privacy

[Formula Jr]

Is there still any sort of understanding about outdoor privacy?

The way property laws work, is that, in the US, and if you own your property, you own it all the way down to the center of the earth. But you don't own what is above it. Things are changing very rapidly. If there is no law preventing some sort of device from hovering over you and feeding images to the internet.

Do we have ANY right to outdoor privacy. Right now, I don't think we do.

I was very surprised that I could buy the U-2 stuff, camera images from some places I needed to look at many years ago. I was surprised that that even existed. Now this stuff is all private and available if you have the money. I do the earth google stuff, just to see what is online about my place. Its not an important site , so the sat photos are limited.

But what if you could for $29.99 Have a photo of your property? Available to anyone. Or worse yet, just up on the web for free? In REAL TIME.

think about it.......Its happening ...

[Cuda]

There is nowhere in the US Constitution that refers to a "Right to Privacy".

[Formula Jr]

this is not funny.

seeing you having sex with you wife, or whatever, in the back yard you own, open to the sky, and then someone putting that on Youtube, isn't my idea of the future.

[MOP]

You need a Gazebo!
The personal data bases on us are far more intrusive then many think, there is very little they do not know. Just keep slaving away and paying taxes and they will leave you alone!

[Carl C]

It's pretty amazing the detail that can be seen in a blown up satellite image that is available to anyone. I wonder what the resolution of military imaging is capable of? My main easy chair is right under a skylight and I have no doubt the the USA could maneuver a satellite above my home and watch me if they had reason to investigate me. Police also use low flying 'copters with infrared to look for hot spots in homes suspected of having pot growing rooms. Apparently anything goes from above but if you aren't involved in criminal activity then I wouldn't worry about it. If someone sees you having sex from above then they deserve to get an eyefull.:eek!:

[goatee]

this is not funny.
seeing you having sex with you wife, or whatever, in the back yard you own, open to the sky, and then someone putting that on Youtube, isn't my idea of the future.


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[SurfGreenTele]

Within limitations, the air rights above the earth's surface ARE considered the landowner's property. So someone flying an RC device or something fairly low over your house should be a violation.

[Cuda]

Within limitations, the air rights above the earth's surface ARE considered the landowner's property. So someone flying an RC device or something fairly low over your house should be a violation.
A violation of what? Other than a noise infraction, that's a local law, I doubt there is any statute that sees this as a violation.

[Formula Jr]

There is nothing on the books in my state that would prohibit someone from parking a camera over my property and feeding it to the net in real time as a web cam.


I love seeing what the outer edge of the internet is capable of. Its both interesting and somewhat frightening. I have a friend that does live in a zone covered by a Sat. Sometimes we try and see just how much information we can gather by only using web based information. Its something of a game and the main rule to the game is that the looker can not be tracked, its like googling yourself but a bit more advanced. Since my friend and I are communicating out side of the game, we can determine the accuracy of the information gained. I can tell when his daughter is home from college just by the sat images. I can also tell when he goes water skiing on his lake.


He is a good guy and I am a good guy, so nobody is doing anything nasty here. But still, I can get all this info and not be traced. its starting to get very wierd that someone else, any where in the world, can see the same things.

[Cuda]

They can track me anytime. I've got nothing to hide. The worse thing they will see is me pizzing off my back porch.

[rustnrot]

For my own education. GoogleEarth and the ilk are archived images, sometimes several years old, correct? The latest "street level" pics in GoogleEarth are snapshots in time, correct?

I did not realize that there were live real-time feeds anywhere from a satellite that showed the kind of detail that GoogleEarth does. But, that appears to be the case, correct?

[Tom Davis]

I have been in the high tech field for some time now and can tell you from personal experience that sat imaging can identify and target a human or read a news paper headline from orbit. I've seen the images and I'm currently involed in the R&D field of precision optical systems for that purpose.

It's all true, they are watching...

[Rootsy]

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Guaranteed to not only protect your privacy from above, but also to blind the optics who'd wish to do such. But only on sunny days of coure. YMMV

[vonkamp]

My grandmother (RIP) had a house in Siesta Key Fl. It is a beautiful place (for sale btw) and I was showing a friend on Google Earth her house. When I zoomed in, my pickup truck was in the driveway! So when they snapped that pic, I was down there. :eek!::eek!:

[yeller]

My concern would be if the public had access to real time feeds. The criminal type could determine your household schedule and enter when no one is home, or worse, enter when only a certain person is home.

That can be a frightening thought.

[Sweet little 16]

yeah alot of what has been said here is true, but has a mother of a teenage daughter I think about that poor girl just recently missing from the target store and the scetchy video's and think that in certain areas this technology should be used, and never mind criminals watching us how about a weekly email to every convicted sex offender just saying "I know what did and where you were last night with a copy of the video of them taking out their garbage and let the bad guys know we are watching them !!!!

[Formula Jr]

I guess we are all adjusting to the future in our own way.

As Yeller stated, I'm uncomfortable about what may be available in the near future to the W3 in real time as casual and free. People can give out what ever they want to on myspace and other places, that is their own dumb ass decision. Its the information about my life that I've lost control over that concerns me. The web is a wonderful concept. Yet, since its available to everyone in the world, the 1% of sociopaths that are out there, must be really happy about what they can find out so easily.

[MOP]

Got On Star? They Got You!!!!!!!!! It still knows where you are even if you quit paying for it!

[Formula Jr]

Got On Star? They Got You!!!!!!!!! It still knows where you are even if you quit paying for it!

Your subscriber knows where you are with in a small area when ever you have a cell phone on.. You don't get a ring when they look, its not like a land line. To conform to the 911 laws, if the phone is on and tracking antennas, your location is with-in a certain area. It has to be to make the 911 call.

I don't think people understand this stuff....

What if your location of an active cell phone, was also available on the w3 for free?
This is even a feature on some GPS phones right now.

MOP it isn't a question of if they will leave me alone. Anyone can hide. And anyone can say they have nothing to hide. This is not the point of the question. The point of the question is if there is any expectation of privacy any more when you are out doors.

And if you can count on that on your own property open to the sky and not in ground level public.