MOP
07-17-2008, 10:15 AM
So as not to hijack the gas tipping post started this one!
TIPS To Insure Proper Service!
I think tipping has gotten way out of hand, most restaurants in my area automatically tack on 15-20% and you have to pay even if the wait person did a poor job. Wait staff make exceptional $$ a lot more then many realize, I have first hand up close input. Bonnie's daughter bar tends on the weekends, her average night exceeds $500 and has hit $700 in one night, that is $1,000 to $1,400 a weekend! Yeah she is good looking which helps. Another very close friends daughter waitresses during college break, I am close enough to ask and get an honest answer. She has for the last three years averaged just over $30,000 in the just under three months roughly $2,500 a five day week. My favorite waitress of many years at a local upscale place was saving to open her own business which she finally did, Bonnie and I spoke with her a few weeks back and she said she really missed the $2,500 to $3,000 a week she was making and was sure she was going back to waitressing. Not long ago the was a thing on CH7 news about how bad it has gotten, many people had cut down the nights out. The wait staffs in NYC average about $100 to 125,000 with matradi's making over $250,000
It boils down to unskilled labor making two to five times the national average workers salary which is $48,000! Like I said in the intro it is way out of hand and truly unfair to the average guy/gal that must have decent skills/education to meet the national average income level.
Granted this does not hold true in all areas of out nation, but it is something that bears thought.
I am a tipper and usually double the tax (8.75%) on any bill when served properly, but it burns my buns when I get crappy to average service and have 15-20% is tacked on the bill. TIPS should be earned by the level of service!
Now to my favorite place Costa Rica, when I first started going down tipping was not done even in the larger restaurants. They were paid a salary and and did not expect tips, like most gringos I would leave a little something and the family would always frown. Then CR got popular and now due to the big spenders from other places are starting to adopt the tip included in the bill.
Up at Alexandria Bay Cavallario's Steak & Seafood House pressed theft of services charges on a customer that was unhappy with the service and refused to pay the included tip! Yes the customer had to come back up and go to court and lost the case.
I feel I have made a point to be pondered, tipping should always be done for proper service and not jammed down our throats. Service has suffered somewhat due to these practices as win lose or draw they get their tip!
TIPS To Insure Proper Service!
I think tipping has gotten way out of hand, most restaurants in my area automatically tack on 15-20% and you have to pay even if the wait person did a poor job. Wait staff make exceptional $$ a lot more then many realize, I have first hand up close input. Bonnie's daughter bar tends on the weekends, her average night exceeds $500 and has hit $700 in one night, that is $1,000 to $1,400 a weekend! Yeah she is good looking which helps. Another very close friends daughter waitresses during college break, I am close enough to ask and get an honest answer. She has for the last three years averaged just over $30,000 in the just under three months roughly $2,500 a five day week. My favorite waitress of many years at a local upscale place was saving to open her own business which she finally did, Bonnie and I spoke with her a few weeks back and she said she really missed the $2,500 to $3,000 a week she was making and was sure she was going back to waitressing. Not long ago the was a thing on CH7 news about how bad it has gotten, many people had cut down the nights out. The wait staffs in NYC average about $100 to 125,000 with matradi's making over $250,000
It boils down to unskilled labor making two to five times the national average workers salary which is $48,000! Like I said in the intro it is way out of hand and truly unfair to the average guy/gal that must have decent skills/education to meet the national average income level.
Granted this does not hold true in all areas of out nation, but it is something that bears thought.
I am a tipper and usually double the tax (8.75%) on any bill when served properly, but it burns my buns when I get crappy to average service and have 15-20% is tacked on the bill. TIPS should be earned by the level of service!
Now to my favorite place Costa Rica, when I first started going down tipping was not done even in the larger restaurants. They were paid a salary and and did not expect tips, like most gringos I would leave a little something and the family would always frown. Then CR got popular and now due to the big spenders from other places are starting to adopt the tip included in the bill.
Up at Alexandria Bay Cavallario's Steak & Seafood House pressed theft of services charges on a customer that was unhappy with the service and refused to pay the included tip! Yes the customer had to come back up and go to court and lost the case.
I feel I have made a point to be pondered, tipping should always be done for proper service and not jammed down our throats. Service has suffered somewhat due to these practices as win lose or draw they get their tip!