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GKricheldorf
08-11-2005, 12:01 PM
Planning on taking the boat down to the harbor on Friday to spend the weekend on the water. Do some boating, fishing, beer drinking and spend quality time with the wife. But after this weekenf i may need to get a second job after filling the boat up with 70 gallons of gas !!!! This crap is just plain crazy !! Oil companies are making billions and they say that the price of gas is because of all the regulations - My A$$ it is. Greedy Bastards !!

gcarter
08-11-2005, 12:50 PM
The oil companies buy and produce oil in a world wide market. In the case of Aramco ( Saudi Arabia and a few others) produce their own oil and sell it to other oil companies. When the world wide demand exceeds the world supply, the prices go up.
Then there's the fact WE don't have enough refining capacity because environmentalists fight construction of new ones.

Morgan's Cloud
08-11-2005, 01:59 PM
I feel your pain , but consider youself lucky you did'nt pay for 70 gallons at our price over here. It's holding steady at us$6.07 for one US gallon .
And no, we don't all earn $200,000 a year !

steve

Cuda
08-11-2005, 04:58 PM
Try 158 gallons of 93, with two bbc's eating it as fast as they can. :(

ChromeGorilla
08-11-2005, 05:04 PM
Try 158 gallons of 93, with two bbc's eating it as fast as they can. :(


Yea, when they run.... :wavey:

Cuda
08-11-2005, 05:07 PM
That's why I like to keep it a work in progress. So I don't have to burn the gas. :) But I did just spend another $250 in Starboard for it today. :(

GKricheldorf
08-11-2005, 05:08 PM
My BBC does fine on the 87. We don't even get 93 here in California, but we do get 91

cneidhart
08-11-2005, 05:16 PM
The oil companies buy and produce oil in a world wide market. In the case of Aramco ( Saudi Arabia and a few others) produce their own oil and sell it to other oil companies. When the world wide demand exceeds the world supply, the prices go up.
Then there's the fact WE don't have enough refining capacity because environmentalists fight construction of new ones.

True, but the weak dollar is having it's effect also. Look at gold prices. The dollar is not doing good.

I'm going to the lake this weekend. I have 3 friends that are bring there Skaters (32',36' and a 40') out. All of them have twins with at least 1,000 HP each. We plan on running to the dam, that is 64 miles away and back. That is going to be some fuel!http://www.donzi.net/ubb/eek.gif

gcarter
08-11-2005, 06:29 PM
True, but the weak dollar is having it's effect also. Look at gold prices. The dollar is not doing good.

Yep, the dollar may have as big effect as the scarcity of oil.

Ed Donnelly
08-11-2005, 06:49 PM
WOW; You guys and gals are catching up to our prices
$1.00 a litre X 4 equals 1 U.S.Gal. X 30% conversion = $5.20 Gal.....Ed

Moody Blu'
08-11-2005, 10:14 PM
I thought a dollar went to OPEC.

isnt OPEC finished? hmmmmmmm

gcarter
08-12-2005, 02:53 PM
I was reminded awhile ago, that the all time high for oil prices (In real dollars) was in 1979 after the Iranians seized the American Embassy in Tehran.
The price went to $40.00/ barrel, or $113.27 / barrel in todays dollars!!!
So quit your bitching and hang on, It will probably get worse before it gets better.
It seems that back in the '90's the price went up considerably and eventually caused a severe recession in the East. You may remember the price of gas went down to about $0.79/ gallon. And the price of oil went to about $9.00/ barrel.
The difference today is the growing economy in China and India. But even their rocketing economies may not be able to stand a lot of upward pressure.

MOP
08-12-2005, 03:08 PM
One of the reasons I decided to build mine for economy and cruseability. With varied running a lot pretty hard at 1K I was burning 2.86GPM, I hope that I added efficiancy upping the prop pitch andt will climb a little higher. THe prop has increased speed across the board but may be loading the engine a little more and using more fuel will be checking soon.

Phil

KFLB143
08-12-2005, 03:34 PM
Planning on taking the boat down to the harbor on Friday to spend the weekend on the water. Do some boating, fishing, beer drinking and spend quality time with the wife. But after this weekenf i may need to get a second job after filling the boat up with 70 gallons of gas !!!! This crap is just plain crazy !! Oil companies are making billions and they say that the price of gas is because of all the regulations - My A$$ it is. Greedy Bastards !!

Talk around here is that they can't legislate what we do for fun and what we drive. However, they can economically force us to do what they want.

See how its done.

If a measure of who is winning the war on terror is what gas prices are doing we are in big trouble.

LD

KFLB143
08-12-2005, 05:26 PM
Planning on taking the boat down to the harbor on Friday to spend the weekend on the water. Do some boating, fishing, beer drinking and spend quality time with the wife. But after this weekenf i may need to get a second job after filling the boat up with 70 gallons of gas !!!! This crap is just plain crazy !! Oil companies are making billions and they say that the price of gas is because of all the regulations - My A$$ it is. Greedy Bastards !!

Hey I started a thread about high revs vs running the torque curve.

The more i use the boat the more enjoyment i have. The way I try to maximize enjoyment is to keep the power plant as simple as possible. Using cubic inches vs tricks for power.

I prop the boat to run on the Torque curve. For instance while I may be able to put a prop on to run at 5250. I use a 4-blade stainless 24" that will run WOT at 4900. I sacrifice a few mph at the top end but I can cruise at nearly 50 and can get 2MPG at 2950 before the secondaries open. This results in a 35 MPH economy cruise speed.

Would like to go up to a 502 or 540 and do the same thing. Simple, reliable and relatively efficient for what it is. A Rocket.

LD:beer:

gcarter
08-12-2005, 06:09 PM
Talk around here is that they can't legislate what we do for fun and what we drive. However, they can economically force us to do what they want.

LD
I'm confused......who is "THEY"?
I'm not much into conspirecies. Starting last year, I've seen a number of posts with attitudes reflecting the price of fuel, for instance there was an irate board member cursing the President for not opening the strategic reserves. Well...Duhhh!! Isn't that why they're called "strategic"? They're for when there isn't any, not for when the price is high.
LD, I'm not picking on you, but who is doing this? Is it Big Brother trying to modify our lives? Who in this country has enough control over supply and demand of global petroleum prices to regulate what you do with your boat?
I don't like high prices any more than anyone else, but I want the market to work!!!!!
There are too many screwed up parts of the world that produce oil that are never able to realistically produce what is possible.
Venezuela has a new Socialist President, he is determined to turn Venezuela into one of the most inefficient forms of government there is.
Liberia has HUGE reserves but they've been in a civil war for years and oil production has nearly stopped.
We don't buy Iranian oil for good reason.
Iraq is currently unable to produce large amounts of oil exports.
China and India's demand has probably quintupled and their demand is only going to go up.
What to do?
We need access to more oil that we control. We also need more refining capacity. We need simpler regulations on the formulation of gasolines for different geographical locations.
Now ask yourself, who's keeping this from happening?
The answer is pretty simple, and those are the people we need to blame for our high prices.

ZBoater
08-13-2005, 12:19 AM
A Texas oilman is living in the White House and gas prices have risen? Wow. :rlol:

gcarter
08-13-2005, 06:37 AM
A Texas oilman is living in the White House and gas prices have risen? Wow. :rlol:
Is this like;
"A cheating, philandering, lying lawyer is in the White house and crime goes up"?
Or;
"A farmer is in the White House and the price of peanuts goes up"? :confused:

MOP
08-13-2005, 08:15 AM
I was in a conversation with some supposed in the know people at a political function, one said Texas U did testing on old abandoned thought to be dried up wells and found most to be back to capacity. I asked why they were not being used, he brought what George was saying that we no longer have the capacity to refine. Have no way of really knowing if the Texas U stuff is true, but would love to know.

What gets me is oil company profits, they were shown to be in the 45-50% range on TV just yesterday. With profit margins that high why are prices to the consumer so high? Why can't we fight for more and better refineries?

Phil

gcarter
08-13-2005, 08:58 AM
Phil, that's the real question.....
Who's stopping development in this country?
Who's fighting new refineries?
who's stopping any type of devopment in the name of any sort of critter or tree?
And it's not just oil, wasn't there a bunch of folks in Nantucket fighting a wind farm there?

MOP
08-14-2005, 08:44 AM
It is the old story that the voices of few impact the silent majority! There are way to many things that have gone wrong rather then right due to the tree huggers, the list is getting longer and longer!

Phil