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boatnut
07-15-2006, 10:04 AM
Many moons ago I shared some data and handling characteristics resulting from using a Bravo 1 28" pitch on my 22. I have (finally) now tested with a Turbo 1 23" and here is the comparison.
Handling: the boat porpoised at all but higher speeds with the Bravo 1 28 and needed tabs down below 45mph. With the Turbo 23" the handling is better (less porpoise) and I can run below 45mph without tabs but the slightest wave action will cause porpoise -- the Turbo didn't help as much as I hoped but based on all of your input I think it is probably the best prop for handling on this hull. The bottom of my boat seems to be straight but acts like it has some rocker ---it surely doesn't have the hook that my 18 has.
Speeds: The engine is the 1997 Gen VI 7.4L rated at 300hp (carb), suggested to be run in the 4200-4600 range. Bravo 1 1.5 ratio. (Does anyone know when the rev-limiter is supposed to kick in on this engine?). It seems pretty obvious that my tach must be inaccurate. I show the tach reading and (90%) of tach reading but the error is probably more at full rpm and not linear. Next goal is to check or change the tach. Speeds are GPS. Approx 1/2 tank fuel, 2 people, tabs up.
RPM, (90% RPM), Bravo 28, Turbo 23, Trim
3000, (2700), 37.8, 30, in
3500, (3150), 45, 37, in
4000, (3600), 54.5, 45.5, yes
4400, (3960), 60.4(wot), n/a, yes
4500, (4050), n/a, 51.5, yes
5000, (4500), n/a, 57, yes
5400, (4860), n/a, 62(wot) yes
At this point my plan is to stay with the Turbo 23, change or correct the tach, and try to come up with a tab usage that makes this gorgous boat settle down a little (while hanging on to the 62 mph which I think is about all that can be expected from 300 hp). Knowing I am probably going to upset most of you, I think the ideal engine for this hull is about a 350hp small block. I think there are better hull designs for going over 70 with improved stability(here come the missles). Thanks for your ongoing feedback, Ed

Ed Donnelly
07-15-2006, 12:00 PM
Boatnut, you are right there are better hulls. Tunnels,14 degree,ets. etc.
But, where is the fun, and challenge, in that?????...Ed

boatnut
07-15-2006, 08:52 PM
Boatnut, you are right there are better hulls. Tunnels,14 degree,ets. etc.
But, where is the fun, and challenge, in that?????...Ed

Yeah Ed, but I meant some of the later designed deep-vee's including those with steps, pads etc. Fountains, later Donzi's, plus others --- in my opinion the 7' beam 18 is a good stable ride until about 60, and the 22 until about 70 or so and then you are hanging out there. Although, I (through my small knot hole of vision) have never seen or heard of one going over -- how many have known of Donzi's really wiping out at speed?? Ed

LKSD
07-16-2006, 09:06 AM
. Speeds are GPS. Approx 1/2 tank fuel, 2 people, tabs up.
RPM, (90% RPM), Bravo 28, Turbo 23, Trim
3000, (2700), 37.8, 30, in
3500, (3150), 45, 37, in
4000, (3600), 54.5, 45.5, yes
4400, (3960), 60.4(wot), n/a, yes
4500, (4050), n/a, 51.5, yes
5000, (4500), n/a, 57, yes
5400, (4860), n/a, 62(wot) yes
Ed

Just curious is the B 28 correct or a typo?? Thats quite a pitch difference between the 2 props... Jamie / Lakeside

boatnut
07-16-2006, 03:57 PM
Bravo 1 4 blade 28" is correct. There is 1000 rpm difference (wot) between the 28" and the 23" so that seems logical --- what doesn't seem logical is that my 300HP stock engine would turn the 28" prop at 4400 rpm or the 23" at 5400 (1.5 drive ratio) so the tach is suspect. The previous owner wanted to get the engine in the range that it is supposed to be in (4200 to 4600) so he went to a 28" prop, I think he should have changed/adjusted the tach. Ed

LKSD
07-16-2006, 04:49 PM
Oh.. I would confirm the tach first.. If you were running a 28p 4 blade @ 4400 thats the equivlent to a 30p 3 blade. so to go from that to a 3 blade 23p is technically a huge jump. A 28 b1 is a huge blade to swing on that stock set up & try to get the proper rpm.. But If you were properly running a 28/4 then the 23/3 is probably technically spinning too fast.. 44-4600 rpm is the correct average rpm for your engine.. My guess is though if the your engine is stock & drive ratio is 1.50 then a 23 or 25p 3 blade will probably run the best for you & probably be best suited to your boat.. Just my 2 cents.. :) I would be curious as to what you find with your tach.. :) Jamie / Lakeside