the saga of the aluminum MYCo trailer...

[roadtrip se]

Many of you are aware that we had a major trailering opportunity

[need for speed]

:confused: ooo sllllt .. i have the same trailer what the heck to do? on hold at myco now!!!!!!

[undertaker]

Todd, I am assuming my steel MYCO is OK or should I call Bill Tweedy just to be safe. Glad to hear you are getting taken care of....:)


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[need for speed]

ok talked to Don King.. he wants my trailer to fix some support stuff and fix the trailer floating problem, ....

means i got to tow it 200 miles up and back what a pain in sss...
:mad:
what should i do...:confused:

should a bought a bolt together trailer for 1/4 the price..:mad:

[need for speed]

next thurs 7 am ...

Myco tells me that Donzi changed the hull on the 22 some over the past few years,,, o really...


did the hull change ? I dont think it did , have n;t they used the same old molds since way back in time..

[Team Jefe]

[QUOTE=need for speed] ....means i got to tow it 200 miles up and back what a pain in sss...
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200 Miles, Charlie I've driven 200 miles for breakfast....take it up, drop the boat in the water and play for a wekend.....

Booo cracked Trailer welds

Hooray Beer:biggrin.:

TRIP - Glad things are workign out...you don't think that your great personality and have a couple of hotties only with help the Machine & Marine shop situation huh?:wink:

[RickSE]

WOW Todd, I've always wondered about fatigue on the welded-up aluminum trailers. Sure seems like they have to be built correctly to hold up. It's good to hear that MYCO is being so aggressive and standing behind the product.

My steel MYCO has held up pretty well although I do have some concerns about a few things on the trailer. For one, the tongue support seems to be incorrect. It holds the bow of the boat up too high, lifting it off the bunks in the front and it's actually stamped "DONZI 22Z" not "DONZI 22C" like the trailer. I've shuffled things around to make it work but I have to be careful to not pull the boat up too far forward or there will be a 2" gap under the front part on the bunks. To me the bow eye should come all the way up to the roller to lock the boat down but if I do that the front of the bunks has an air gap. Also all the bunk attachment nuts were non-locking and about half have fallen off or come loose; all have been replaced by s.s. nyloc's now. Still a great trailer though.

[undertaker]

Rick what year is your trailer same as your boat... Just Curious.


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[RickSE]

Rick what year is your trailer same as your boat... Just Curious.
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Yes, 2002. The front support just doesn't look or function right, too far away from the bow eye. Does yours look like this? Wondering if mine is for a 22ZX.

[need for speed]

looks like they changed them some... wish i had your jack

going to stop by my storage --check these welds out!

[undertaker]

Yes, 2002. The front support just doesn't look or function right, too far away from the bow eye. Does yours look like this? Wondering if mine is for a 22ZX.


Rick, NO mine does not look like that at all...my bow stop has 22 Donzi CL stamped on it and the same thing stamped on the trailer. I think I would bring that to the attention of MYCO and see what they say...

I will snap a picture of how mine looks and will post later today.


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[undertaker]

Also is your bow stop welded to trailer???

[undertaker]

Sorry forgot I already had pics go to the atlantic coast site and pull up my pics I have a few of the trailer in my gallery....


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[RickSE]

Also is your bow stop welded to trailer???

No, mine is bolted and a pain in the butt. It always slid back, shifting the boat back and screwing up the paint on the trailer, no matter how tightly I cranked on the bolts. Finally a few weeks ago I welded a stud on the bottom of the center support tube to keep it from sliding back again.

Thanks for the pic's. It's pretty obvious from the pictures that my support is way too high. Your winch is just off the top of the trailer jack, mine is 4-6 inches above.:confused: I think I'm going to just cut down and lower the height of the bow support roller. I just added my spare tire mount onto the center support, painted to match with a spare hub so I don't really want to change the entire support. I'll just make it work. But this finally answers my questions.

It works now but the boat also has a tendency to shift forward on rough roads even though it's tied down front & back.

[Donzi LG]

I don't know if this will help for comparison but here's a pic of my Myco and 22ZX.
John

[boxy]

Tripper, glad every thing is getting worked out.
1000 Islands Poker Run is next weekend, you might as well pick up the new MYCO and complete the journey ...... :D

[Ed Donnelly]

RTSE; Spoke to Donny at Entec today and told him to check out this thread.
He was tickled pink....He builds some pretty mean engines too..
It is nice to see people giving cudos to companies that go the extra step.
Seems there are people who really do care( little plug for a certain Texas company) Give me a holler when you come back up to get your trailor
Ed 416 984 2854

[need for speed]

vrrooooommm..

trailer sale sooon....:pimp
get me one of poodles trailers.... i am sure the bolts don't all fall out the same day !

[need for speed]

will stay calm.ehh. i think its these welds that broke. am i right

[gcarter]

Todd, I appreciate you're sharing that story with us.
I had heard that it had happened, and was interested in what happened. I've always been curious about welded aluminum trailers. There is such a potential for a major screw up. I think we all know the typical boat trailer isn't engineered in any formal way. Steel is about three times stronger than aluminum and what looks right for steel isn't going to cut it in aluminum.
I'm glad you had the breaks you did and found a responsive manufacturer and servicing dealer.
Good luck.
P. S.;
I think I'll stick with bolted. It's so much easier to repair and modify.

[undertaker]

Need, how the hell do you get your boat out of there....looks real tight:eek!: :eek!:



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[need for speed]

yes sir very ... .. its the only way I can get them to fit in the building :) extra 10 mins and ready to go..!!:wink: push .. push ... pull and ready to go!!!

[undertaker]

I see........:) :) :)


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PS Todd sorry to hijack your thread :bonk: :bonk:

[thescooter]

interesting?????????
is the trailer holding the boat or the boat holding the trailer. aluminum is used more and more on flat bed tractor trailers with no problem. the design may have to be changed for boat trailer for ex. go to a heavier load rating so you can travel with no problem.

[tiger lily]

ah yes, trailer repairs, ive welded up many equipment trailers that break, when boat trailers are built out of aluminum twice as much material is used, if its aluminum and built right, it will be no lighter than a steel trailer, the only aluminum trailer we have is for the proline which was bought in florida, my donzi rides on a eagle trailer and ive never once had a problem, i did completley disassemble it and have it sandblasted and then i repainted it and put donzi down the side.

[Dr. Dan]

:smash: Well...I am confident Bill Tweedy will make this all right... he is a standup guy and actually calls his Customers personally. Although the logistics are never convenient... it sounds like MYCO is being professional & showing genuine concern for all parties here!

Charlie...I would not even hesitate to drive 200 Miles...but I drive over 75,000 miles a year so I know I am warped...but come on... :bonk:

I think the lesson to be learned by all of this regardless of Trailer Manufacturer, is we all need to spend some time on our backs and knees and check out your Rig... on a regular basis. I think its an easy thing to just toss the Boat on there and head on down the road...(I am not suggesting that is what happened to Todd & Jill, or that Todd is not Anal about anything he has)... what I am saying is ...check your stuff out...look at the supports, check the Bolts,Washers and Nuts...

I can tell you that I do! I am always amazed at what I find when crawling around down there? I had my previous Trailer Split on me Twice...I rebuilt it 3 times before I was ordered to buy a New Trailer...by my Boat Minx, and stop wasting money on the Boats Original Trailer! Alot of us Tow quite a bit...others only a short distance... to me the New Trailer is the single best investment I made for our Donzi Package. But like our boats the Trailers take a real pounding running to the Lake,Launch or Donzi Events.... so spend some time and be proactive...just like you are with your boat! :wink:

Even though I ended up going with Steel & painted... it's been a great ride...if at the time I could have afforded an Aluminum Trailer equipt. the way I wanted... I would have done it in a heart beat.

I am glad to hear no one was hurt, and hope the resolution is to everyones expectations... I am sure MYCO will take care of everything as the professionals they are. :beer:

Good Luck Tripster...

Doc of the Bay :spongebob

[yeller]

Sounds like your being taken care of. The fact that your trailer broke wouldn't sway me from buying a MYCO. In fact, based on the response from MYCO, it makes the trailer even more appealing.
The only thing I would do, is ask MYCO to reimburse you the $100 repair. That'd be a lot cheaper than the lawsuit they would have had if you dumped your boat on the highway.

[boldts]

Todd, So glad you've been able to make the best out of a situation that would have had me freaking.....The thought that Jill is druging you might be the case, but I think not. Those of us who have met Todd know that as long as him and Mark Horn aren't working a grill together, he is one of the most got it together guys you'll ever meet.

This is a great story in that 2 service areas are featured. First MYCO. They've stood by their product and vowed to do what is necessary to make it right for a customer who spent a lot of money in a purchase. Second is Entec. Here is a company that said hey, this customer needs help now. No waiting 3 days for the scheduled work they already probably had. The owner crawled under the trailer and said lets get this thing fixed so it could be taken where the parent company could make necessary repairs.

For those of you who have this type of trailer under your 22 Classic, no disrespect intended, but what are you thinking? Call Myco, talk to the man listed in this post and have the trailer fixed correctly. Any mileage that might be involved is better than laying a $20,000 to $60,000 boat that you've wanted all your life down on a road between home and your destination. Did the hull change? I'm no expert, but I really don't think so other than the rocker hulls of the BlackHawk boats. Who knows, maybe it is a simple bow ring move that has changed causing different loads on the trailer. The important point is that they have gone to the factory, measured again and through the accident of an already customer, have found that they need to make changes to their design. That is a Pro-active approch that could save their company major dollars in a lawsuit. Things like that have been known to put companies out of business. Even a company as big as Myco. I'm sure if you have bolts loosening, they'll want that issue addressed also. Call them and get your trailer fixed correctly.

[Ed Donnelly]

RTSE; I think someone is trying to tell you that your Donzi wants to stay in Canada, and will do anything to accomplish this.
Your fastest way back to the States is through Niagra Falls. You will be back in the good old U.S.of A. 4 hrs sooner that going through Windsor...Ed

[boldts]

Holly cow.....There is definately some wierd karma going on with this roadtrip...Man Todd, you've got those guys working their butts off to make sure your satisfied....If I worked at a marina and saw a tornado coming? The last thing on my mind would be to get a US guy's boat to a safer location. I mean we're talking minutes to do this not hours and to leave your own countrymen's boats in the wake of a tornado?

Maybe someones trying to tell you to get back into a Poker Run edition like a 27ZR or better yet, the 38ZR. :) Glad to hear again you've been spared and everyone including the RT SE is in great shape. BTW, can I touch you before they draw the lottery numbers tonight here in OH?

[Trueser]

Todd,

wow... I would hit the nearest casino if I were you.

[DonCig]

Todd, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I am compelled!

A trailer that nice needs to be hauling a 525SC, or 500SC or 800SC.
A plain old HP500 looks like you have denim seat covers on your seats protecting the vinyl.

I love this game of yearly enhancements to our boats!! LOL

Don is back from China.

[need for speed]

i took my trailer to myco... all they did was add a shim under the center bunk .. just a little shim as thick as a dime.one on each bunk so 2.. i really dont think if its going to give out this is going to stop it. :bonk: but what do i know.. they did not weld or add any metal .
and to solve the floating problem they added 3 short galv weights on each side rail.. i am sure rust will start running out of the bolt holes here in a few weeks. grrr.. i did n;t get any ( extra support in the nose or heavier band supports on all weld areas)
guess i need to go on a road trip and find out...

[undertaker]

need, why did they add the shimes & were did they add the shime on the center bunk (front,middle,back:confused: :confused: ) Just curious.... :)


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[need for speed]

They put the shim under the bunk.. They said the center bunks where set a little too low in the keel and it was adding to much weight to the front cross member.. so the second cross member back from the front is where they put the shims .. But very small a flat piece of rubber .. The bunks always touched the boat before anyways I thought they should have added some metal like they did yours. :eek!: really it only took them 5 min I could have done that at home. I thought they would do more.

[undertaker]

OK thanks...good luck with everything..


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[need for speed]

what do you think ... think it will be ok?