April 10-12th,

Thursday thru Monday you get the better rates.

[BigGrizzly]

May not be able to fly but drive what is the address. If the wife lets me, something about my own boat, engineless at the moment. 800 hours need to look see before i see from the outside:checkered::checkered:

[Trueser]

May not be able to fly but drive what is the address. If the wife lets me, something about my own boat, engineless at the moment. 800 hours need to look see before i see from the outside:checkered::checkered:


Pick up Robert/ Gero on the way. xtra driver for you

Pm sent with Marks address.

[Trueser]

The 28th works for us and Mark.

Mike

[farmer tx]

Gosh Scott, Both Lubbock and Amarillo are INTERNATIONAL airports:D Actually they could just set'er down most anywhere out here and not hit a thing.:sombrero:

[gero1]

lubbock-36.7 min amarillo 51.8 min now book'em

[gero1]

p,s these times are very close + or - 1.5 to 4.3 min depending on how he drives

[BigGrizzly]

I am working on it. Got some things I need to get don or I don't bring the Criterion! However I am working on it. This could be an official Sticker gathering and award.

[The Hedgehog]

I have been quietly looking at this project and must say that I am impressed. This is turning out to be one neat boat.

Oh yeah, I love the center stripe. It reminds me of a certain X-18.

[CJmike]

We need more information on this set up?

http://www.donzi.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=43890&d=1236222553

[Trueser]

Mike,
Your picture resize is wacked.

[BigGrizzly]

T man tell us how you really feel:D

[Trueser]

after looking at that picture.

hungry

:chilipepp:

[gero1]

looks like a couple briskets and a p t.l

[farmer tx]

CJ, That is a 125 gallon propane tank with a door cut in it and a fire box attached. It wont hold propane anymore so I just cook on it. Robert got it brisket and pork loin.:party:

[Trueser]

Robert,
Pack some shine and get on the road with Grizz.

Otherwise we may have to do a conf call.

[Trueser]

resize test

[txtaz]

It worked Mike. Good program isn't it?

This could turn out to be a big shin dig. (or shine if Gero shows)

Hey RT, are you coming?

I think I need to make some Texas salsa for this get together and the poodle can eat from Marks jar. I remember some Floridian saying a snide remark at Cumberland about the heat.

I cleared it with Mrs. Taz and I'll be there on Thursday. Anyone need picked up? I could swing by the airport on the way to Marks.

Da Taz

[Trueser]

Hey RT, are you coming?

Always welcome in Texas....

[gero1]

we want to see pictures!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BigGrizzly]

Robbert, If you and I had not had other things to do we would not need pictures, just bad timing on my part.

[Trueser]

We will be posting pictures.

Mostly of the food that Mark has been getting ready.

[farmer tx]

Lets get back on the correct thread...

[farmer tx]

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[ITTLFLI]

WOW! Looks fantastic! :yes::wrench:

[olredalert]

-------Floating artwork!!!!!!!!.........Bill S

[BigGrizzly]

Ok which post are you going to use or do I have to toggle from one to the other. I am really sorry I did not make it.

[FISHIN SUCKS]

That looks fantatstic! The shade of blue looks a shade off, maybe you should redo that!!! jus kiddin'

[Trueser]

Ok which post are you going to use or do I have to toggle from one to the other. I am really sorry I did not make it.


This is the one.

[farmer tx]

take a side shot showing the cav plate/bullet relation to the bottom of the hull...


Will these do?

[BUIZILLA]

that'll work..

all three are the same height... :yes:

[Trueser]

Jim
Can you take a picture of your mounts? We did confirm the the stringer height is the same.

Thanks.

[BUIZILLA]

10-4

will do in the morning, both of them are next to each other

[BigGrizzly]

Guys before I did the Konrad I did measure mine and I had measured it at least once a year due to memory and discussions about which drive is lower or better. Any way with my TRS bottom ventilation plate parallel (level) with the bottom of the bottom of the hull, my ventilation plate was just under 3/4 inches above the bottom of the hull. As close as I can tell Farmer Tex's is the same position. I did not however measure the prop shaft height, but it is easy to figure that out. The answer to your next question is yes the Konrad is shorter. As for Marks boat it looks aw some. If I only had the funds, I would be living with Mike or Pearson. You just can not do better then that.:yes::yes::yes:

[BUIZILLA]

Trueser........

pic's sent

[Trueser]

Guys before I did the Konrad I did measure mine and I had measured it at least once a year due to memory and discussions about which drive is lower or better. Any way with my TRS bottom ventilation plate parallel (level) with the bottom of the bottom of the hull, my ventilation plate was just under 3/4 inches above the bottom of the hull. As close as I can tell Farmer Tex's is the same position. I did not however measure the prop shaft height, but it is easy to figure that out. The answer to your next question is yes the Konrad is shorter. As for Marks boat it looks aw some. If I only had the funds, I would be living with Mike or Pearson. You just can not do better then that.:yes::yes::yes:

Randy,
We are checking the X on the Crits. Do you have the measurement from the bottom of the hull to the bottom of the drive? It may have changed with the conrad. Also can you check the inside and outside stringer measurement?


Thanks for the comments...

[BUIZILLA]

Grizz, if it's easier go from the hull bottom edge to the stud/nut face on the trim line manifold

[Trueser]

Grizz, if it's easier go from the hull bottom edge to the stud/nut face on the trim line manifold


Are Conrads the same?

[BigGrizzly]

T man do you the transom plate or the actual drive itself. The foot print of the Konrad is exactly the same minus 1/16 border. It fits in the same holes as the TRS. and the input shaft is the same. The drive Lower leg is shorter than the TRS, which brings the prop shaft 1.7 inches higher than the TRS. This is their measurement but mine is 2.1 inches. All the hardware is in exactly the same spots like the external hydraulic steering. I will get the measurements of the transom plate in the morning.

[BigGrizzly]

I did not get to the measurements today I was making fittings for my new power steering pump.

[farmer tx]

I need to thank the three M's, Mike, Matt and Madpoodle for their help last weekend on project critter. There are not many places that friends will travel across the country to help a guy rig a boat. In three day they helped me accomplish what was at least three weeks work or more, and many trips in and out of the bilge. Also having a great time doing it. The problem solving of four combined minds was great, not everything fell into place. We also missed the supervision of the BigGrizzly, wish you could have made it down Randy. I here there are going to be 4 criterions at AOTH, hope I can make it 5. As of today I have a huge selection of stainless steel hardware that I need to sort and inventory.

Thanks again,
Mark

[BigGrizzly]

Mark I am really sorry I could not make it. I had a Dr appointment that could not be changed and my god son's birth day on Saturday, which I had promised to attend last September. I would have been able to do some stand up work just not bilge duty. In a way it was better. I would have come home and been pissed because your boat is so good and beautiful. I first say both Poodles and Cliff's boats new i n boat showes and If my memory serves me correctly yours is better done. Right now my Criterion is dirty and engineless, but working on it, sloooooowly.

[farmer tx]

We are going to have wind gusts to 60 mph tomorrow, so I may just stay in the shop and work on it. As long as you are making progress Randy you will get there.:yes:

[BigGrizzly]

Some how I will make it. I have hated the inside of my engine compartment. It still won't look great but at least I will know where everything is. I really wanted to re do the complete wire harness but after I started I found out I bit off more then I wanted to chew. At this point I have an empty bilge, an engine that should be refreshed, and a sore back after getting stuck between the seat tub and the boat side. The good part is I got out that darn pesky wire that did not go anywhere:cussball: I have 29 days to get the engine done and dynoed and back in or pay hell with the wife:eek::eek::eek: She actually said " I got you the Konrad now get your butt in gear I want the boat sea trialed for at least 5 hours before we go to Cumberland":lightning:lightning:lightning

[farmer tx]

Just so the March Critter Crew doesn't think I've been sitting around on my thumb, here are some update pics of the engine compartment. I've had to fab some brackets for the remote oil filter mount, the barrel canon plug, and ignition control. Also it took a while to plumb the fuel delivery system from Raycor to Demon. It's just mocked up now because the exhaust needs to come back off to give better access to the engine compartment. After harvest I will start on the dash wiring, and get the dash inserts reproduced.:smash::nilly:
Try to look past the West Texas dust.

[farmer tx]

Do you want a larger pic of my avatar or do you want individual shots?

[BigGrizzly]

I was hoping to see it at PK, guess I will have to wait.

[farmer tx]

Griz, should have it done by AOTH 2010.:smash::drive:

[farmer tx]

Update comming soon!:wrench::smash::us-texas:

[farmer tx]

Took about three weeks in January to get the OEM gauges wired and operating. I was able to remove some repetitive wires under the dash and clean it up some. It took some time fixing some cold solders in the switches, but everything works now. I'm waiting for a few odds and ends to show up and will try to fire the engine this week, weather permitt:)ing.

[farmer tx]

Before and after transom shots. I'm waiting on a piece of 4" exhaust hose to finish plumbing the exhaust.

[farmer tx]

A couple of views from the transom.

[farmer tx]

The last time I drove this boat my hands were really full. The drive trim is located on the right upper dash, thetrim tabs are on the right lower dash. Just wasn't comfortable moving my hand from the throttle to the two trim switches and back again. So I mounted a remote set of drive trim switches in the floor. It should make things a little smoother.

[Conquistador_del_mar]

The last time I drove this boat my hands were really full. The drive trim is located on the right upper dash, thetrim tabs are on the right lower dash. Just wasn't comfortable moving my hand from the throttle to the two trim switches and back again. So I mounted a remote set of drive trim switches in the floor. It should make things a little smoother.

Mark,
Looking very good. Your drive trim reminds me of how much better I liked the high/low beam switch on the floorboard instead of reaching for the lever switches now. Take care, Bill

[gcarter]

Aren't all those 10,000 last details so much fun?

It's looking good Mark!

[farmer tx]

Thanks Bill and George. I ran across another photo, the battery selector switch. Since the boat has a hydraulic hatch, in the old mounting configuration the switch was mounted behind my heels on the front of the seat base. I was always hitting it. I found this recessed switch mount at http://www.ssicustomplastics.com/images/ssicatalog.pdf
It gets the switch out of the way.

[thehow33]

Hey Mark it all looks great...very clean wiring.

[19donziz29]

I can't wait to see it complete at AOTH Mark!

[BigGrizzly]

Mark I put a turn signal type from teleflex on my boat so I can one finger it and never take the hand off the wheel. I omce did the floor switch and missed the correct buttpn at the wrong time. Now of course with a bad leg the floor switch isn't an option.

[farmer tx]

Mark I put a turn signal type from teleflex on my boat so I can one finger it and never take the hand off the wheel. I omce did the floor switch and missed the correct buttpn at the wrong time. Now of course with a bad leg the floor switch isn't an option.

Randy, I never thought about a turn signal type, if my knees get any worse I may have to go that way.

[farmer tx]

I can't wait to see it complete at AOTH Mark!

Matt, it should be there. Ran into a little glitch today. FMT put a 1 1/5" filler neck in the new tank instead of a 2". Already had the new 2" fuel filler bedded into the deck before I noticed it. Just so happens I ordered a 1 1/2" filler access by misstake on ebay, it worked out ok, just should have looked at the mechanical drawing of the tank a little better befor I authorized the it.

:doh:

[farmer tx]

Hey Mark it all looks great...very clean wiring.

Hope to be running with you at AOTH in a couple months Howie.

[thehow33]

Hope to be running with you at AOTH in a couple months Howie.


You will, I have the front of the motor done (pulleys, brackets, adjusting brackets are all mounted). I have the oil system ready. I ended up just getting the hardin-marine block adapter because the inlet and outlet fittings are 3/4" so I wouldn't be downsizing them at all. I feel safer with 3/4" rather than 1/2" to 3/4" then back to 1/2" since I have an oil bypass.
Now i'm just waiting for my fuel and oil lines to come in. I already have all the fittings for them. And lastly I'm waiting for my ignition and carb to come in now. Engine compartment is completed.

[gero1]

you kids and your toys!!!!!! all looks good to me, roll on gentlemen and see ya at aoth!