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smoothie
03-31-2008, 03:16 PM
Looks like it works in the video.
http://www.runyourcarwithwater.com/?hop=opmind&gclid=clekmsssujicfqigpaodrlq7kg

Last Tango
04-03-2008, 03:03 PM
I have seen this before, and in a variety of different configuations and media. Techically it should work. Electrolysis of water (H2O) is a simple thing to do. I did such a project in the 5th grade for the annual science fair in school. Electrifying the water separated the Oxygen and the Hydrogen, which can then be collected (in my project it inflated two separate balloons). One can use either hydrogen gas or oxygen gas to increase the volatility of the air/fuel mixture. In the most basic form, no petroleum fuel is actually necessary to create combustion as both hydrogen and oxygen are plenty volatile just by themselves. Remember the three basic requirements for fire? Heat, oxygen, fuel (could be old oily rags in your garage - a common source of spontaneous combustion).

Since this has been around for 150 years, why didn't someone do this instead of going through the original process of spending hundreds of billions of dollars to perfect the distillation of petroleum, long before anyone cared.
The reason is that it takes MORE energy to electrify the water than can be captured and produced from the released gases in the process.

So adding it as a supplement to the regular fuel systems could easily improve the mileage just like any can of oxygen heavy fuel suppliment. It just takes more energy to produce the free gases than those same gases provide to the drive systems.

smoothie
04-04-2008, 10:08 AM
So then using it with gas wont increase your millage any or not enough to mess with ??? the 40% that he claims sounds pretty good...

justleft
04-04-2008, 10:43 AM
It's a scam

Check Wikipedia.

"The HHO trademark is associated with an unproven state of matter called magnegases, and a discredited theory about magnecules (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnecule)[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyhydrogen#cite_note-20) [22] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyhydrogen#cite_note-21) which has formed the basis for a number of fraudulent claims, and water-fuelled car (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-fuelled_car) scam attempts similar to the water fuel cell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fuel_cell) hoax."

They just want your $100 for a manual. For that kind of $$ it better be printed on real nice paper !!!!

smoothie
04-04-2008, 11:26 AM
But from the Wikipedia link:

" To fuel a hydrogen car from water, energy from a power plant is used to generate hydrogen from electrolysis, which is then either burned in the car's engine or merged with oxygen to create water via a fuel cell. Both methods produce energy used to create motion. The car ultimately receives its energy from the power plant, with the hydrogen acting as an energy carrier. "

VetteLT193
04-04-2008, 11:38 AM
All I have to say is: people are greedy. If this really worked, someone would be making a whole lot more than 50 bucks off of it...

Last Tango
04-04-2008, 11:45 AM
Oh, the "process" of using electrolysis for hydrogen and oxygen fuels does work, and could fuel cars. What hasn't worked is the realization that in order to create enough of either gas, you would have to attached a railcar full of water, and a second railcar with the atomic energy plant.
This process is constantly revisted, but the physics hasn't changed. And it has been VERY profitable to the sellers of the books. LOL!

P.T. Barnum all the way...

smoothie
04-04-2008, 01:34 PM
Got it! :wink: so then what about saltwater ???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6vSxR6UKFM

MOP
04-04-2008, 02:03 PM
Years back I ran water/alcohol injection on one of my cars, it (seemed) to improve mileage and did give a little boost in power. The mileage thing was hard to judge as I had a lead foot! More recently one of my clients has a gas powered 43 Viking, when he the owner flipped the switch at cruise the tach climbed 100 RPM so it did in fact increase power. I have often wondered how much the systems have improved. This post got me poking around and they appear to have gotten much better. During World War II aircraft used water injection for more power, it may be worth fooling around with again. One interesting site is below, there seems to be quite a few.

Phil