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Marlin275
01-09-2006, 09:00 AM
Saw this great one at the New York Boat Show yesterday.
Heard some good Donzi comments when I was catching the view.
$ 70,072. list for this pup.

RickSE
01-09-2006, 09:59 AM
I like the 22GT name and layout but why call it a Shelby? That boat and motor combination (assuming it's a 496 Merc) has nothing to do with Ford or Carroll Shelby, other then the stripes and permission to use the Shelby name. Calling it a Shelby would have been a lot cooler if it had a custom motor, maybe one prepped by Shelby; at least have Carroll do something on the boat. You know look at the Holman-Moody boats, they had H-M motors.

To me it's like a Hummer-2. They call it a Hummer but it's really just a Tahoe with cosmetic bling-bling.

They should have just stuck with the name "22GT", which has more connection to the past.

Craig S
01-09-2006, 10:53 AM
I like the 22GT name and layout but why call it a Shelby? That boat and motor combination, assuming it's a 496 Merc., has nothing to do with Ford or Carroll Shelby, other then the stripes and permission to use the Shelby name. Calling it a Shelby would have been a lot cooler if it had a custom motor, maybe one prepped by Shelby; at least have Carroll do something on the boat. You know look at the Holman-Moody boats, they had H-M motors.
To me it's like a Hummer-2. They call it a Hummer but it's really just a Tahoe with cosmetic bling-bling.
They should have just stuck with the name "22GT", which has more connection to the past.

Ditto! Shelby is really watering down his name by selling it to things that aren't related. This doesn't do either party anygood, imho.

BUT, GEEZ THE DARK BLUE/WHITE LEMANS STRIPES LOOK GORGEOUS!!!

AC18Classic
01-09-2006, 11:22 AM
No big difference from the regular 22 - only the paint / hatch scoops.

mattyboy
01-09-2006, 11:25 AM
and windshield and seats and vents

Shanghied Again
01-09-2006, 01:35 PM
The 22 Shelby is a licenced name, There will be special plates made for the boat and some engine dressings. The big difference between the GT and The Shelby are. Functional hood scoop, metallic paint and shelby stripe compination. Carol Shelby is going hand and hand with Donzi and at Miami you will see a Mustang Shelby GT and the 22 Shelby on display. The only reason you don't see a Ford Motor is because Ford does not produce a Marine engine anymore. This was a long process for Shelby and Donzi but when you have a Classic name like Donzi and Carol Shelby the fit is perfect. The advertising that you will be seeing for this boat is going to shock you. I feel Donzi not only went in the right direction the boat is an eye catcher.

mattyboy
01-09-2006, 01:53 PM
Frank, looking forward to seeing the shelby 22 and you at the AC boat show
I would have played up on the Shelby viper connection and dropped an Ilmor v10 in that bad boy :yes: they've been putting them in the bigger boats why not a 22 , looks just like the hardtop viper with the blue and white stripes or the cobra take your pick ;)

Carl C
01-09-2006, 02:07 PM
and windshield and seats and vents And carbon fiber gauges. I got almost 10 G off list on my '05 22C. If that holds true here then you could pick this boat up for 60 grand. that's not bad for a quality boat these days.:crossfing

Shanghied Again
01-09-2006, 02:18 PM
Viper??????? :) As the NY Lotto says: Hey You will never know!

roadtrip se
01-09-2006, 04:22 PM
I like the car, but the stripes do not make the car. The car makes the car.
As a matter of fact, the convertible version won't have stripes, but there will be no doubt it's a Shelby without them.

A Shelby Classic. Not sure on this one.

joseph m. hahnl
01-09-2006, 05:50 PM
I like the 22GT name and layout but why call it a Shelby? That boat and motor combination (assuming it's a 496 Merc) has nothing to do with Ford or Carroll Shelby, .

Now hold on there; Fords are not the only Shelbys. Chrysler made them also.
http://www.xmission.com/~dempsey/shelby/sheldodg.htm

joe

Tony
01-09-2006, 08:17 PM
Why spend $70k on this boat when, for another measly $257k, you can have the new silver Donzi 43ZR...featured on p.75 of the February Powerboat magazine?

Lenny
01-09-2006, 08:21 PM
...and we all owe Steve Adelson and RickSE and Rick's dad for this "special looking" boat after fighting about its construction over a year ago.
Nice idea Steve :yes: You were waayy ahead of them on this one.
http://www.donzi.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=11107&d=1114492811

roadtrip se
01-09-2006, 11:28 PM
I think we know it is a Shelby...

Donzi Classic with stripes, maybe..

Dodge Omni, pretender..

Enjoy MP..

Dr. Dan
01-10-2006, 06:02 AM
:spongebob Does anyone "that is actually knowledgeable of Donzi's long range design plans" know if they will ever change the actual mold to include a "formed in Pod or Throttle Base. It seems very after market looking to have such a high profile departure in the 22 Classic, and not go the extra effort to have a preformed area like the larger ZR's,ZX's or whatever?

I think it's much better than the single Throttle "Teleflex or Merc based" assemblies... but I am always amazed that they hit it outta the Park with the 35 and 38 ZXR's but would leave something like this.

Just curious.... I agree with Lenny, alot of credit has to go to those Customers and Clients that help to push the Design Envelope ... it keeps things fresh.

Doc :beer:

Shanghied Again
01-10-2006, 06:57 AM
What Donzi is trying to do is hit the Market with the 22 Classic, Donzi can sell there boats to people that love and desire there boats but they are missing a big whole to the general public. What the Shelby will do is just that open the eyes to a whole different market: Example: Resorts Casino is giving away a Shelby 22 Classic that is in being put on there floor for the boat show and given away that Saturday night, There is a billboard coming down AC expressway and publishings of this in some local magazines. This will be the first time you will see a Performance Boat on a Casino floor. And yes the future of Donzi is looking that much greater enclosed is a picture of the new 26 ZR coming this spring and more to follow, The 26 ZR is going to go be a great priced boat with a 496, 496HO or a 525 estimated speed should be about 70mph with a 496.

AC18Classic
01-10-2006, 09:16 AM
'trip,
Your getting on my one last nerve.... I have a new desktop AGAIN damnitt ;) ;)
Courtesy of Sharkey :) :)

It's about time Donzi put some supportive seats in the classics instead of those round no support seats. Also a great move on putting the zero effort shifters. Donzi should include the GT seats and the shifters in all the classics.

zimm17
01-10-2006, 09:25 AM
Blue seats?:bonk: Ouch hot! How are you supposed to sit in them? I bet the dark blue deck is too hot for bare feet in the Florida sun too. I'll stick to my white gel coat.

Now, as for that hood scoop....:hyper: I want one!

tmdog
01-10-2006, 09:35 AM
Hatch scoop like this?

Marlin275
01-10-2006, 10:14 AM
RETRO is the hottest thing for us boomers.
It's all coming back to us now!
Check this out.
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/naias_2006/0601_chevrolet_camaro_concept/

. . . and Chrysler knows the market too . .
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/naias_2006/0601_dodge_challenger_concept/

AC18Classic
01-10-2006, 10:32 AM
We have to wait until 2009?

RickSE
01-10-2006, 10:35 AM
I would have played up on the Shelby viper connection and dropped an Ilmor v10 in that bad boy

Now that makes sense and would be unique, but how much would it cost?

Donzi needs to be careful on the pricing of this boat. I think they learned a lesson on the $90K 22SE and seemed to understand when they came out with the reasonably priced line of 40th Edition boats and the 22-Aronow, $50-$60K. If they get the price too high the general public will not buy, no mater what goodies you put into the boat.

Shanghied Again
01-10-2006, 02:36 PM
Ok here are some better pictures,take note of the new engine hatch.. The price is not as high as you think remember all boats went up almost 9% in 2006 because of fiberglass and vinyl being so high due to oil prices..

Shanghied Again
01-10-2006, 02:40 PM
Some More

Dr. Dan
01-10-2006, 02:46 PM
:biggrin.: Very Cool Frank, I like the Broader Profile Hatch, I assume that is functionally vented? What is the price range this Model is listing for?

Thanks For the Photos!

Doc :bonk:

RickSE
01-10-2006, 03:15 PM
Why not offer 22's with paint and striping to match your muscle car. Maybe even some brand correct hatch scoops. Donzi is doing enough custom boats that it would be easy.

GM matches would be an "SS" and have Z-28, Hockey or Bumble Bee stripes.

Ford matches already with the GT Shelby.

Mopar matches with Bumble Bee or AAR striping, flat black hatches and of course those crazy colors.

I'd order an all black SS with a white Bumble Bee stripe around the rear deck and hull and a HP525.

Thanks for the pic's Frank.

Marlin275
01-10-2006, 05:14 PM
Last of the best photos I got . . .
http://www.donzi.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=17173&stc=1&d=1136935032

mattyboy
01-10-2006, 06:58 PM
dibs, i'm winning that 22 at the resorts ;)

boxy
01-11-2006, 08:16 AM
Why spend $70k on this boat when, for another measly $257k, you can have the new silver Donzi 43ZR...featured on p.75 of the February Powerboat magazine?

Too late Tony, that 43ZR is on it's way to Cali...... :D

Frank I'll call you in the next couple of days to talk about AC.

Craig S
01-11-2006, 08:48 AM
QUOTE=RickSE] Maybe even some brand correct hatch scoops..[/QUOTE]
That scoop has a very similar profile to a Boss 9. Interesting, as it is different from other scoops.
http://www.mustang-mania.com/telecharger/fonds/pict/69BOSS429.jpg

mattyboy
01-11-2006, 01:43 PM
we have be bandying the term "paint" around with this boat is the hull paint or gel???

Ranman
01-11-2006, 01:49 PM
From what I understand all of the new classics are paint over white gel, but for 70 g's it should be all gel IMO. Let's see what Frank says...

Greg K
01-11-2006, 02:30 PM
I say this is paint on the majority of this one...the dash is painted, but if you look at some pics already posted...you see a lighter blue under the rear seat and under the dash, looking at the foot areas and ski stow area.
How about some more pics or sketches of the new 26.. :lookaroun

Shanghied Again
01-11-2006, 02:54 PM
Its Official the 22 Shelby is now at Resorts Atlantic City, The drawing is Feb 4th, Satrurday night She is loaded with a Loadmaster trailer, Gray Silver stripes.
http://www.resortsac.com/casino-promotions.cfm

gold-n-rod
01-11-2006, 05:22 PM
Its Official the 22 Shelby is now at Resorts Atlantic City, The drawing is Feb 4th, Satrurday night She is loaded with a Loadmaster trailer, Gray Silver stripes.
http://www.resortsac.com/casino-promotions.cfm

Beware, clicking that casino link puts spyware/adware on your computer.
:uzi: spyware/adware

Shanghied Again
01-12-2006, 10:06 AM
Enclosed is the boat that Resorts is giving away:

mattyboy
01-12-2006, 10:35 AM
Frank ,
thanks for posting pics of my soon to be new boat

;)

Rootsy
01-12-2006, 10:52 AM
hmmm are those SS D O N Z I letters on the side of the boat? :confused:

MOP
01-12-2006, 11:02 AM
Anyone notice the brocure picture has Rick's scoop!

RickSE
01-12-2006, 01:36 PM
The boat in the picture is the GT that Donzi had at the Dealer Meeting which had the Aronow/X-22/Early GT style scoop. So does the boat on the casino floor have the old scoop or new scoop, looks like new scoop? The Gray dealer meeting boat should be the #1 boat or is this boat now a bastard since the the 22-GT Shelby was introduced after it was build.

Greg K
01-13-2006, 10:00 AM
Matty,
Here's another one of your next boat...
http://www.donzimarine.com/DonziWebsite/Working%20Files/TheBoats/22GT.jpg

Greg K
01-13-2006, 10:02 AM
The pic of the boat I posted is the GT used in the ad...notice the one on display in the casino has the shelby scoop.


Anyone notice the brocure picture has Rick's scoop!

gold-n-rod
01-13-2006, 10:33 AM
Matty,
Here's another one of your next boat...
http://www.donzimarine.com/DonziWebsite/Working%20Files/TheBoats/22GT.jpg

Does anyone else notice how uncomfortable it looks to reach up so high to operate the throttle?

I like the looks of the twin stick high performance controls, but they appear to be mounted way too high on the gunwhale, especially given that one uses it (and the trim controls) so continiously during operation.

Or is it just me?

Greg K
01-13-2006, 12:53 PM
Like this...
http://www.americancarfans.com/news/2050323.001/2050323.001.Mini3L.jpg
http://www.americancarfans.com/news/2050323.001/2050323.001.Mini5L.jpg

joseph m. hahnl
01-13-2006, 03:06 PM
With All do respect: F the Shelby 22, I'll Take the GT 40 please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


joe

gold-n-rod
01-13-2006, 04:47 PM
Can you put a trailer hitch on a GT40?? I saw one in the Grove today that matched that boat perfectly.. THAT would be awesome!!
DVPRBD :D

It appears from the pics that the dual center-mounted exhaust tips pose a bit of interference with the hitch. :bawling:

RickSE
01-13-2006, 06:02 PM
Heck with the GT40, buy a 500+ horse Z06 Vette and you still have $100K left over to buy a boat.

ITTLFLI
01-18-2006, 06:46 PM
Not the real shelby boat or car but looks cool;)

MOP
01-18-2006, 07:16 PM
Not the real shelby boat or car but looks cool;)


Minxman from Conn/1K has a dark blue one with a 428 also a rep but none the less a very cool car.

Phil

knots2u
01-20-2006, 12:17 AM
Does anyone else notice how uncomfortable it looks to reach up so high to operate the throttle?
I like the looks of the twin stick high performance controls, but they appear to be mounted way too high on the gunwhale, especially given that one uses it (and the trim controls) so continiously during operation.
Or is it just me?
I'm with you Randy. The interior shots show the bucket seats on the floor, although maybe the driver in the photo is really short! :biggrin:


My $70k is going here (http://www.virginia.edu/aboutuva.html).

thriller
01-20-2006, 01:06 AM
Can you put a trailer hitch on a GT40?? I saw one in the Grove today that matched that boat perfectly.. THAT would be awesome!!
DVPRBD :D

I measured mine and I'm sure it's do-able?:wink:

Barry Phillips
01-20-2006, 12:39 PM
I applaud Donzi for this effort and I think applying the Shelby name to the Classic 22 is marriage made in heaven as well as great marketing tool for Donzi. With that said the boat shown at the NYC show was not complete, but a more like a prototype and as with all prototypes there are rough edges. Shelby has licensed his name to a lot of crap over the years, but the GT 22 is not the case. I also think the a 26’ sit-down low profile ZR will give Donzi Classic lovers something to move up to for reasonable price.

The boat displayed at the NYC boat show did have rough edges like a weird 2 tone blue interior that did not quite work. The metallic blue hull color looked super, but did not quite work with the blue Kevlar material used in the interior. The seats were not on pedestals but wood blocks, the rear seat back was attached to the bulkhead, please go back to the snaps. The pull up cleats are poorly located the stern ones being to far back for short docks and the bow cleat is just to far forward and impossible to reach from a dock or without walking on the deck. I installed 4” Slimlines a mid-ships in the same location as the SE and have proven to very practical for lines and fenders and look great. The Carbon Fiber Monster gauges also look great but use platinum bezels to match the platinum MOMO steering wheel. Bring back the lifting rings they are also great for dock tie up and add a Classic touch to the theme. Frank had great thoughts also like a reflective surface inside the hatch with the Shelby logo etched into it, as well as on the fairing sidepieces, which are planned. Please lose the white plastic cup holders, they look really cheep in a limited edition boat that cost $70+, again platinum would work great. How about the Shelby snake on the gauge faces? I read on this post a suggestion that the a provision should be molded in to liner to mount the Zero Effort controls, this would not be practical on a limited production run like the GT but could the Zero Effort Controls standard on every 22 Classic? At last the new functional air intake is just plain trick, but bring back the 2 latches used on the AE 22. Frank also mentioned that Shelby is working with Donzi on color combinations, like white on read and silver on black etc.

As for power, the 496HO as the base motor is fine, although we are speed freaks on this site, 425hp is generous for a hull as light as the 22 classic, but the 525 can and should be offered as an option, and would increase the performance factor of a Shelby badged 22. The go fast hardware in the 22 SE was really cool but resulted in a 22’ boat which listed for 90 K, of which only 3 or 4 were sold.

Just my thoughts,
BP

Craig S
01-20-2006, 01:19 PM
How about the Shelby snake on the gauge faces? BP

Doesn't Ford Motor own the "snake" and the word "Cobra?" Probably in the 1967 or 1968 model year when Ford took everything in-house. I am really surprised they don't own the name "Shelby."

RickSE
01-20-2006, 01:28 PM
Barry,
The rear seat in the Aronow boat was installed the same way, top piece being permanently fixed. I agree it sucks. Front seats also did not swivel, front to back sliders only.

You bring up some good points and I certainly hope Donzi is listening.

Although the 525 would be way cool you have to remember that a 525 package will add $20-30K to the price of any boat no mater what you do.

mattyboy
01-20-2006, 01:37 PM
the throttle position only looks uncomfortable at cruising speeds, WOT not a problem :p
when I win it the first think I'll do is scrap the 496 and go for an ilmor than tow it with a charcoal grey and silver stripe dodge srt 10 ;)

19donziz29
01-23-2006, 02:15 PM
Here are a couple of pictures that I took at the Chicago Boat show the other week.

Matt

DONZI
01-24-2006, 08:14 PM
Not the real shelby boat or car but looks cool;)
Then and now.( Now pic. below)
It seems that pic. must have caught someones attention along the line. I seem to remember it being posted quite awhile ago.

boxy
01-24-2006, 08:31 PM
Isn't that the Ilmor 625/Teague 38ZR ......
Maybe it could use 90% of the speedo. :D No different than the 100 mph gps speedo's on the new 22's.

Oh wait, maybe the MadBeagle was talking about the 112 tattletale :D :D

ChromeGorilla
01-25-2006, 05:11 AM
but the 525 can and should be offered as an option


Ummmm........there's already one out there.....:yes:

mattyboy
01-25-2006, 05:50 AM
No, look at the 22 dash closely my blind canuck friend.... :) :)
Dont even get me going on the 8k tach....
Oh yeah, and why the hell does the steering wheel have a ZX logo in the center of it? Come on Donzi, you can buy the CORRECT centers on Ebay for 5 bucks....
OK, I'm going to stop looking at the pictures now...
OMMMMMMMMMM
OMMMMMMMMMMMMM
OMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

someone needs a lil decafe and some sun, perhaps you can shed more light on the picture like what to you think the guy in the glasses is thinking, or perhaps why the 2 guys walking in the aisle are so close together or maybe what the lady in the white shirt had for breakfast ;) :p

boxy
01-25-2006, 10:04 AM
No, look at the 22 dash closely my blind canuck friend.... :) :)
Dont even get me going on the 8k tach....
Oh yeah, and why the hell does the steering wheel have a ZX logo in the center of it? Come on Donzi, you can buy the CORRECT centers on Ebay for 5 bucks....
OK, I'm going to stop looking at the pictures now...
OMMMMMMMMMM
OMMMMMMMMMMMMM
OMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Damn I didn't even look at the 22, I thought we were talking about the 38. The 100mph Speedo I was talking about was Undertaker's 22..... :D

Cuda
01-25-2006, 10:35 AM
I'll take one with all it's percieved warts, even though I don't like scoops or fairings on a 22.

Rootsy
01-25-2006, 11:14 AM
hey poodle... i think you need one of these.. with all of the very optomistic gauges... then ya just need to put those gauges to use at full capacity :D

gcarter
01-25-2006, 11:44 AM
I don't have any problem with gauges with large (optomistic) scales. I think I have some on my Minx!
It's no different than cars w/180 MPH (300 KPH) speedos when they're electronically limited to 150 or less.
I think it's more important to be accurate than how high the scale is.

Shanghied Again
01-26-2006, 09:11 AM
The logo in the steering wheel is not the ZX emblem, its the new Donzi logo that looks like this.

sellsman11
01-26-2006, 02:59 PM
I was thinking the same thing Frank. Now that an expert has said it, I know its true.