volvo props

[mattyboy]

cleaning out the garage have the following props if anyone is interested all ran on a volvo 250 thru 290 all left hand rotation


1 23 pitch michigan round eared alum prop used once in great shape just some black paint missing they don't make anything over a 21 pitch now $125

1 26 pitch SS cleaver in great shape $200

1 25 pitch SS chopper in good shape $ 175

1 custom made spinneli brothers( no longer around) SS ski prop 21 pitch made for skiing in good shape $300

1 24 pitch SS volvo ultra in great shape very hard to find $400

this doesn't include shipping or if your close I can meet you someplace that works

[mk32j]

Matty,
is the ultra RH or LH???

[mattyboy]

all are LH

[mk32j]

matty,
15/24/ LH?

[mattyboy]

they didn't make the ultra in a 15 dia. it is like 14 1/4 or 14 and a half I'll check tonite

[mk32j]

Really interested!!!! Let me know!!!
Thanks

[mattyboy]

here are a few pics it is a 14 by 24 lh Ultra

[mattyboy]

MK you there??

[bmc69]

cleaning out the garage have the following props if anyone is interested all ran on a volvo 250 thru 290 all left hand rotation



1 custom made spinneli brothers( no longer around) SS ski prop 21 pitch made for skiing in good shape $300


this doesn't include shipping or if your close I can meet you someplace that works

Could you post or PM me a pic of this prop? Thanks.

[mattyboy]

sure when i get home tonight

[mattyboy]

here's pics of the SS spinelli it's 14 1/4 X 21 was $475 new in 1998 custom made by the Spinelli Brothers

[bmc69]

here's pics of the SS spinelli it's 14 1/4 X 21 was $475 new in 1998 custom made by the Spinelli Brothers

Forgive my confusion but..that has the thru-hub exhaust details and my 270 is the old style with the tail cone and solid prop hub..as I thought yrs all were too from your description and the pics of the other prop. What am I missing?

Thanks

Bill

[mattyboy]

this was the prop that was on my boat when I got it, the previous owner had it made by Spinelli to pull his wife skiing, I ran this prop for about 4 seasons without a problem on an older non thru hub vovlvo 250, from what I gathered Spinelli had a blank prop for the volvo sx at that time then tweaked the blades for the boat and the purpose of the prop speed or skiing bow lift stern lift and pressed the hub in for the old volvos, this prop ran on my 250 and a 270 no problem


all the other props I listed did as well with the correct thrust washer/ spacer



the prop is specifically designed to plane the boat and if i gunned it on my 16 I could stand the boat on it tail pipes right from the get go, with the tabs down it acted like a mastercraft, it was hooked up to the water I pulled my friends shoulder out of the socket trying to get his fat azz up ( not a joke that really happened) but it was not the best speed or rpm prop for hi speed cruise or keeping up with the big boys


the cleaver has the thru hub setup as well as it probably was on a merc before someone pressed the volvo hub into it

[mattyboy]

here's a pic of it on the 16 with the 250 if you look closely in the pics in the last post Spinelli pressed a michigan hub into it so it would fit the old aquamatics this pic is alil fuzzy

[bmc69]

Thanks for the detailed explanation..and it sounds exactly like what I'm looking for. My 16 has a lot of prop and the engine is 'weak' below about 4500 RPM..so the combination won't ski a squirrel.

I've had my 16 for sale but am having second thoughts. I want that prop if I do keep the boat and that decision is only a week or so away. Hopefully I'll be back at ya shortly.

[mattyboy]

TTT

i need to clean out the garage, none of these fit on the new yammie the ultra is a good deal they are on ebay for well over $500 bucks

[mattyboy]

last call they head to a marina by me at the end of the week


if you are close by and want to try one drag the boat up the lake is thawed ;)

[Sweet little 16]

any pics of alum michigan prop

[Just Say N20]

Matty,
Any of those worth a look for my new 1967 16 Ski Sporter? Volvo 290 outdrive with a 300 hp Volvo (Earl's old boat).
He wouldn't part with the "Griz Special" prop, so it has an unknown Volvo aluminum prop on it. I haven't had the boat in the water yet, so I can't give you any performance information, but I understand you are familiar with this boat.
Thanks.
Bill

[mattyboy]

the boat has a replacement Volvo penta performance 300 hp motor that went in when the 290 went on as a complete package. The outdrive is an "A" ratio which is a 1.3 : 1. spending sometime with Earl he had a few props like mine but he couldn't pull alot of them as they were to high in pitch for that motor drive package. You will have to stay away from anything over a 23 pitch or so as getting on plane will be a problem as Earl found out trying to spin a 26 chopper.

The spinelli would be a good choice . it is a 21 pitch and should let the motor get up into it's rpm range, it also planes very quickly it was designed for skiing and custom built by the Spinelli Brothers. The 23 alum. might work as well The 24 SS ultra will be too much but I do have a 22 SS ultra that needs a new hub the prop is in great shape just spun the hub that prop is $175

[mattyboy]

TTT

any of these can be brought to lake george this week if you want let me know I will only carry them along if someone is interested

[f_inscreenname]

You still have the chopper?

[mattyboy]

yes
:yes:

[DonziBuoy]

Matty, and anyone with a 270 v/p outdrive.
I am going crazy trying to get my 1974 16 ski sporter boat ready for the water - I have a bronze 3 blade that was definitely not made for this boat, the hub is about an inch less than the outdrive diameter, which I am worried will cause cavitation (the exhaust now exits thru hull) - although I have yet to try it, my guess is the pitch is a short 13-15 I 'll be lucky is I get to 30 mph. I will know when I open her up - the 350 engine has been modified, certainly looks good, but only trial will tell what she will do - I have 2 right drive s/s props which are absolutely mint. I have been "told" that they are hubbed for the boat, but somehow, I don't think so.
Is there a way to tell the pitch if it is not stamped on the blade? My thinking is a block and a piece of paper with a pencil attached to the blade (?)
My question is would it be OK to shift directions of the outdrive for the right hand blades I have (one is a michigan 24P 3 blade the other is a chopper 25p 3 blade. my concern is if they are designed to turn left, should I stick with it?
Thanks again for all of your help, which has been priceless.
Jim

[mattyboy]

Matty, and anyone with a 270 v/p outdrive.
I am going crazy trying to get my 1974 16 ski sporter boat ready for the water - I have a bronze 3 blade that was definitely not made for this boat, the hub is about an inch less than the outdrive diameter, which I am worried will cause cavitation (the exhaust now exits thru hull) - although I have yet to try it, my guess is the pitch is a short 13-15 I 'll be lucky is I get to 30 mph. I will know when I open her up - the 350 engine has been modified, certainly looks good, but only trial will tell what she will do - I have 2 right drive s/s props which are absolutely mint. I have been "told" that they are hubbed for the boat, but somehow, I don't think so.
Is there a way to tell the pitch if it is not stamped on the blade? My thinking is a block and a piece of paper with a pencil attached to the blade (?)
My question is would it be OK to shift directions of the outdrive for the right hand blades I have (one is a michigan 24P 3 blade the other is a chopper 25p 3 blade. my concern is if they are designed to turn left, should I stick with it?
Thanks again for all of your help, which has been priceless.
Jim


I would run it with what you have first, get the serial number
off of the outdrive that will tell you the ratio of the drive hopefully no one changed the lower. the drive can be switched from lh to rh but they made them lh helm lh rotation for a reason the right hand rotation can be squirelly with a lh helm if the prop has alot of torque. run the boat get a feel for her before you go changing props my guess is it is a 20 or 21 pitch bronze prop which are pretty common on the volvos.

people will say that spinning right puts more stress on the upper than spinning left
I put a rh drive that was 35 years old on my 16 changed it to left and no problems so it spun right for 35 and now is still spinning left for another 5 years don't worry about it they are tough drives.

test it find the ratio and I have something that will probably work for you

[Tank]

Hi Mattyboy
Do you know where I can get a 22 ultra rehubed?:crossfing: If you still have one for sale?
I might go BOATING this evening and try my 24 ultra see if she will spin it or not.
Brian

[mattyboy]

I will check today i think precision propellor in newburgh ny can push a new hub in it, they need to press a michigan hub in it the original volvo hub was weak
if you go to moose head show them the 24 and see if they have someone they work with

[Tank]

ask moose head good thought.
Wish me luck with the weather and my 24.
Brian

[mattyboy]

yup the weather here has been iffy storms strong ones whip up out of no where, my neighbor lost his car this week a tree fell and squashed it thank the Lord no one was in it at the time

[mattyboy]

just a note here about the volvo ultra hubs, looks like this thread will shed some light on pressing a michigan hub into an ultra

Frank think you still have the pics of the props

http://www.donzi.net/forums/showthread.php?t=499&highlight=ultra

[mattyboy]

Ttt......

[Tank]

Hy you sill have my prop?
Brian:wink:

[mattyboy]

I have not sold any yet not sure which one you were looking at
let me know

things are slowing down for a few weeks so if you want to test them let me know I can do Sat or Sun or Mon mornings and Tue or Wed after work

then in Aug we are bokked up getting my daughter off to college

[Tank]

Hi 14x22 ultra
Brian
will see you soon.

[DonziBuoy]

I would run it with what you have first, get the serial number
off of the outdrive that will tell you the ratio of the drive hopefully no one changed the lower. the drive can be switched from lh to rh but they made them lh helm lh rotation for a reason the right hand rotation can be squirelly with a lh helm if the prop has alot of torque. run the boat get a feel for her before you go changing props my guess is it is a 20 or 21 pitch bronze prop which are pretty common on the volvos.
people will say that spinning right puts more stress on the upper than spinning left
I put a rh drive that was 35 years old on my 16 changed it to left and no problems so it spun right for 35 and now is still spinning left for another 5 years don't worry about it they are tough drives.
test it find the ratio and I have something that will probably work for you

Matty,

I have taken it out twice - The bronze Ellis prop lh is a 21 pitch which was made for an inboard as the hub is about 1/1/2 " smaller than the drive unit. It is a great prop, and pulls hard and right out until about 3200 RPM, when it seems like its run out of gas. What I think is happening, is I am cavitating and just spinning the prop. I have ordered a spacer for the RH props and I will see how they perform, but I am thinking 23 pitch would be about right. Let you know - DO you still have one?

[mattyboy]

I think a 22 ultra would work I don't have mine anymore but I think Penbroke here has one


just a quick note to all the new owners of older donzi's with older volvo AQ's you have to research the long hub/shaft vs the short hub/shaft.

with the right thrust washer( you need a few) the right prop nut or drilling and tapping the prop shaft for the bolt thru the prop cone

any hub will run on any shaft, all of the props i have are long shaft and they ran on both a long shaft 270 and a short shaft 250

so it can be done very easily


http://www.donzi.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40452&highlight=long+shaft+short

[bzsmarina]

hello, do you still have the 25 and 26 pitch props? also do you have the spacers you used for them? will thay go with the props? if so how much? thanks bz

[mattyboy]

update

the ultras sold

this is what i have left


the 26 cleaver

http://www.donzi.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=17619&d=1138544941


the 25 chopper

http://www.donzi.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=17622&d=1138545203

the custom 21 spinelli

http://www.donzi.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=17625&d=1138545290


the alum michigan 23 elephant ear

http://www.donzi.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=17631&d=1138545534

[bzsmarina]

i would like to buy the 26 cleaver and the 25 chooper. do you have any of the spacers for them? what would be a package price? thanks bz

[mattyboy]

no spacers, both props $375 plus shipping or if you have a deal with a shipping co you can order a pickup ticket

I can pack them up and they can come get them

[DonziBuoy]

I think a 22 ultra would work I don't have mine anymore but I think Penbroke here has one
just a quick note to all the new owners of older donzi's with older volvo AQ's you have to research the long hub/shaft vs the short hub/shaft.
with the right thrust washer( you need a few) the right prop nut or drilling and tapping the prop shaft for the bolt thru the prop cone
any hub will run on any shaft, all of the props i have are long shaft and they ran on both a long shaft 270 and a short shaft 250
so it can be done very easily
http://www.donzi.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40452&highlight=long+shaft+short


Matty,
With my 16 I am pushing out a lot of HP thru the 270, do you think the spinelli would work?
Jim

[blackboat]

That chopper would work good if you have enough horsepower to turn it 4800 to 5500. Ran one blueprinted by spinelli on my 1969 corsican with a 270 volvo turned it 5100 rpm. Friend of mine had one on his x18 donzi with a 400+ ci small block turning it 6500 rpm . they work. Spinelli worked wonders on these props but I heard he was closing shop

[mattyboy]

spinelli has been gone for a few years now

the 21 I have I spun to about 5500 I had about 310-320 hp

[blackboat]

Sorry To hear that. He was, in my opinion one of the best prop guys around for a long time !

[mattyboy]

from what I know there were brothers and they retired and no one wanted the business

[DonziBuoy]

Mattyboy,

Do you still have the Spinelli? Where in NY are you? I am just east of Queens.

Jim

[mattyboy]

yes,


I am about an hour NW of new york city in Orange County

[mattyboy]

last call the hit ebay at the end of the week

26 SS cleaver $200 plus shipping

25 SS chopper $175 plus shipping

21 SS Spinelli $300 plus shipping

23 Alum michigan $125 plus shipping

[bzsmarina]

please save me that 26 cleaver. ill take it the end of next week. thank you

[mattyboy]

the cleaver and chopper sold locally this weekend , the michigan is on ebay
the spinelli will be put up next

[KSDLBD]

your's is an old post; surely by now you've sold the Ultra??