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gold-n-rod
10-24-2005, 05:41 PM
eBay ads are often full of more bull**** than the local barnyard, but this one is a real puzzler:

"Priced well below the cost of a new boat, this 22’ Donzi has the image, the sound, and the appeal that you want from a Donzi. The only difference is the price, a $130,000.00 savings. "

My calculator doesn't quite explain it??????????????????

Maybe you can make the math work:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/22-Donzi-Time-Capsule-from-1982_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ31271QQitemZ458482 8746QQrdZ1

:eek:
Ed Donnelly
10-24-2005, 05:58 PM
Randy; Very easy to explain. Obviously, you have never experienced the thrill of time travel. The cost to go back to 1982, is as he stated $130,000

Now, if you were to go back to pick up a 78 Donzi, the cost goes up to $185,000.

You don't want to know what it would cost to go back to 1964.

Hope this clairfies everything for you......Space Warp Ed
gold-n-rod
10-24-2005, 06:10 PM
Randy; Very easy to explain. Obviously, you have never experienced the thrill of time travel. The cost to go back to 1982, is as he stated $130,000

Now, if you were to go back to pick up a 78 Donzi, the cost goes up to $185,000.

You don't want to know what it would cost to go back to 1964.

Hope this clairfies everything for you......Space Warp Ed

Thanks for clearing that up, Ed. I KNEW there was a logical explanation. Truthfully, I thought it had something to do with the Canadian exchange rate, but your explanation makes more sense!!!!!!!!!!!!

Funny thing is, based on the money that mega-rich guys are paying to go into space, there's bound to be guys out there with the scratch to pay gazillions to go back to 1964 and take factory possession of a 1964 Sweet 16. Would I IF I had the $$ and the opportunity? Hell yes!!!!!

Thanks for the reply.
Trueser
10-24-2005, 07:09 PM
Time travel sure did a number on the keel ?
Carl C
10-24-2005, 07:40 PM
That is some bull****. And the seller even kept the good motor and made that sound like a good thing!:bonk:
boxy
10-24-2005, 07:58 PM
Well here's his answer to my rather polite question.....

Q: The boat looks great, but could you clarify your math a little bit..... ie: the $130,000 savings. Thanks Steve
Oct-24-05
A: Hi Steve, Thank you for your interest. Here's some clarity on the math. Simply put, this is a 1982, fresh water use only, 22' Donzi, not a new 22' Donzi; which would cost roughly $130,000 more than this one, or so. Point being, this boat looks & runs great for its age, hence the [Time Capsule from 1982] comment. KC

I'll try again...
gold-n-rod
10-24-2005, 08:15 PM
Well here's his answer to my rather polite question.....

Q: The boat looks great, but could you clarify your math a little bit..... ie: the $130,000 savings. Thanks Steve
Oct-24-05
A: Hi Steve, Thank you for your interest. Here's some clarity on the math. Simply put, this is a 1982, fresh water use only, 22' Donzi, not a new 22' Donzi; which would cost roughly $130,000 more than this one, or so. Point being, this boat looks & runs great for its age, hence the [Time Capsule from 1982] comment. KC

I'll try again...

I read your question and his answer with great interest, Steve. I'm still stumped. Maybe he figures that over the period of 24 years that one would have bought 4 new Donzi 22's.

Either that or a new Classic 22 is going for $150K these days in his neck of the woods. :shocking: :shocking: :shocking:
gold-n-rod
10-24-2005, 08:18 PM
PS: Don't get me wrong, it's a beautiful boat, especially for an '82.

It's the bull**** that wrong, especially since Boxy tried to set it straight. Still, the guy says, "That's my story and I'm stickin' to it."
Donzigo
10-24-2005, 10:19 PM
Seems to be that a scoop was added, thus negating the true value of the "time capsule machine"........looks like the price just went down by $120,000................. Oh gee, and I was just about to make a bid.
Rootsy
10-25-2005, 06:26 AM
reckon my comments to the gent will stir the bees nest a bit.. but i highly doubt he'll post my question :D
mattyboy
10-25-2005, 10:40 AM
the answer is simple
take the difference in cost of a new 22 in the 80's and a new 22 today in 1980's dollars factor in inflation and the week American dollar in todays world economy and there you go ! or he could have slipped and hit his head in the shower
harbormaster
10-25-2005, 11:05 AM
You folks really need to listen to yourselves. It does not matter what he thinks his boat is worth. He is still a donzi boat owner who really likes his boat.
boxy
10-25-2005, 11:08 AM
Scot he's not saying he loves his boat, and it's worth a pile of money to him.....
He is saying you can buy his boat and save #130,000 ....

I think there is a big difference.
Craig S
10-25-2005, 12:27 PM
He is still a donzi boat owner who really likes his boat.

Can't like it too much...its on ebay!
harbormaster
10-25-2005, 09:17 PM
maybe i am just pissed because I did not think of that line when I was selling my 18....
Magicallbill
10-26-2005, 12:57 AM
He's in the same spaceship that the dealership in Texas is that wants $56000.00 for the yellow 16 on the showroom floor....
Rootsy
10-26-2005, 07:00 AM
donzi owner or not... i call it TRUTH in advertising and since WE know what they are worth, new or used... WE have a duty as good folk to see that the uninformed whom may be interested in this "time capsule" do not get conned...

i did receive a reply to my question to him... stating it has cause dhim to do some more investigation???? but alas i see that add still has not been revised...
Donzigo
10-26-2005, 07:55 AM
Don't I rememebr a guy who had a 1986 22' Donzi for sale a while back for $47,000. Maybe these two guys are drinking coffee from the same Dunkin Donuts in the morning. I can see em sitting there taking loud, bragging about there expensive boats to the other patrons...............Gotta love it. Won't we all be surprised when the Ebay post reads.........."SOLD". They say there's a rear-end for every seat made.
pmreed
10-26-2005, 09:23 AM
He's added the fact that a new Donzi doesn't cost $140,000, with a link to the Donzi website. Reading between the lines, it sounds like his reserve is 10K.

Phil
Carl C
10-26-2005, 09:34 AM
The seller answered my question and I directed him to this thread. I believe he honestly thought these boats were much more expensive.
boxy
10-26-2005, 09:51 AM
The seller answered my question and I directed him to this thread. I believe he honestly thought these boats were much more expensive.

I think you are right Carl, he very pleasantly responded to my 2 questions.
If priced right, this 22 could be a great deal for someone.
Mr X
10-26-2005, 09:57 AM
Maybe the storage compartment has $100K in cash in it??
Rootsy
10-26-2005, 10:08 AM
Maybe the storage compartment has $100K in cash in it??

well in florida.. it might be something "other" than cash :rlol:
joseph m. hahnl
10-26-2005, 07:46 PM
The seller answered my question and I directed him to this thread. I believe he honestly thought these boats were much more expensive.



YES YES YES. he thought they where more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DAULEY
10-27-2005, 08:06 AM
his reserve is12000
i talked to him for about a hour he realy thought a new one was about 145000 i told him he could get on for 47000 said he bought this boat on ebay in june it came from mich from original owner and the owner changed engine before he got it
looks clean
Rootsy
10-27-2005, 10:09 AM
i think this is the same boat i looked at that was for sale by me at Michigan Speedway for a short time and then moved back to the east coast of michigan... i spoke to the owner and he was looking for 16K for the boat at that time with the 454 / 330... it ins't in BAD condition btu could use some TLC... I have a BUNCH of photos of it somewhere...
Donzi Rose
11-04-2005, 09:27 PM
We did go take a look at this boat here in florida. Love the color combo. He has reduced the price a bit to around 11500 with a mechanical guarantee. We are still considering it but not sure how many we can afford or handle right now. If anyone needs info on the boat we will be glad to tell you what we can. I would like to get some info on the reliability of the trs drive, mainly the transmissions.
He was a bit mistaken on the pricing. I think he went into a Donzi dealership in the 80's and priced one and maybe they told him what a 33 crossbow was and then he added for time. I remember going into a dealership in the mid to late 80's and the 18ft models were around 40k. Add 20 years of inflation and I can see him thinking they would have gone up quite a bit. Compare a 1982 corvette price to todays Corvette and they are about 4 to 5 times as much. Wow that means the 22 ft donzi of today is a steal compared to what it should be. Ok Donzi now you can send me something for the advertising. Tom & Rose 256-777-0844 or mishunaire@aol.com if anyone needs a condition report or has info on trs trans and outdrives.
joseph m. hahnl
11-06-2005, 05:59 PM
Compare a 1982 corvette price to todays Corvette and they are about 4 to 5 times as much.

Don't forget there are way more machanical components to a car .not to mention the 2006 Vette is completley different than a 1982 Vette .New tooling is very expensive. Where as the Donzi most likley uses the same tooling from when they first introduced the boat. Also these days auto factorys are becoming fully automated and the price of robotics is also expensive.
I also hear the cost of health insurance drives up the price of automobiles.

I definatly agree that if you took the same rate of inflation with the rest of things manufactured in the good old USA. a Donzi should and would be just that expensive.



joe