That's it, I'm through with UPS

[gold-n-rod]

Yes, I've read all of the threads across the internet about people butthurt by the guys (and gals) in the brown shorts. Add me to the list.
I had a parcel sit around for 2 weeks while they claim they "tried to find a suite number" for my address. Bastiges....... all they had to do was ask a humanoid in my building who/where I was. Finally, they sent it back to the sender. :confused: He/we now have to pay again to have it shipped from NY to MI.
I will never again ship UPS. There are plenty of alternatives. Please join me. UPS sux.

[TXDONZI]

I have never had ANY problems with UPS. Now Fed-Ex is a different story.

[DonziFreak]

I have never had ANY problems with UPS. Now Fed-Ex is a different story.


same here....Fed-Ex always gives me all kinds of issues....UPS does just fine for me

[vonkamp]

I've had my problems with UPS. They totally destroyed a shipment to me and denied my claim for over a year (it was fully insured from UPS). I finally had to get an attorney to send them a letter to get them to pay. A couple weeks later, they had the audacity to show up at my door looking to get the shipment back. :smash:

[Formula Jr]

Welcome back to the fold. USPS isn't so bad... now is it?

It may not get there on time. But it will get there.
Its the new, old:.......And when you have made a value of what its worth, USPS is not a screw around.
They just cut you a check. Straight out. If its lost.

UPS doesn't work that way. You have to deal with them. And they want to figure it out with you. It is their problem to deliver something: Not mine. They messed that up too often: And said it was my fault too often.

USPS never says you messed up. That isn't the culture of that place. If you drop it off with the right address and the right amount of money, it gets there: One way or the other, it gets there.

There is a clearer thy in that.


then again UPS is isn't o mad...

God damn they made me say that...


AAAAAHHHH AasaahhhGgGGGGGGGGGAAAAAAAA!!!!

[Trueser]

Fed-ex does great fo me...

[Cuda]

I have never had ANY problems with UPS. Now Fed-Ex is a different story.
I've head problems with almost every delivery service at one time or another, including the USPS. Just last week, I sent a guy in Pinellas his paycheck last Friday. He got it today. It's normally one day from here to there.

[Carl C]

Remember when UPS went on strike a few years ago? They didn't even have the decency to deliver the packages that they had already picked up. I had a Ford Mustang part that I badly needed tied up for weeks. I admit that I still use UPS for large packages but I use USPS for packages that they can handle - they're cheaper. Randy maybe I'll switch to Fed-Ex too.:smash:

[justleft]

I had a switch coming for NYC. Didn't show and my tracking
# started just saying ERROR. Called UPS and was told
that the delivery info was distroyed and they sent the package back.

They also said that a post card was mailed to me informing me that
the package was returned. I asked how could UPS send me a post card
if you don't have my address. Their reply was, "That is for the post office to
figure out". :bonk:

I then asked if you can match me to the package by the tracking # and the
Email I received from UPS providing that tracking # also had my address.
Then how come you couldn't deliver ? Their answer, "Sir, I am not a computer expert". :bonk:

Guess what I never received that post card. Durn post office. :wink:

[Carl C]

Randy, your last thread about the USPS becoming obsolete turned into a political hot potato so I bit my tongue but Formula Jr was right about the need for a government controlled mail and parcel service that cannot strike or be sold to a foreign country. They take a lot of heat but I have rarely had trouble with them. For smaller packages I highly recommend our own USA owned USPS.

[gcarter]

I used to get a floppy weekly of home closings. This was before everyone had email. The service I got it from was in Crystal River, 50 miles from Leesburg. It took 5-6 days to receive it by USPS as it went (I think) from Crystal River to Tampa, to Jacksonville, to Orlando, and finally to Leesburg.
If I used UPS (didn't work pricewise), it got to me overnight.

Much more recently, I sent a camshaft to Itlfly by UPS. I rolled the cam up in a plastic garbage bag, slid it into a 3' long piece of 2" sch. 40 PVC pipe that I then capped at both ends. After about two weeks, Byron sent me an email saying he had received the lifters I had sent in a conventional cardboard box but no camshaft. I checked the tracking #'s and the cam had never left Leesburg. I guess the packaging was confusing to them. I entered a claim, time went by, claim wasn't paid for one reason after another. Finally the cam showed up on Byron's front door about two months after being sent. The piece of pipe was about 4" longer than the cam, and the excess pipe was broken off. Cam seemed to be OK. Maybe he'll comment.
I've had problems w/Fedex too though.

[VetteLT193]

Had my share of problems with USPS and FedEx. But not UPS.

The thing that really kills me with FedEx is the multiple locations, and you're supposed to figure out which one is which based on color of the "Ex" in the logo. In Tallahassee they are scattered all over town. Retarded.

[BUIZILLA]

GC, the cam packaged resembles a bomb, so UPS wacks the end off for a lookysee... they did it to me too.. after calling the Fed's first though.. :eek!:

[gold-n-rod]

Welcome back to the fold. USPS isn't so bad... now is it?
It may not get there on time. But it will get there.
Its the new, old:.......And when you have made a value of what its worth, USPS is not a screw around.
They just cut you a check. Straight out. If its lost.
UPS doesn't work that way. You have to deal with them. And they want to figure it out with you. It is their problem to deliver something: Not mine. They messed that up too often: And said it was my fault too often.
USPS never says you messed up. That isn't the culture of that place. If you drop it off with the right address and the right amount of money, it gets there: One way or the other, it gets there.
There is a clearer thy in that.
then again UPS is isn't o mad...
God damn they made me say that...
AAAAAHHHH AasaahhhGgGGGGGGGGGAAAAAAAA!!!!

Damn, Owen, I wish I had some of what yer smokin'.

I can't really tell what your incoherent ramblings are trying to say. If it's a callback to my "future of the USPS" thread, just remember, I wasn't knocking their service. I was ruminating about the future of a government-run enterprise vs. the private sector.

UPS isn't the USPS's only competition.

I shall continue (for the time being) to send paper via USPS at .41 a crack (even though it's a money-losing proposition for the good old USA). I think I'll take my parcel business to FedEx (and/or USPS when it's convenient).

And the guys in brown shorts can stay on my list that's the color of their trucks.

[Formula Jr]

UPS was the clear winner in parcel handling before they went public. If you can fit whatever it is in the flat rate boxes, then USPS is the clear winner now.

All you have to do is look at the current pricing.
UPS can't use the established drop off points of the postal system.. And the drivers, it seems, are encouraged to drop stuff off where ever they think is okay.

That isn't their fault. I've been a delivery route driver for a private company: Not UPS though. This what the boss says is okay to do sometimes. UPS seems to work under the same rules of averaging deliveries. I've seen crazy stuff where parcels are left in the woods near someone's driveway unsecured. UPS just leaves stuff somewhere around the point of destination and then leaves a note in your mail box that its hidden somewhere behind this or that. So I never want anyone to send me something UPS. There isn't a set rule that the parcel goes back to a secure place. USPS never does anything like that. Can't fit it in the rural box?, it goes to the main station. If no one picks it up, it goes back and USPS eats the cost.

One may think that's some sort of government socialism. But so are the public roads. When you go to the end of your driveway, is there a meter that says, "What's your destination?" and that it will cost this much to drive there on a totally private system of roads? No one would accept this. And is this really our culture?
Some things have to be common. The internet is a national and semi-national common right-of- way now, your taxes support it all, the hubs and supercomputers that do the parsing and heavy lifting are public and so far still in the US. No one here seems to complain about that. But there are forces that want to privatize it or at least get first shot at bandwidth and who comes first in look up tables. The first attempt at this got trashed by public opinion of people that understand how this works. That doesn't mean there will not be a second or third attempt to sell it off.


The postal thing is just a vector to what we take for granted now as public endeavors, like the public roads and the internet. Do you really want to privatize all these things?